Storm Near Bunbury?

Some amazing pictures of a tornado have been doing the rounds. According to the info that accompanies them, these are "Photos of storm near Bunbury" (which is in Australia), although the text also notes that "you'd swear these were taken in america's mid west / tornado belt..." This has started some discussion on alt.folklore.urban, as people try to locate exactly where these photos were taken. The scenery does look a lot like the midwest.

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Posted on Fri May 20, 2005



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What I find most amazing, is that almost three quarters of the pictures are not of tornados at all, but of mesocyclones.
Posted by Gilvain  on  Sun May 22, 2005  at  08:45 PM
There certainly is a place called Bunbury, in Western Australia - a small coastal town approx, 30,000 people and I live here ..........
We certainly did have a huge tornado here on Monday 16th May - and it did cause a lot of damage - including moving a cathedral off its foundations. The pictures you can see of house, business damage are definately real - I can give street addresses for these.
The pictures of the "actual" tornado ?? I don't believe these are local - for a start it was pitch dark (6.10 am) when it hit - and is only recorded as being 100m across but it did 'hit' a swath of damage along a 10Km 'stretch'. The "landscape" in those photo's is totally strange to me !!.
Posted by maureen  on  Sun May 22, 2005  at  11:29 PM
Damn strange weather we've been having lately. First it's water restrictions, now massive storms and tornados.
Posted by Soldant  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  01:18 AM
And despite the storms, we'll still be on water restrictions for the foreseeable future. The weather bureau is still saying that it's going to be a drier than average winter here in Perth.

And looking at this week's forecast, I'll believe it - no rain predicted until this time next week!
Posted by Smerk  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  01:31 AM
I work for the Western Australian Agriculture Department. One of the photos has an unfenced suger crop in it. bunbury has no sugar crops, and no unfenced crops. These ARE very fake.
Posted by tom  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  05:38 AM
I did a round up a while ago of storm photos that had been floating around that day

I put them together on a site so you can see the real storm...

http://www.t00l.net/storm/
Posted by t00l  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  07:36 AM
Okay, let me straighten some of you out, Otay? The Coriolis Effect refers to the effect of moving bodies in relation to the rotation of the Earth... that's all fine and dandy when we talk about the atmosphere, but we are talking about a downward, gravity-driven movement, turned into rotation not by the movement of the atmoshere in relation to the Earth's rotation, but by its relative latitudinal postion to the Earth's poles. It's a gravity-driven process, not a deflective process of the atmosphere. Damn. Read a book
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  05:21 PM
Okay, final clarification: The storm rotation? Coriolis Effect. Yes. Definately. The sink/drain rotation? Relative Latitude. Okay? Okay. Quiz on this tomorrow, so cram big-time. That's my motto: Cram It.
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  05:39 PM
harry are you sure? I just tried to look it up on the internet, here's some webpages I found:
http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/crls.rxml
and here's another one:
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/basics/coriolis-understanding.htm
there's a whole bunch by just googling "coriolis effect"
It's caused by a deflection process by the earth's rotation. Are you maybe thinking of tides?
Posted by Razela  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  08:27 PM
Or do I just not understand it at all. As I wrote in my first post on it, I can't pretend to be an expert, that's just the way I've always understood it. I could just be misinterpreting it.
Posted by Razela  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  08:28 PM
After living in the US for the best part of 2001 and growing up in Australia. Let me blow some myths for the US readers.
Kangaroos generally don't roam the streets of Australia.
Sydney is not the capital
The water spins in the opposite direction in Australia as it drains from sinks and toilets.
Posted by Karz  on  Mon May 23, 2005  at  10:40 PM
Hi, these are categorically NOT photos from the storm in Westerm Australia recently - apart from the fact that it is inconceivable that none of our parochial little media outlets (print or electronic) have run these photographs, I'd draw your attention to the vehicles in two of the photos - they're driving on the right-hand side of the road (we drive on the left)! Sorry guys, these ain't from here! Brian
Posted by Brian  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  08:50 PM
Bleeding heck, how many more times do we have to post this: The storm photos are a hoax--they are from the collection of 2004 storm photos on the Extreme Instability site. They were in Iowa, USA, not Bunbury, and can be seen in their original state here:

