Girl cries crystal tears
Status: Fraud
Here's an oldie but a goodie (Thanks, Nettie!). This video from 1996 shows Hasnah Mohamed, a 12-year-old Lebanese girl who "baffled medical experts by producing crystals from her eyes."Girl Has Crystals Coming Out Of Eyes
Fake? Of course. Hasnah's crystal tears were debunked by Joe Nickell in a 1997 Skeptical Inquirer article:
Hasnah, who claims to produce up to seven crystals a day, showed a collection of the allegedly apported rocks. From their rhomboidal shape and other properties, I recognized them as the natural quartz crystals generally known as "Herkimer diamonds." With the television crew being expected to arrive here the following day, I hastily made some phone calls and soon had acquired a handful of the gemstones.
Although such stones are indeed sharp - and I could see a dark red spot inside the girl's eyelid that probably represented a wound from one of them - I decided to duplicate the effect. All that was necessary was to pull out the lower eyelid to form a pouch and drop in a small crystal so that it rested, only a bit uncomfortably, out of sight. A tug on the lower lid causes the stone to come into view and then pop out of the eye. This I demonstrated at an appropriate time for the television camera, allowing their reporter to actually do the extraction himself. The effect was indistinguishable from the Lebanese "miracle."
Although such stones are indeed sharp - and I could see a dark red spot inside the girl's eyelid that probably represented a wound from one of them - I decided to duplicate the effect. All that was necessary was to pull out the lower eyelid to form a pouch and drop in a small crystal so that it rested, only a bit uncomfortably, out of sight. A tug on the lower lid causes the stone to come into view and then pop out of the eye. This I demonstrated at an appropriate time for the television camera, allowing their reporter to actually do the extraction himself. The effect was indistinguishable from the Lebanese "miracle."
Categories: Body Manipulation, Paranormal Posted by Alex on Tue Jul 22, 2008 |
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No, it's true... most Lebanese children have diamonds for eye-crusties... it's God's way of making up for their really big noses... and war
Posted by Hairy Houdini on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 08:03 AM
Truly the Lord works in mysterious ways, eh, Hairy?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 06:46 PM
Just because a journalist can fake it doesn't mean it's not a real miracle.
A stage magicial like Randi can perform tricks that look like those performed by Gellar, after all, and everyone knows that Uri has true paranormal gifts.
Likewise, Penn and Teller have 'revealed' how many effects can be achied on stage, and that doesn't change the fact that David Copperfield is a true wizard.
Posted by outeast on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:18 AM
A stage magicial like Randi can perform tricks that look like those performed by Gellar, after all, and everyone knows that Uri has true paranormal gifts.
Likewise, Penn and Teller have 'revealed' how many effects can be achied on stage, and that doesn't change the fact that David Copperfield is a true wizard.
You are SO right, outeast. Just this evening, I saw Criss Angel walk on Lake Mead. I mean, explain THAT, skeptics!
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:44 AM
Stupid Shit...
Posted by blalala on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 04:57 AM
uhh, I somehow thought it was fake too at first, but after reading the explanation as to HOW it was fake...i'm not so sure anymore.
The argument Joe Nickell made as to how he can duplicate the effect is not very convincing at all. and if THIS is the only source that proves that the crystal tears are fake...then I'm a believer.
Posted by G on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 07:42 AM
The argument Joe Nickell made as to how he can duplicate the effect is not very convincing at all. and if THIS is the only source that proves that the crystal tears are fake...then I'm a believer.
outeast, either you're a lying troll or you're dumber than a sack of rocks. Well, I guess people that stupid have to exist somewhere for hacks like Uri to exist.
Posted by vann on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 04:01 PM
You are SO right, outeast. Just this evening, I saw Criss Angel walk on Lake Mead. I mean, explain THAT, skeptics!
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 11:44 PM
The same way the actors did in the movie "What dreams may come" A tight net placed about 1 inch under the surface of the water
Posted by John on Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 11:44 PM
The same way the actors did in the movie "What dreams may come" A tight net placed about 1 inch under the surface of the water
its fake and outeast and cranky media guy are complete and total idiots
Believe me, I used to live in Lebanon and we found crystal in the ground just like that, they were common
Posted by Rashad Imajad on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 06:33 AM
Believe me, I used to live in Lebanon and we found crystal in the ground just like that, they were common
You are SO right, outeast. Just this evening, I saw Criss Angel walk on Lake Mead. I mean, explain THAT, skeptics!
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 11:44 PM
The same way the actors did in the movie "What dreams may come" A tight net placed about 1 inch under the surface of the water
Posted by John in Kentucky on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM
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Owned!
Posted by Someguy on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 11:44 PM
The same way the actors did in the movie "What dreams may come" A tight net placed about 1 inch under the surface of the water
Posted by John in Kentucky on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM
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Owned!
Just because a journalist can fake it doesn't mean it's not a real miracle.
You must be retarded!
Posted by PukeDragon on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM
You must be retarded!
everyone knows that Uri has true paranormal gifts.
Definetly retarded!
