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Upside-Down Christmas Trees
Status: Real
image Target.com is was selling an upside-down Christmas tree for $499.99. (Thanks to Travis for the link--which has now gone dead, therefore I removed it) I'm not religious, but my first thought when seeing it was that it would be a perfect holiday decoration for a family of Satanists, to accompany their upside-down crosses and crucified Santa. I know it's not a joke, or some mistake on Target's part, because Hammacher Schlemmer is selling the same thing for $100 more. I understand these things are supposed to be space-savers, but why not save space by buying a smaller tree? I guess I just don't see the point, or appeal, of an upside-down tree. And why are they so ridiculously expensive?
Categories: Religion
Posted by The Curator on Wed Nov 09, 2005
Comments (84)
ah, ok... so my choice of words wasn't strictly accurate, but before coke got in on the deal there was no red suited, overweight whiskery gentleman. There were permutations, but coke put it all together.
Posted by Richard@Home  in  Sheffield, Uk  on  Tue Nov 15, 2005  at  10:32 AM
Brenda Durham said:

"The ones who try to turn everything "upside-down" surely must know they're only feebly attempting to defy the One who makes everything RIGHT, in the end!"

Are you wearing any mixed-fiber clothing or do you own any such clothing? If so, get rid of it immediately. The Bible says you shouldn't wear mixed-fiber clothing.

You don't want to do anything that contradicts the Bible, right? Please report back when you have complied with this Scripture.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Tue Nov 15, 2005  at  04:17 PM
Cranky Media Guy, why stop with mixed-fiber clothing?
The same "purity codes" in the Bible that ban blended fibers (and homosexuality, by the way) also prohibit:
Cutting your hair or shaving.
Wearing any red garment.
Sowing two kinds of seeds in the same field.
Eating the hind quarters of an animal (e.g. ham, round, etc.)
Taking your hat off.
Eating any food that's been touched by a menstruating woman.
Touching a menstruating woman.
Etc.
However, selling your daughter into slavery is specifically permitted, and so is having several wives and a bunch of concubines.
The stuff those sections tell us we MUST do is even more interesting. As Brenda Durham says, if you read the Bible, you won't get bored.

Well, I've got to go sacrifice a red heifer now.
Posted by Big Gary, on a cloud  in  Dallas, Texas  on  Tue Nov 15, 2005  at  06:49 PM
You're right, Big Gary, there are a LOT of ridiculous things in the Bible. I like to bring up the "mixed fabric" thing because while some of the other silliness doesn't apply to the average person, just about everyone has at least one mixed fabric garment in their closet.

If the Bible is the inerrant word of God, then you HAVE to throw out your mixed fiber clothing right away if you want to call yourself a fundamentalist. All those cool 50/50 T-shirts you like to wear in the Summer? Buh-bye! You don't want to sin via your wardrobe, after all.

I think we can all agree on the "hating homos" part, though. Just kidding.

Have fun slaughtering the red heifer, Gary.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Wed Nov 16, 2005  at  03:27 AM
Just a couple things I'm curious about. Didn't Santa Claus originate from the Christian St. Nicholas... who I'm quite certain was not drinking a happy little cocaine bubbly, and about those ornaments showing better....well, I would really like to know who's spending so much money on ornaments because of "Christ's birthday" that you have to turn the damned tree upside down to see them and fit presents under the tree. I hope your God sends you the voices of all the children you could have fed (or maybe fed to Sally Struthers, I've never figured that out) in a Christmas miracle like Scrooges. I'll tell you what, if i were god, and y'all spent that much money decorating for my 2 hour birthday bash, I'd be some pissed.
Posted by Ruthie  on  Wed Nov 16, 2005  at  06:43 AM
hmmm....all the comments I've read are extremely interesting! Yes, as someone else agreed, the Bible is not boring at all.
Of course I have Biblical answers to every post;(any fervent Christian does). Cranky, yours was quite interesting, but it's way too tempting to respond in like manner, so I'm leavin' it be. Might start a whole chain reaction that I don't have time for right now. (my dial-up is too slow; I'd be on this site all day if I kept talking!....I might visit the new forum that's being set up sometime if it's easier/faster...
Have fun and be blessed, all of y'all!!
Posted by brenda durham  in  USA  on  Wed Nov 16, 2005  at  09:01 AM
http://www.iarelative.com/xmas/upside.htm

