Vampire Sites

Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book, The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.

Paranormal

Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003



Comments

Or you can just live YOUR life and mind your own fucking business. Nothing I hate more than busybody crusader types like yourself. You must not be a Satanist.

From the first link " Already studies with animal brains that were frozen to cryogenic temperatures and then revived showed normal brain wave activity. "

Alcor has also done a cruel experiment on a dog showing the same results. I did not post that link (interested parties can check the PETA website) because I do not support animal experimentation when there are so many worthy humans (like yourself) to perform cruel experiments on. Nevertheless results are results.

Have a nice fucking day. Bedtime for this Vamp.
Showing you did not read the links. Why ask for evidence if you are not looking at it?
Posted by The Count  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  05:59 AM
"Quote:Every religion has it's internment customs. Cryonics is the logical evolution of mummification.

Way to rationalise your moronic faith, retarded dipshit.

You may well be right. But mummification never worked. Cryonics has a big chance of simply not working either.

What bullshit will you come up with next?"

@TheShit

Dude, didn't you read the last hundred or so pages? In their system, they DON'T NEED cryonics to WORK. They don't NEED to be REVIVED. So it's OK if they NEVER awaken from cryonics death so long as their body remains PRESERVED. They use cryonics as a form of mummification.
They think that as long as the physical body is preserved somehow (cryonics), their astral bodies will be able to maintain consciousness and roam the astral realms FOREVER! And their food (yes, they need Lifeforce to sustain astral cohesion) will come from sucking the energy from normal folk (like you) who have JUST DIED. So say grandpa dies tonight an his spirit floats up to the astral plane, he may be screwed because a vampire is waiting to suck his Lifeforce to continue existing (avoiding what they call the Second Death.)
So the whole "cryonics is a pipe dream, you can't be revived, it won't work, they can't bring you back" spiel is IRRELEVANT to their use of it!
Being frozen forever is all they need (according to their belief system) to allow their spirit to consciously exist forever.
That's why they work to support the cryonics organizations ( Alcor and those involved, Ben Best & co.); they NEED cryonics to continue being available because it is the ONLY form of mummification presently available!
Read the Vampire Priest Bible and this will all make sense to you!
Posted by Ex-Lifeforce Drainer  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  06:56 AM
So who is going to revive you and is that truly guaranteed? I couldn't seem to find any clear answers to that on the cryonics websites.

Why hand over your life insurance policy to them if their is no guarantee of revival when your life insurance policy should go to your loved ones or a GUARANTEED longevity technological solution?

It would be kind of retarded to pay them all this money with no return on your part.

So far, this question that was presented earlier by another, seems to be being avoided.

"Q: Can you guarantee success?

A: Sadly, we can't. No one can guarantee success, because no one can guarantee the future. No one can predict scientific progress with certainty, but we believe a strong case can be made for the probable success of cryonics. But that doesn't mean that social disruptions aren't possible. Nuclear war, economic collapse, political strife, terrorism, are all possible, and they could end the lives of cryopreserved patients just as easily as they can end the lives of those outside it."

--taken from the "cryonics.org" website

SADLY WE CAN'T!!! WTF!!!

They also don't say that they will be there to revive you so who the hell will and they don't seem to be guaranteeing that.

Sounds fishy to me...
Posted by Hmmm...  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  07:32 AM
"Dude, didn't you read the last hundred or so pages? In their system, they DON'T NEED cryonics to WORK. They don't NEED to be REVIVED. So it's OK if they NEVER awaken from cryonics death so long as their body remains PRESERVED. They use cryonics as a form of mummification.
They think that as long as the physical body is preserved somehow (cryonics), their astral bodies will be able to maintain consciousness and roam the astral realms FOREVER! And their food (yes, they need Lifeforce to sustain astral cohesion) will come from sucking the energy from normal folk (like you) who have JUST DIED. So say grandpa dies tonight an his spirit floats up to the astral plane, he may be screwed because a vampire is waiting to suck his Lifeforce to continue existing (avoiding what they call the Second Death.)
So the whole "cryonics is a pipe dream, you can't be revived, it won't work, they can't bring you back" spiel is IRRELEVANT to their use of it!"

