The million dollar question: Will you go to Heaven? Here's a quick test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything, or used God's name in vain? Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery already with her in his heart." Have you looked with lust? Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those things God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in Hell. That's not God's will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for you. Jesus took your punishment upon Himself -"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Then He rose from the dead and defeated death. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in Jesus, and God will grant you everlasting life. Then read your Bible daily and obey it.

"[...] read your Bible daily" -- you've got to love these guys! Where do I sign up?

I am so going to hell 😊

FYI...

I remember back in '68, Dick Gregory ran a grassroots campaign using simulated dollar bills, labeled as "1 vote for Dick Gregory" with his face instead of Washington.

The Secret Service got upset when some students discovered that the vending machines of the day treated them as real dollars!

Hmm, the Great News Network apparently got their $1M bills from another organization called Living Waters.
The Living Waters web site now says, "Since the Secret Service seized our our Million Dollar Bill tracts in Texas, we have had a huge run on our supply in California."
... and "Our Million Dollar Bill tracts have been selling like hot cakes on a real cold day in Alaska. There is such a demand that we are not even able to take regular back-orders. Our printers are at present working around the clock, and should have a supply to us by Monday 19th June. However, for quantities of 10,000 or more, call [I'm deleting the number; let them do their own advertising]. We can have them sent to you directly from the printer (saving you about a week in delivery)."

So it would seem that being raided by the Treasury Department is very good for business.

By the way, the price is $5.00 for a pack of 100. Not a great price for simple-minded religious tracts, but pretty good for million-dollar bills.

Living Waters has another one, that might appeal more to MoH readers, called "The Wages of Sin." The front side says, "You Have Earned Your Wages." It's about time I got some acknowledgement. :cheese:

Whose picture is that on the front of the bill?
I can't read the name (if that's what it is) at the bottom.

It looks a lot like Grover Cleveland. But why him?

While we're debating theology...

I realize there's nothing in the Bible that specifically says "Thou shalt not make phony million-dollar bills," but shouldn't passing conterfeit money still be considered a sin?

I mean, lying and cheating and deception in general have traditionally been frowned upon.

Or do these folks subscribe to an end-justifies-the-means philosophy?

Big Gary, they are not trying to use these as currency, so no, it's not lying and cheating. Try to put your bias aside, these guys are getting screwed by the government over something stupid, if this were not a religious group I suspect people would be a bit more supportive of a group with a harmless gag being criminalized.

Oh god.. I *HATE* these things.. with a loathing, burning passion.. They're not the first to use the 'fake money' tract, and likely will not be the last.

There I was, several years ago.. I was utterly broke, homeless and hungry. Things were pretty bleak.

Then, one afternoon, I see a neatly-folded $20 in the bushes outside a small restraunt. I could not beleive my luck! This meant enough food that I could stave off starvation for another week, and possibly treat myself to a bit of Real Food for a change..

Then my heart fell a bit.. Surely someone would miss having dropped a twenty. Even as desperate as I was, it wouldn't be right. I looked around a little, trying to see if anyone was nearby who might have dropped it.. but nobody else was near, so my heart lifted again.. I walked towards the local grocery store with a spring in my step, visions of a decent dinner floating in my head..

Halfway there, I noticed the bill was a bit odd.. too stiff and slick.. I unfolded it, and my heart fell.. The tract was designed so that, when folded into quarters, it exactly resembled a $20, but when unfolded, chided the bearer for their greed and promised a 'treasure greater than money' at the local church.

I collapsed on a bench and nearly cried that someone would come up with something so *cruel*.. that in my hour of greatest need, I'd had that which I needed most dangled before me, then cruelly yanked away..

I've had one of these handed to me before, and was pretty offended by religious nuts disguising their ramblings as money and handing it to strangers. I folded it into a paper airplane later though, so no harm done.

Wow it's getting deep in here. This is why America is such a social/political boiler these days, because clearly anyone who disagrees with my group must be a crazy hatefilled lunatic, after all they don't agree with me so they can't be just normal people with a different opinion, they must be villianized.

How well I remember the part of the New Testament where Jesus says, "My followers shall rely on cheap deception to trick others into believing in me, for the end justifies the means."

If you believe in the words of Jesus, how are they going to be enhanced by pretend money? If you don't believe in Jesus, are you going to be convinced more easily by pretend money?

Maybe someone belives that just picking one of these up is enough to start an unbeliever on the road to salvation, and that's why they think a dirty trick is ok -- means to an end. But I doubt this means to an end is effective.

As for the counterfeiting charge, I think a simple "stop doing this" from the government should be sufficient, since there's no actual bill being copied.

I'm still waiting for somebody to explain why Grover Cleveland (or whoever that is) is on the million-dollar-bill tract.

At least it's not Willaim Henry Harrison ("I died in 30 days!")

The use of fake money is kinda goofy and stupid, but, since they didn't really try to pass it off as real money, it's probably harmless.

On the other hand, the government's fanatical insistence that nobody print anything remotely resembling US currency is quite disturbing. The reason, of course, is that our money is really just play money, backed with nothing and shamelessly manipulated by a federal reserve to serve the political needs of the moment. Naturally, they don't want the distinction between "real" money and "fake" money to be eroded, or else people might realize how worthless US currency really is.