At the Milwaukee Public Museum they have an outstanding exhibit called the "European Village" which features a variety of European homes from the 1700-1800s'. During the holiday season several times in the Polish home the Christmas tree is hung upside down from the ceiling. My grandmother who is of Polish decent has told me that this was a tradition in many Polish homes that was brought to America by many immigrants as late as the beginning of the 20th century. As the immigrants adapted to their new country, different traditions were adopted in the Christmas celebration, and this tradition, as best I can tell, has been long abandon, but indeed, it was a tradition that appears to have originated in the 12th century, according to the link above.
Posted by Tim  in  Milwaukee WI  on  Wed Nov 16, 2005  at  02:36 PM
Back in the 7th century a monk from Crediton, Devonshire, traveled to Germany to spread the Word of God. Legend has it that he used the triangular shape of the Fir Tree to describe the Holy Trinity of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit to the German people. The German people started to revere the Fir Tree as "God's Tree". In the next 5 centuries, the tree became a symbol of Christianity, and was being hung upside-down from the ceiling as a sign of Christianity.
Posted by merry christmas  on  Thu Nov 17, 2005  at  05:37 PM
The Bible does mention the Christmas tree and it being decorated. It doesn't mention it as something to do, but not to do.

"The customs of the people are worthless, they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel, they adore it with silver and gold, they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter" (Jeremiah 10-3,4).

Christmas, as with other pagan holidays and rituals, were integrated into Christianity by early Romans/Catholics to spread the religion and make it easier for the people. It was a way to spread their power/influence by making the pagan's ways the "new" Christian ways.

There isn't very much about Christianity today that hasn't been touched by these methods and most believe it is how it has always been. Very few people actually do the research about their beliefs.
Posted by Bill Fellner  in  IL, US  on  Fri Nov 18, 2005  at  10:01 PM
Amen, Bill Fellner! (at least, Amen, I agree with part of your post)! Good to see someone else who finally referred to the Good Book on this subject (yes, I'm still on the upside-down Christmas trees).
You're right about the Jeremiah scripture, in part. But it's best to remember that those trees couldn't have been actual "Christmas" trees since Christ had not yet been born! (Jeremiah is Old-testament). Setting up the trees was just a pagan way of setting up a "god" to worship; those people perhaps knew of God Himself, but did not personally know Him. He was perhaps still, to them, the UNKNOWN GOD mentioned in another Bible scripture. Jesus Christ's birth, death, and resurrection made God/Jesus Himself reachable, knowable, to all of us who want to know Him. Jeremiah 10:5 tells how their worship was vain because the tree could not move; it had to be carried, it could not speak; it was just a "thing" with no power of its own for either good nor evil. A true follower of Jesus Christ can take and use anything in creation for a Christian purpose, or can simply use it as a thing of simple pleasure, like a pretty Christmas tree. It is when non-believers try to use those things that their use/purposes are twisted and un-Godly!
Jeremiah 10:12 is telling everyone not to WORSHIP any tree; for trees, etc., are creations of God, they are not the Creator! All things aside, we are to seek the face of the God in Jeremiah 10: 10, 12, and 13.
Posted by brenda durham  in  USA  on  Mon Nov 21, 2005  at  10:41 AM
I totaly agree with you! By the way where the fuck do you put the star.. in your hand... and how do you water the damn tree?? And why are they so riculousy expensive $ 499.00 a pop? Shit i'd burn that tree up and make fire camp wood out of it!!!!! So I guess next year the next tradition is to put the star upside down then that would totally represent satan lovers! Oh forgot the damn christmas presents they need to be put upside down as well! Hahahaha....!
Posted by Christine.E  on  Wed Nov 23, 2005  at  01:25 AM
who in the hell thought of this shit this is the stupidest thing i've heard or seen since the ice age please tell me who in their right damn mind will purchase this bullshit excuse my profanity but you'll are making me react this way because you'll are just trying to make money any kind of way possible and then you want to charge an arm and a leg for it when you can take your own tree and turn it upside down and look stupid at no cost.
Posted by concerned citizen of the us  in  columbus ga  on  Wed Nov 23, 2005  at  09:57 AM
When CNN first ran the story on the Upside Down Christmas Tree, I asked for verifications from several of our email groups.