So "normal folk" die the second death? How are vampires so sure that sucking lifeforce is going to work after the first death?
Hmmm, according to this, your arguments on cryonics not being valid, because there is no guarantee of revival simply does not matter!
They don't need for the physical body to be revived for cryonics to "work for them." That means all these people who are shouting that cryonics does not work are barking up the wrong tree!
To Priest Shadow, come and get me. I doubt you have more than one or two members who are attorneys and I don't think they want to step in the smelly pile of crap here.
Posted by Shane  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  08:38 AM
Please do not mention the names of any life extension providers, be it business or personal. on this intolerable discussion board. When you mentions the names of such people or organizations, they wind up in GOOGLE search results. There are people looking for serious information about cryogenic preservation and they do not need to be prevented from obtaining such, because of ridiculous misinformation provided here.
There are no "vampires" or "satanists" involved in life extension.
Posted by Peter  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  09:35 AM
Why should anyone care if cryonics gets brought up? It's all bunk anyway.
Posted by Tom from Myspace  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  11:14 AM
Directed to Darius and/or The Count,
Is the Vampire concept of the Dragon identical with the concept of Brahman?
Jai Ma!
Surya
Posted by Surya  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  02:32 PM
@Peter Quote "There are no "vampires" or "satanists" involved in life extension."

Oh really? So David Styles and George Smith don't count then?

David Styles is involved in Eucrio (his picture is still on the page featured on this link).


George Smith is involved in the the Cryonics Institute.


David Styles is a warlock in the Church of Satan and an adept in the Temple of the Vampire.

George Smith is a magister in the Church of Satan and the leader of the Temple of the Vampire.

So, I hate to break the news to you bud, but you're full of shit.

Have a nice day!
Posted by Anonymous  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  06:20 PM
@Peter Quote "There are people looking for serious information about cryogenic preservation and they do not need to be prevented from obtaining such, because of ridiculous misinformation provided here."

Serious information???

Really???

Cryonics is a scam, and anyone that signs up for it is being ripped off. It doesn't work. It has never worked. And it never will work, because once you are dead there is no coming back. That is the truth. Otherwise doctors and scientists would be behind this idea 100%. But they are not.

And with laymen out in the field performing the work, it only makes the whole thing appear even more ridiculous.

Believe if you want, but don't cry when others demand to see proof!!!!!
Posted by Anonymous  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  06:34 PM
@Sock Puppet 1138 Quote "You and anonymous need to get more active or this shadow-dick priest will think that they scared peeps off."

I come and go. I have many endeavors to attend to. I enjoy my life. I am a carnal creature who enjoys carnal things. I am busy, always.

I also do enjoy this blog, and for very personal reasons. Sometimes, I like to watch. Other times, I like to take part in what's happening here. I don't take the retaliations of the social misfits personally. I am no one here; an anonymous voice helping lost souls avoid this deceptive cult, otherwise known as the Temple of the Vampire. I only care about the results being obtained by our Work here, which are many.

Worry not, everything is going in the proper direction per the overall scheme. 😊
Posted by Anonymous  on  Sat Feb 19, 2011  at  07:00 PM
@anonymous

You have proved nothing beyond your capacity to create a messy word soup of meaningless mumbo-jumbo on demand. No one wants to hear what you have to say.
Everyone knows that the Church of Satan is just a club for atheists who champion rationality and not a group of depraved devil worshipers. It is like being a Mason but more stimulating and artistically unconventional! We use the 'S' word for fun.
A Temple Vampire is one who is invested in the idea of life-extension through whatever means offer the possibility of survival. In no way is a Temple Vampire a blood drinker nor a doer of other immoral or illegal deeds.
If we look at the words, Satanist and Vampire by societies definitions, as you can clearly discern, the men you noted above (as having interest in cryonics) are in no way Satanists or Vampires.
Posted by Priest Shadow  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  12:20 AM
Anonymous (and other) clearly cannot see beyond our current technological capabilities.
Posted by The Count  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  02:06 AM
You idiotic dipshits. Immortality - never gonna happen. Dying is an unavoidable part of life and nature. Your brains clearly lack a few things: intelligence, logic, common sense.

Now, excuse me while I go and fuck my hot wife in the shower. She needs it.
Posted by The Shit  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  02:14 AM
@theshit
I don't think fat women are hot. They're just fat. But if you want to think your obese wife is hot, go right ahead.
Posted by C  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  08:52 AM
My detractors are free to disagree with my words as they see fit. Clearly they have been brainwashed. I leave them to their folly.

I have said all that I have to say on the matter. For myself, and many others who have come this way, the case is closed, and has been for a long time.