Posted by PukeDragon on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Definetly retarded!
Look! I'm totally idiot! I lack a sense of sarcasm! I think everybody posting on this thready is totally serious! I too am a believer!
Posted by Hihi on Sun Aug 24, 2008 at 04:11 AM
You know what I found interesting, that the person that was able to replicate this never actually showed any proof that he could do it. demonstrated at an appropriate time for a television camera. Well... where is that footage, I have never seen this done before. It's real, and you are fake.
Posted by Swatowsky on Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Just because a journalist can fake it doesn't mean it's not a real miracle.
You must be retarded!
That must be the worst logic - ever.
And quite offensive, to.
Posted by Chris on Fri Nov 28, 2008 at 06:28 AM
You must be retarded!
That must be the worst logic - ever.
And quite offensive, to.
I think things like this,are reminders,from a higher Authority,that we are more than we think we are,Miricles are from beyond,our 3d dimemtive
view of life.and are at times shown too us,so we dont forget our inherent god like attributes,that reside deep within our higher selfs..
Posted by rodney on Fri Nov 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM
view of life.and are at times shown too us,so we dont forget our inherent god like attributes,that reside deep within our higher selfs..
it makes me sad to see stuff like this in a way...the father blatanly just made her do stuff like this for the media hype and then hopefully some money...
Posted by will on Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 07:11 PM
Actually, the fact that someone can replicate this DOES mean it's not a miracle, by definition. A miracle is something that breaks natural laws, without explanation. And he explained it. GTFO, scrubs.
Learn to think.
Posted by Adam Roder on Fri Feb 20, 2009 at 09:21 PM
Learn to think.
i agree with swatowsky, i find it funny how that post was completely ignored by chris in england and adam roder in texas, i wouldn't be surprised if they both thought the earth was flat, don't just learn to think adam roder, learn to free your mind and accept the limitless world in which we live
Posted by andrew on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 02:28 PM
In response to Adam Roder from Texas...
Actually, he didn't debunk the miracle idea. He explained how he replicated it. That doesn't mean she's doing it like that, and if it's real then it is breaking natural laws without an explanation as of yet. There are leaps of assumptions that one would have to make to accept his explanation without question.
But I think your definition of miracle would not conform to the rest of of the miracle believing population who generally think a child being born into the world fits the category. That's a totally explainable and natural event. Even though I don't believe in miracles either way, you just set yourself up. You might want to take your own advice and learn to think.
Posted by Emily Vargo on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:12 PM
Actually, he didn't debunk the miracle idea. He explained how he replicated it. That doesn't mean she's doing it like that, and if it's real then it is breaking natural laws without an explanation as of yet. There are leaps of assumptions that one would have to make to accept his explanation without question.
But I think your definition of miracle would not conform to the rest of of the miracle believing population who generally think a child being born into the world fits the category. That's a totally explainable and natural event. Even though I don't believe in miracles either way, you just set yourself up. You might want to take your own advice and learn to think.
Hahaha when someone said Uri Gellar was legit I lol'd. Chris Angel is ok, his pretty boy crap and some of his lame levitation illusions make him a bit of a hack, none of it is real obviously.
As for the girl I say Ockam's razor does justice here, it isn't science, but without taking the girl where she couldn't shove quartz into her eyelids for a few days to see if she stops, it is the next best thing. What is more likely, a supernatural or highly unlikely biological mutant oddity? Or they are faking it to get the envy of the world/internets, maybe get a touring gig, keep up with the Joneses and so on? Well considering the whacky crap people lap up and pay big money for (uri gellar), I think I'll go with the latter.
Posted by scienceminded of youtube on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 01:01 AM
As for the girl I say Ockam's razor does justice here, it isn't science, but without taking the girl where she couldn't shove quartz into her eyelids for a few days to see if she stops, it is the next best thing. What is more likely, a supernatural or highly unlikely biological mutant oddity? Or they are faking it to get the envy of the world/internets, maybe get a touring gig, keep up with the Joneses and so on? Well considering the whacky crap people lap up and pay big money for (uri gellar), I think I'll go with the latter.
guys...thing is the girl produced three or four crystals right there on the show...one cud hide a single crystal...hiding so many crystals in the so call pouch of the lower eyelid is not possible without considerable damage
Posted by Durinzbane on Sun Jun 21, 2009 at 09:25 AM
u do know that they solved this, there are heavy chemical levels in her tears and once her tears come in contact with air they crystalize. thats it 😊
Posted by lebanon monkey on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 04:03 AM
Since the girl has since stopped
producing' crystals. it casts doubts about any miraculous phenomena, as well as the fact that it really isn't all that hard to put things in one's eye and get them out, all it takes is one in a million to try it successfully, and a father to exploit it. Rumors say he made quite a bit of money in hush money, but rumors are just that, rumors. In any case we can no longer test the scientific veracity of the claim twelve years after the fact.
I have seen a lot of people say, "well unless there is evidence to show it is natural or a hoax, I think it's a miracle from God."