I did get many verifications that the upside down tree is a real tradition.

Visit http://www.iarelative.com/xmas/upside.htm for more on this strange Christmas Tradition.

Greg Kopchak
It's All Relative

A P.S. to Tim:

I did get 10 verifications on the upside down tree last week. 7 of the 10 were from trusted sources.

Also check out

http://www.stcharleschristmas.com/christmashistory.htm
Posted by Greg Kopchak  in  Florissant, Missouri  on  Sat Nov 26, 2005  at  01:21 PM
We started hanging our Christmas tree upside down about 25 years ago. We had a dog with a long tail and she would knock the ornaments off a regular tree getting to the window to look out. We either had to change to a table top tree or think of something different. Hanging it upside down took care of the problem and we could still use the many ornaments we had collected over the years. It became a tradition for us to hang our tree that way and we have done it ever since. You can see our tree at http://www.thesnellings.com
Posted by PalusMus  in  Sitka, Alaska  on  Mon Nov 28, 2005  at  01:53 AM
I think they are FABULOUS!!!! I do not celebrate christmas so i dont have a tree in my house anyway...but i sure like this...and i am not satanic in anyway...I like to think God and I are close...but what does that have to do with a tree turned upsidedown...one thing i cant understand though is "Why didnt I think of that First?"..I could just kick myself....haha
Posted by judi  on  Fri Dec 02, 2005  at  10:05 AM
well in response to the Satanists.. Appartently you have no imaginagtion. I am a 32 year old woman who has grown up with a UPSIDE DOWN Christmas tree. If done correctly and all it can be a BEAUTIFUL tree. My family tradition was to hang the tree and yes i said hang as we used a REAL LIVE christmas tree. Decortate as normal with all the ornamants we wanted tinsel and ices to be included. Some people are so narrow minded. The tree is what you make it and UPSIDE DOWN or RIGHT SIDE UP it can be as BEAUTIFUL as you make it.
Posted by Debbie  in  Chesapeake, VA  on  Fri Dec 02, 2005  at  11:16 AM
Debbie, dear, it isn't a live tree after you cut it from the earth.
Posted by Angelo  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  01:35 PM
Ok, what would you call a tree that was cut from the earth that didn't have WIRES for LIMBS then.. Duh.. Everyone has to have something to argue about the point was that a REAL NOT ARTIFICIAL tree can be put however your family wants it and to make such a big deal over the fact that the tree is upside down is just so you people who have no imagination can argue with those people who do.. smile
Posted by debbie  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  01:43 PM
Different decorating that's all. Trying to make a fashion statement. Must be a left-wing, national socialist thing to try to anger God fearing Christians calling it a right wing thing. Of course only the most ignorant would think Christians or Republicans are "Right Wing" as they are not "Anarchists". Upside-down firs were hung to emphasize the three points are to remind us of the holy trinity. The firs were evergreens to remind us that God's love is everlasting.
The Satanic thing must be from other God hating, satan worshipping, hate mongering liberals that think they are gods, trying to stir up dissention among those who know that if God didn't send his son to redeem our sins, we would wind up like the liberals as worms in the lake of fire with the fallen angel for eternity.
tongue rolleye
Posted by John Q. Public  in  USA  on  Wed Dec 07, 2005  at  03:35 PM
Once again Christ is being misrepresented and Satan exalted. That is okay because Jesus Christ and the God the Father will have the final say during the Great White Throne Judgment! If not before--you ain't seen nothin' yet All those who come against my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. They will both show the world who is in control.
Posted by Keisha Roberson  on  Sat Dec 10, 2005  at  11:26 PM
Keisha Roberson said:

"That is okay because Jesus Christ and the God the Father will have the final say during the Great White Throne Judgment!"

Can you ask your two boys to hurry the Final Judgment up? It would help me save a TON of money on Christmas presents.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Sun Dec 11, 2005  at  02:35 AM
Christians should learn to embrace 'Xmas' and the 'upside-down Christmas tree'. The only reason this is even a topic is because of narrow minded Christians
Posted by bottle  on  Mon Dec 12, 2005  at  08:21 PM
This is in response to the comment posted by bottle--Dec 12. That is the problem we as Christians have embraced to much of the world. W And thats why there are so many weak-minded Christians today. If we can't stand now for Christ-how are we going to stand when the Great Tribulation comes? Satan of course is having a comedy showlooking at how we latch on to him through the things he promotes. I don't recall when Christ went to the cross on behalf of us the cross being upside down.
Posted by Keisha Roberson  on  Tue Dec 13, 2005  at  07:32 AM
I don't recall when Christ went to the cross on behalf of us the cross being upside down. - Keisha

Oh, you were there?