We know what it's all about. We've been there. We've seen it firsthand. We know the truth.

I, personally, have wasted enough time on this matter. I may check back from time to time to enjoy the thread over a cup of coffee, but there no longer exists a need for me to be here any longer.

Like it or not, the "secrets" that were once so jealously guarded have now become as common knowledge. Those looking to make an informed decision about joining now have the tools to do so.

To my detractors: I am not offended by the insults. I could care less. You simply are not important enough to me for your words, thoughts, or feelings to have any effect. In the end, you are nothing to me. This is how it should be.

Have a nice life! 😊
Posted by Anonymous  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  01:38 PM
anonymous,
I can't believe Priest Shadow scared you off with his talk of attorneys. Sad.
Only Rupert and Sand left. Not fun anymore.
Posted by Sock Puppet 1138  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  03:16 PM
just look around you humans, though I doubt you can.. they make good business and money from simple funeral of the human so why not make it out of crygoenics or other things like this

I don't hold it against them or anybody, because any human stupid enough be taken advantage of, deserves and should be taken advantage of. it's pretty much as simple as that. of course to me, and anyone else seeing the bigger picture beyond themselves their ego and body and mind

some fly to the moon ...some get frozen.. but who today truly lives where they are, as they are, and while they are... this is the question no one dares ask any more... let alone answer and praxctice for themselves 24/7

satanists or vampires aren't perfect creatures.. they are just better than humans because they see bigger picture and strive for more ever for more

the striving is what counts

call me what you want.. hate me if you must.. now I know all too well the worth of a doomed fools words or opinions... and most of you are just that.. doomed fools. who know it not. and never will. plus you bite the hand that wants to help and feed you. this is double insult.
Posted by darius  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  03:24 PM
After what I did with her she definitely needs a shower. XD
Posted by The Count  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  04:21 PM
"After what I did with her she definitely needs a shower. XD"
That freaking hilarious Count! Spilled another drink because of it. Damned vampire!
Posted by Sock Puppet 1138  on  Sun Feb 20, 2011  at  07:59 PM
LOTS of life extension people are Stanists/Vampires/Freaks heres some you also missed

Erik Bourgesie - Cryonics Belguim/Eucrio/ToV
Edgar Swank - (ACS/CoS)
Dr Max More - Lucifer.com/Alcor
Micheal Smith - Cryonics Institute/Tov
Ray Kurzweil - Author, KKK and Satanic High preist of |Evil Robots
Aubrey De Grey - SENS/Eucrio/ToV? (looks like a young fucking Sauron anyways)
Saul Kent - LEF/Satanist/Puppetmaster
Nuno Martins (Eucrio/Tov)
Ben Best (closet ToV - Come on or his eyes are closed)


Seems like Stanism is prerequisite of the Life Extension movement not the other way round.


Which makes sense - who has sold immortality to kings through out the ages - Alchemists who chose the left hand path thats who.....
Posted by anonymoused  on  Mon Feb 21, 2011  at  11:36 AM
here is something you yourself have missed

immortality cannot be sold
or bought

a big miss for a vampire or satanist

giving your family a bad name are ya
Posted by darius  on  Mon Feb 21, 2011  at  11:38 AM
You vampires seem to have a pretty schizophrenic view of the term 'immortality'. As I understood it, and many past & present ToVers had it figured, it was always about delaying the 2nd death in the astral. Okay. Fine. However, this is not physical immortality. How could it ever be? So what's with all the talk of technological advances? Nanotech... really? Thawing out your futuristically mummified body? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of anchoring? Where is this in the Vamp Adept Bible? Am I missing some pages?

Hey Darius: "Immortality cannot be sold or bought" Smartest quote by any ToVer on this board.

Hey Count: How long have you been in TOV? I'm willing to bet less than 5 years, probably less than 3, the way you defend cryonics.

Hey Priest Shadow: Go fuck yourself. Take your idle threats elsewhere, you fucking bootlicker!!

TWIMC: Since when does an eternal astral existence = a physical immortality???
Posted by I beat kids  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  04:32 AM
You little fuckers don't make very convincing vampires. Bela Lugosi was one of the few who got it right. You? You are pathetic.
Posted by Excrement Man  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  08:58 AM
@Ibeatkids
"Where is this in the Vamp Adept Bible? Am I missing some pages?"