If US currency is so worthless why don't you box all of yours up and ship it to me? I'll gladly take it off your hands. 😛

The Lord sometimes uses foolish things to get HIS WORD out to us foolish human beings. Many are attracted to money. A couple of you were affended because you picked up a tract like this and found it not to be money. And in fact it was more valuable than money. The tract is nothing, but it is the WORD of God on it that is worth more than anything. Most will be offended; that is why you self rightious people crucified Jesus to the cross. But some will take this tract, read the WORD on it and allow the HOLY SPIRIT to speak to their hearts, unlike many of you.

The WORD of God doesn't fill an empty stomach. I'll take fed and godless over Saved and starving every single time.

2 Corinthians 6:4-10, "But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings; By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things."

Thank you for proving my point, Guy. Any god that promotes or condones suffering isn't the god for me, and his followers who commit these malicious acts aren't any better.

1 Peter 5:10, "But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you."

These type of tracts are attention getters for people who may not even look at another gospel tract. Why are you getting angry over someone caring enough to try to get your attention so you can go to Heaven when you die? You should be happy that they care about you. The real sin would be to give you a real million dollars and then do nothing else so you would go to Hell when you die. You might not be physically hungry but your spirit would still be longing for something more. Most people don't even know that they are going to Hell when they die. That's why they need things to grab their attention. As for being so disapointed because you need the money to eat, there are Christian Missions that will give you three meals a day for free. If you are hungry, you can go to churches and missions and get food and clothes. These people aren't the only ones that give out money tracts. I got one by an organization called Make it Clear Ministries out of Florida and thought it was great.

Why do we get upset? Because they're preying on the needy to make themselves feel better. There is never enough food available for the people that need it.

"He may have starved to death, but at least I helped save his soul."

It makes me sick.

I did a search for the money tracts Earl wrote about that he got from Make It Clear Ministries. They look great! I found them at http://www.makeitclearnow.org They even sell them cheap on the news page on their site. Just thought I'd share in case anyone else is as curious as I am. I love little novelties like this.

I can see that Charybdis in Hell just doesn't get the point of tracts. They don't pass them out to feel good. They pass them out because they care. They don't prey on the needy but they use human nature to get their attention. People love money. When they see some, it gets their attention. Five hundred years from now you won't remember who gave you a meal but you will remember the person that told you how to go to Heaven. How you remember it will depend on what you do with the information. You will either be thanking God for that person in Heaven or you will be kicking yourself for eternity for rejecting God and His way to Heaven. God can make sure you get the informatin, but it is up to you as to how you react to it. I have been in many cities with missions that give away food to the hungry and I have never heard of any of them turning someone away because there wasn't enough food to go around.

Not getting into a theological argument here, there's another forum for that.

How about this. You're obviously a religious person who feels that you're going to Heaven when you die. Now, let's say you're destitute and starving to death, as is your family (who we'll also presume to have been 'saved'). You're out begging for money to feed your starving family before they die. Somebody hands you a religious tract instead of food or money.

How exactly is this beneficial to you? You're already saved. Aren't they preaching to the choir, so to speak? Are you going to feel better about your situation because somebody thinks re-teaching you the word of God is more important than helping you with your physical needs?

In other words, it's rather presumptious on their part to assume that you even need spiritual saving. Who are they to judge your soul? And they are doing it, don't even try to argue against that. They assume that you need spiritual guidance far more than you need physical help. They never talked to you, they never asked you any questions, they just assumed "Oh, there's a begger, he must be going to Hell. I'll save his soul for him."

Isn't it wrong to think this way?

I know, I know, you don't think that's what they're thinking at all. But, of course it is. Otherwise they'd ask you first. If they were a decent person who truly cared about your soul they'd get to know you and determine your need for salvation. But that's too personal. It's far easier to throw tracts out at people and hope some of them take. They, and by 'they' I mean you, can feel better about yourselves without having to actually do any work at all. After all, who wants to befriend a beggar? I'm too busy doing God's work.

Charybdis, My friend, your misunderstanding of God's ways has put bitterness in your heart. People in the Name of Jesus has given more charity than any organization in the world. I being a follower of Christ give to the poor until it hurts me financially. Why, because out of love. How much do you give? These tracts are just a way that God uses to reach many that we would not get a chance to talk to. I have invited many into my home, even the homeless and have helped those in need. And I am nothing compared to the millions who do this in the name of Jesus. But your bitterness has blinded your eyes because of this. Charybdis, you have not tasted even an ounce of what HELL really is. God so loves you so much, that Jesus suffered and died for your sins so that you will not. All you must do is accept HIM as your LORD and repent (turn away) from your sins. Then you will receive salvation from the pits of HELL. That is what these tracts are about.

You still haven't explained how preaching to a starving man helps him. His relationship with God shouldn't come into it.

Philippians 4:19, "But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus."
Psalms 37:25-26, "I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread. He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed."

God takes care of His own. This is what the message of salvation is all about.

2 Corinthians 8:9, "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich."

The starving mans position has everything to do with God's salvation plan. But first he must come into relationship with the Lord.

These tracts that are handed out has the message OF SALVATION so that the starving man can be filled.

John 6:33-36, "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not."

So, you're telling me that people who believe in God have, and in fact feel, no need for food or water? Sorry, I know this to be a falsehood.

It basically comes down a difference of opinion.

You feel it's more important to save a person's soul.

I feel it's more important to save a person's life.

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