Nobody knows what crosses used for crucifixion looked like. It's possible there was no one fixed shape in use. They may have used X shaped ones, T shaped ones, or + in addition to the
Posted by Charybdis  in  Hell  on  Tue Dec 13, 2005  at  11:41 AM
Keisha Roberson said:

"I don't recall when Christ went to the cross on behalf of us the cross being upside down."

As a matter of fact, one of the saints was allegedly crucified upside-down because he said he wasn't worthy of dying the same way as Christ. You Jeezo-worshipper really need to know your fairy tale better than you do. I don't even believe this nonsense and I know the story better than you do. Sheesh.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Tue Dec 13, 2005  at  07:27 PM
This is in response to Cranky Media Guy. Thats right I am a JESUS WORSHIPPER!And proud to be one! Saint Who? Check your facts--All the saints were of paganism origin. I don't recall any saints alongside Jesus when he hung from the rugged cross. Since you think the Bible is such a fairy tale--why dont you try going beyond your ignorance and begin reading the 4 Gospels--in the New Testatment--maybe you will learn something that a fairytale can't tell you!!!!!!
Posted by Keisha Roberson  on  Tue Dec 13, 2005  at  08:42 PM
Keisha Roberson said:

"This is in response to Cranky Media Guy. Thats right I am a JESUS WORSHIPPER!And proud to be one! Saint Who? Check your facts--All the saints were of paganism origin."

Oh? That's fascinating. Gee, the Catholic Church sure seems to be under the impression that saints are Christian. You, of course, know better. *laugh*

"I don't recall any saints alongside Jesus when he hung from the rugged cross."

Where did I say that the saint who was crucified upside-down was alongside Jesus? If I remember my Catholic school teaching, the two other guys on crosses alongside Jesus were supposedly thieves, one of whom accepted Christ's divinity while dying and is therefore known as the "good thief."

"Since you think the Bible is such a fairy tale--why dont you try going beyond your ignorance and begin reading the 4 Gospels--in the New Testatment--maybe you will learn something that a fairytale can't tell you!!!!!!"

Well, I HAVE read the Gospels. The Gospels are PART OF THE BIBLE as is the entire New Testament so I don't get your point here. It's all a fairytale, in my opinion.

Like I said, I'm not a believer and I seem to know your book better than you do.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Tue Dec 13, 2005  at  09:11 PM
According to many internet sites I've seen these upside down trees originated in early German Christianity because the more Pagan Yule traditions used rightside up trees and they wanted to distinguish the Christian from the Pagan, and also because 17th century monks used triangular fir trees to explain the Trinity (don't exactly see how that one fits in) but who really knows for sure. I bet they are Satanists marking their homes so the devil will know which homes are truly Christain.
Posted by William Smith  in  Memphis  on  Mon Dec 26, 2005  at  04:22 AM
I think Keisha Roberson should not say anything else about this. You claim to be a "Christian" and rudely defend its truth, yet your actions do not give any indication that you truly believe it. Doesn't the Bible say "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and "a meek answer turns away wrath"? Instead of trying to show others what you believe through your actions, you make obnoxious, arrogant, condescending comments informing others of their flaws. I think you should take the log out of your own eye before pointing out the speck in someone else's.
Posted by Ben  on  Thu Mar 02, 2006  at  01:48 AM
Yule is the holiest of all the Germanic feasts. The name is too old for its meaning to be easily traced, but the most common guesses derive it from a root meaning 'wheel', perhaps related to the wheel of the Sun herself, as seen by the sun-wheels which were sometimes burnt in Germany as part of folk-festivities at this time. Yule is the season at which the gods and goddesses are closest to Midgard: our deities were called 'Yule-Beings' by the Norse, a title which survived among the Lapps at least until 1674; and Odin himself is called 'J
Posted by Adrienne  in  Kansas City, KS  on  Sun Oct 01, 2006  at  10:40 PM
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