All the information on astral existence and feeding off dying people to avoid the second death whilst you are in your astral body (requiring the physical body as an anchor,) is in the Vampire Priesthood Bible. The Vampire Priesthood Bible is the specific Bible you are have to purchase and study to enter the Priesthood (i.e. you prove that you purchased a cryonics contract.)
Posted by Scarab  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  09:21 AM
I'm all about the theory of "Mind over Matter", in fact when it comes to body and health I think it to be oh so true.

I don't think that you Plastic-Fangers are the pioneers of this market...to say the least!

I don't believe, nor should anyone else that the white-light ramblings of the ToV and it's pamphlets hold the keys to the philosophy of "Mind over Matter".

As of recent I have watched the topic drift away from the "White-Light" supernatural hodge-podge and steer more towards a common practice in which a person can change everyday thought and/or patterns which can by all means be an extender of ones life.

Not by any means Immortality but definately a longer life.

What you teach, that can be applied, and has been proven effective does not make you immortal. Even in the science fiction world would not make you a Vampire.
Posted by Rupert  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  11:31 AM
as always yuo all complicate things for nothing

if you cannot find it within then you will never find it without

no books or associations can take you all the way to end of path.. which is among other things the realization that there is no end... they can only help. those who get stuck on books, philosophies, religions, associations of ANY kind til end of their lives, simply miss the point and miss their chance.
Posted by darius  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  12:24 PM
darius.....do you know of any Molecular Biologists?

You darius are delusional, you probably have no real place in Society as some of your fellow "Vampires" do.

An unveiling of your identity probably wouldn't stir the smallest of pots....Go Ducks!
Posted by Rupert  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  01:00 PM
please, you amuse me.. not all vampires live in packs rupert

society is a nice thing, but only to rule over.. over the mindless human like you, with no real energy or power

we're all delusional
there is no magic without madness
the more mad the better

may the best ones win
and they will.
Posted by darius  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  01:24 PM
"All the information on astral existence and feeding off dying people to avoid the second death whilst you are in your astral body (requiring the physical body as an anchor,) is in the Vampire Priesthood Bible. The Vampire Priesthood Bible is the specific Bible you are have to purchase and study to enter the Priesthood (i.e. you prove that you purchased a cryonics contract.)"

That is a lie.
Anyone can purchase an authorized copy of the Vampire Priesthood Bible at http://www.vampiretemple.com
You do not need to buy anything else, or prove that you bought something, to be able to acquire a copy.
Posted by Mirage  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  07:08 PM
I read all the bibles. I think that the idea that a physical anchor is required for the "astral body" to exist is far fetched at best and purely absurd at worst.
No one has come back from death to tell us anything.
I don't know of any NDE had by anyone clinically dead for a significant (day or more) amount of time.
This whole ToV life-while-cryogenically-preserved is based on what?
Why wasn't Anton LaVey frozen?
Which Church of Satan members have cryonics contracts?
Thanks,
Mathias
Posted by Atman  on  Wed Feb 23, 2011  at  09:41 PM
Damn it, the dipshit vampires are flooding the place.

Why don't you all stick some lifeforce up your asses?
Posted by The Shit  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  03:52 AM
Nemo:
Posted by Criticize  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  01:38 PM
Nemo:
Posted by Criticize  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  01:48 PM
Continued from above: "Thus we see people who have to have heart attack, drop dead, be resuscitated, and then be willing to admit that after having had an NDE that was more vividly real than anything they EVER experienced before that there is more to reality than what science has currently identified.

So the Temple suggests that instead of waiting for a heart attack and hoping to be one of the 20% who have an NDE, that you roll up your sleeves and have an OBE without dying. Do the work required to verify what is what on each level of the Temple.

Be different from the masses who only look for permission from authority figures to decide what they can or cannot accept as real! Just consider that if you honestly know They are real then ask yourself what advantage there is to not trusting Their instructions?

I will add that They are not asking you to screw up your Dayside life in any manner that I am aware of. No request that you sell all of your worldly possessions and sit on a hilltop waiting to be rescued by UFOs or Jesus. No cyanide-laced Kool-Aid. No vows of chastity or poverty.

To the contrary, as you well know, our members are asked to pull together serious Dayside plans and to quietly go about testing the Nightside Teachings through steady effort.

There are levels of certainty regarding Their reality. But when you are really sure then you will treat what They suggest differently.