I just can't believe it when I read this, what poor logical reasoning this is, we usually start off with a neutral or negative stance, we either don't know what it is, or we assume it is natural or a hoax until all evidence is exhausted, but to go straight for the supernatural, people just have undaunted faith sometimes...
Posted by scienceminded of youtube on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 04:28 AM
producing' crystals. it casts doubts about any miraculous phenomena, as well as the fact that it really isn't all that hard to put things in one's eye and get them out, all it takes is one in a million to try it successfully, and a father to exploit it. Rumors say he made quite a bit of money in hush money, but rumors are just that, rumors. In any case we can no longer test the scientific veracity of the claim twelve years after the fact.
I have seen a lot of people say, "well unless there is evidence to show it is natural or a hoax, I think it's a miracle from God."
I just can't believe it when I read this, what poor logical reasoning this is, we usually start off with a neutral or negative stance, we either don't know what it is, or we assume it is natural or a hoax until all evidence is exhausted, but to go straight for the supernatural, people just have undaunted faith sometimes...
Come on guys. I believe miracles can happen and there are some very bizarre things that have legitimately happened to people such as the warts that took over the "treeman" or those babys born with harlequin ichthyosis that look quite simply almost like reptile-like monsters (I don't mean that to be rude at all. This just isn't one of those things, the girl clearly has scar tissue in her eye from having done this. This was more than likely a ploy by her father to (and successfully did) raise media attention. I feel for the girl that is forced to take part in this, but it is definitely no miracle.
Posted by Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 10:50 PM
:-/ i think thats NOT a fake its a miracle, how can a child put glass in her eye and pretend that she cries glasses,the eyes r very very sensetive if just an eyelash go into the eye it hurts.so how can she put GLASSESn her eyes without blood coming out or pain and if sh does that deliberty that mean she is amazing and she is better than houdini the magition and her trick is on top of all houdinis tricks.BUT i dont think that its a trick i think its real and god CAN do anything
Posted by sara on Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 06:51 AM
I don't necessarily think that this is real, but the man's debunking it a little flawed. He showed a way to do it, but failed to reproduce the experience - he did not produce 4 stones in a single sitting. I'm not going to say that it's impossible, but the likelihood of that without some kind of irreparable eye damage is very slim. The girl obviously has scar tissue on her eye, which suggests that they indeed have cut her, but cramming four of those within a 'pocket' under her eye would more than likely not just be excruciating but extremely dangerous to the eye itself.
What Alex did is a possibility, but...well...keep an eye of skepticism on his debunking.
Posted by Anonymous on Thu Sep 03, 2009 at 08:19 AM
What Alex did is a possibility, but...well...keep an eye of skepticism on his debunking.
If the journalist claims to have reproduced the effects, then err....shouldn't there be at least a similar level of evidence i.e. video. It wouldn't be too difficult to upload this onto youtube etc. This has not been done and therefore, in the light of the evidence so far, the video from the Hasanah whether true or false, is stronger evidence than a third person narrative reported by a journalist, and can not be verified.
The above argument alone is suffcient to warrant removal of Hasanah's case as being fake! People of this site should take some responsibility for providing a platform for charlatants like this journalist or his/her proponents for submitting a claim of falsehood without actually any evidence.
Posted by Critic of the enemies of common sense on Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 03:36 PM
The above argument alone is suffcient to warrant removal of Hasanah's case as being fake! People of this site should take some responsibility for providing a platform for charlatants like this journalist or his/her proponents for submitting a claim of falsehood without actually any evidence.
http://books.google.com/books?id=wWAP2cs0lB0C&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=bruce+adams+crystal+tears&source=bl&ots=VRpJvIDAyU&sig=pjnnlGHChH2QyHFxKWT5EsruHGs&hl=en&ei=hnUbS9DIKJC0swPR-PH5Bw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=bruce adams crystal tears&f=false
Do a search for "crystal tears" and read on. For the anti-skeptical there are photos of the trick being reproduced.
To Critic of the enemies of common sense, you are simply too lazy to READ THE CITATION GIVEN BY THE POSTER. It was shown reproduced by JOE NICKELL in HIS BOOK and in THE SKEPTICAL INQUIRER which are cited by this very website. To call others enemies of common sense is ironic since looking for any citation except for pre-pasted pictures at your convenience is actually common sense when reading a cited article.
Posted by Scienceminded of youtube on Sun Dec 06, 2009 at 02:24 AM
Do a search for "crystal tears" and read on. For the anti-skeptical there are photos of the trick being reproduced.
To Critic of the enemies of common sense, you are simply too lazy to READ THE CITATION GIVEN BY THE POSTER. It was shown reproduced by JOE NICKELL in HIS BOOK and in THE SKEPTICAL INQUIRER which are cited by this very website. To call others enemies of common sense is ironic since looking for any citation except for pre-pasted pictures at your convenience is actually common sense when reading a cited article.
I believe it....and like those people said up there "just because the reporter can fake it, doesnt'e mean that it isn't a miracle". So what if they are not crystals. What she can do is still amazing!!!
Posted by Emily molina on Sat Jan 23, 2010 at 05:05 PM
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