I know because I do and I am pleased to be able to state that most of those in the Priesthood do as well.
Posted by Criticize  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  01:49 PM
u can all talk forever about theories and speculations on this and that.. but the bottom line is that unless the seeker has a mystical experince, no matter of you call it kundalini or astrial travel or communion through ritual.. or what not, then he will forever remain in doubt and forever just speculating.

therefore the aim of every seeker should be mystical experience. the catch of course being that one cannot make of it an aim in itself else it never really comes. making it all into some sort of a earned or deserved experience.. in most cases a birthright, in some others, perhaps earned through effort and austerity of this or that kind.

once we get there, all words mean nothing. and we change, and with us changes the way we see the world. it's irrelevant whether call that yoga or communion with undead or what not. what matters is the result it yields.

most people here or in any cult including tov never have a mystical experience. and most people who do, never bother to join any cults. because they are fit to run and lead and teach. not to follow or serve.
Posted by darius  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  02:12 PM
Criticize, please post more about the ToV's belief in the Undead Gods. I was considering joining (I'm in the CoS and already purchased several of the bible offerings) and thought that the Undead Gods represented Nemo and some other high level *corporeal* members. Apparently, this is not the case! What you posted seems to point out that Nemo and the ToV believe in actual disembodied spirits who offer them advice and life guidance!
Please post more! I now think I understand now why some people say both groups shouldn't mix.
Posted by Patricia  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  03:03 PM
forget about our cults and groups.
know thyself is the only science worth devoting your life to.

or in words of crowley.. well.. not really his but anyway..

There is beauty in every incident of life; the true and the false, the wise and the
foolish, are all one in the eye that beholds all without passion or prejudice: and
the secret appears to lie not in the retirement from the world, but in keeping a
part of oneself Vestal, sacred, intact, aloof from that self which makes contact
with the external universe. In other words, in a separation of that which is and
perceives from that which acts and suffers. And the art of doing this is really
the art of being an artist. As a rule, it is a birthright; it may perhaps be attained
by prayer and fasting; most surely, it can never be bought.
Posted by darius  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  03:12 PM
Is there a moderator available?
Darius is obviously a troll, planted to divert readers attention from the serious posts at hand to his gibberish.
Please delete all of Darius' postings.
Posted by Patricia  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  06:20 PM
patricia, you are a female. your understandign will always be limited. you are for breeding more slaves only. there is no glory for you, female.. and your very nature and destiny is to be chained to earth and breed breed breed. and so you do and so you will. all you can hope for is a good man who will remind you and set you in your right place. and keep you there forever. just as humans get very unsettled when they are not in the servitude position, so do females, when they do not serve a man.

but that's roughly the story of humanity, they always stone the genius. they fear it. predator vs prey. same old story.

I am not angry. nor upset. nor even disappointed. I am merely superior to you female.
Posted by darius  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  06:31 PM
"Is there a moderator available?
Darius is obviously a troll, planted to divert readers attention from the serious posts at hand to his gibberish.
Please delete all of Darius' postings."

Leave them. They are of use in this discussion. Just wait and see.
Posted by Sand  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  07:00 PM
Patricia,

I would advise you to save your money. Anything the Temple offers can be found in outside sources. Most of their ideas come from old and modern concepts that can be found at amazon.com or a library.
Posted by Criticize  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  07:19 PM
Pat,
If you are on LttD, stir some shit up by subtly letting your CoS friends know about the MoH and what has been written here.
The important fact is that they don't mention cryonics on their website. They hide that. That's the big secret. They don't tell you that once you join, you MUST purchase a 30k+ cryonics contract to get into the upper levels.
Like other similar "occult" groups, they will brainwash you into thinking that those in the group are special (predator/elite) while those outside the group are merely human (prey/robots). Once you accept that, you will begin to make decisions based on the erroneous belief that the group members posses superior ideas to those outside the group. You may lose money and time while you figure out that it's all B.S. But eventually, everyone does. That's why you can't find much more than a dozen members who have been with the group for over a decade.Everyone is new every several years! Everyone figures it out !ROFL!
Posted by Stacy  on  Thu Feb 24, 2011  at  08:49 PM
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Posted by B  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  12:47 PM
Nemo: "You have The Vampire Bible.

If you follow the instructions described there you have the opportunity to verify what you seek and much more.

However, please understand that if you already disbelieve in such things, you will only succeed in proving that you can effectively block psi, something that has been publicly known since 1942.

The Temple Motto is "Test Everything, Believe Nothing."

The Temple Motto is not "Test us on everything and skip doing it yourself."

The Temple Motto is also not "Test nothing yourself and disbelieve everything."

You also have to drop your beliefs that such things are not possible to ever have a reliable chance to verify them for yourself.

You have to validate the experiences yourself to actually know what is so.

Otherwise you will never be certain whether or not you are being tricked by others or just deluding yourself.

Anything you do not do yourself is based on faith, not personal validation.

You are either having faith in what others are claiming, or you are testing these things for yourself and acquiring bedrock certainty.

For the former, there are about six billion humans ready to take you in.

We are only interested in the latter.

We are not about debate, argumentation, or other such useless nonsense.

The Temple is only concerned with obtaining results that the very few can achieve since only a very few are willing to actually "Test Everything, Believe Nothing".

For the masses, they must cling to their beliefs even it means their death.

We seek the few who want more and are willing to act on that desire.

The Temple is, itself, the test."
Posted by Awakening of Intelligence  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  01:41 PM
To: Criticize
You think it is humorous to post private messages on a public forum.
It is not.
All our actions have immediate karmic repercussions.
I hope you are prepared to deal with yours.
Posted by Aurobindo  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  04:40 PM
Nemo: "When you fly on any airline in the world, they always explain how, if cabin pressure drops and the oxygen masks pop out, you should put your own mask on first and only then assist others, such as children, to put theirs on.

The Six Earthly Secrets are not casual suggestions but the true Grand Grimoire of Earthly Magic - the secrets to mastering your life on this world first.

You first.

Others second.

It is the only order that makes sense.

Glad that you understand this already.

That puts you ahead of about six billion people!"
Posted by Awakening of Intelligence  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  07:38 PM
Nemo: "There is a common dodge by some "scientists" to assume that if they can offer any kind of explanation for what happens physically then this "explains" such things as the out of body experience, for example.

Michael Persinger, a medical researcher in Canada, applies pulsing magnetic fields to certain parts of the brain, a volunteer has an out of body experience or perceives "aliens" in the room, and then Persinger says that this "proves" it was all a hallucination.

It proves nothing of the sort.

It only demonstrates that sometimes using pulsed magnetic fields you can induce an out of body experience or the experience of perceiving "aliens" in the same room with you.

Persinger does not even consider the possiblity that his magnetic fields might be enabling the brain to perceive and do things that otherwise it does not seem to do.

He assumes there is no astral body that could leave the physical body and so he is looking only for what could cause these "hallucinations".

He assumes that there is no one else in the room that the subject reports because Persinger does not see anyone else.

Perhaps Persinger should consider that the subject is now capable of seeing things that Persinger is still blind to!

It is quite sad to see these otherwise intelligent researchers ignore reports from their subjects when they acquire information they "should" not know while having an out of body experience!

But, over and over again, people do exactly that! They continue to have out of body experiences commonly in life threatening situations (such as the near death experience or NDE) and report back information they acquired while away from the body which is then verified as correct.

For the Vampire it is necessary to remember that the ignorant superstitious belief in classical materialism (disproven by physics for more than a century now) is common and stubbornly maintained by many scientists in other fields.

They should really know better but long held beliefs are difficult for the average person to challenge and break free from - especially when all of your peers still seem to view any other perspective as heresy.

The Vampire must recognize that these "authorities" have their own deeply held prejudices just as one would expect from members of a fundamentalist Christian church when confronted with evidence for evolution.

"Materialism" is a faith that has been disproven by science.

This is important to remember since we are still surrounded by "scientists" who are true believers in that faith!

Test Everything. Believe Nothing.

Especially do not simply believe what the priests of a disproven religion tell you is true or false.

Look at the actual evidence and make your own judgments.

Do not just believe what you are told by anyone.

Even so-called "scientists".
Posted by Criticize  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  08:46 PM
I think this has not been posted here. It is a person name JWG and person name Obsidian talking about the TOV. Both are names in LttD is this those men?

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/topic?id=27109

The thread had history of the TOV too!
Posted by Karl  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  11:09 PM
WARNING: the link above does not work! The link above goes to a virus infecting site! It gave my computer a trojan!
Posted by Matt  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  11:31 PM
I guess too many people have an abundance of free time in within the confines of their worthless existences. Your identities are not as anonymous as you may think.
We are Watching.
Posted by N  on  Fri Feb 25, 2011  at  11:35 PM
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