http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm
Posted by shel  on  Wed May 25, 2005  at  10:37 AM
Well, the corn is not setting, and the rapseed isn't flowering, because in Asutralia it is coming on to winter. They are a hoax, and great to look at!
Posted by anneebp  on  Wed May 25, 2005  at  09:47 PM
The tornado was real alright, there has been untold damage, but it has only effected some parts of the town.
I do agree that the above pictures are strange as I can not recognise any scenery.
Posted by Erik van Garderen  on  Thu May 26, 2005  at  08:48 AM
From the perspective of a storm chaser here in Texas, I would say that the several pictures I've seen of this particular "Bunbury Storm" appear to be different storms. I also believe these to be in the Midwest also. While I'm not very familiar with the geography of WESTERN AUSTRALIA, I'd say that the frontal boundary would have had to be very significant to cause the convection needed to generate a super cell like the one in these photos. Smaller storms can be tornadic too, but don't usually look like this one. The rotation is definately counter clockwise, which also suggests this was in the Northern Hemisphere, although, there was a storm a few years back in Paris TX I think, that actually rotated the oposite direction, so this can't be ruled out. The 6 or 7 photos I've seen appear to be at different times of the year (Harvest) and at different times of the day. Typically, the storm reaches maturity, does the damage and disipates rather rapidly. Although very rare, this storm appears to have a very long life especially as the meso-cyclone (wall cloud) is so close to the ground during broad daylight, and there is not much disipation between then and sunset. My vote is these are a couple of mid summer storms in the south central plains here in the US. Trust me, it's no honor to have one of these knocking on your door.
Posted by Mike Bartils  on  Thu May 26, 2005  at  11:50 PM
Hi everyone, i live in Mandurah WA and copped some pretty harsh effects from the storm, and looking at the supposed bunbury photos it would be rather cool to think that a storm like that passed over us, but i don't think so. It has been brought to my attention that a few cars in one of the photos are actually driving on the opposite road to what we do here in Australia. And i have spent a lot of time in Bunbury having grown up in the area, and that is not Bunbury landscape, not at all. They were cool pictures though
Posted by Emma  on  Sat May 28, 2005  at  07:18 AM
Hey, i also realised that after i posted my fact revealing letter, that someone has also ready mentioned the same facts as what i did. Lets just say, im sitting at home drinking Southern Comfort and having a hell of a blonde day. Cheers.
Posted by Emma  on  Sat May 28, 2005  at  07:20 AM
hello everyone i am from bunbury and there is only one of these photo that look remotely like "bunno"

one of these photos have a paddock and in the paddock is a nice big green crop of something. in bunbury we are not in the growing season yet and we are just about to seed which means put the seed in the ground now this crop in the photo looks like its ready to be harvested people dont believe these photos. bunbury is not like these at all
Posted by peta  on  Sun May 29, 2005  at  01:55 AM
Going from orientation of the road signs this has to be taken in America or some country where they drive on the right side of the road. That should put Australia out of the running.
Posted by TJ  on  Tue May 31, 2005  at  09:45 AM
Really awesome shots, but if this is anywhere near Bunbury W.A., then I'm a monkey's uncle. Try mid-west USA. Here's what I think gives it away....
- Lack of Australian scenery, in particular, gum trees
- American style barn with flagpole in frame 7
- reverse cyclonic rotation in the wall clouds and tornado (i.e., northern hemisphere) frames 3,4 and 8
- approaching car appears to be on wrong side of road in frame 2
- incorrect storm type, instead of a spring/summer supercell should have been a winter frontal system 〈cloud in frame 6 would be plausible if not for the scenery〉

I am familiar with the countryside near Bunbury and it is mostly well forested with hills in the distance, Tuart trees are a frequent large gum in the area, with plenty of Marri/Jarrah forest around. The flat coastal areas tend to peppermint and paperbark swamps. Bunbury itself is a reasonable sized city with a hill in the middle of it that you can see for miles around.
Posted by John Woodbridge  on  Thu Jun 09, 2005  at  08:11 PM
READ THE BLOODY THREAD!!! Sheeshhh and Bleeding heck, how many more times do we have to post this: The storm photos are a hoax--they are from the collection of 2004 storm photos on the Extreme Instability site. They were in Iowa, USA, not Bunbury, and can be seen in their original state here:

http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm
Posted by shel  on  Fri Jun 10, 2005  at  07:33 AM
Weighing in here after the gunfire has died down. Interesting to note that even though a single quick visit to the link posted by shel on May 21 established indisputable bona fides for the origin of these images, the debate continued for almost 3 more weeks. Maybe us humans are so easy to hoax cuz we likes it.
Posted by Rik Jonsson  on  Wed Jul 06, 2005  at  11:23 AM
Just from looking at the photos, I could tell they were the midwest:
Vehicles on the right side of the road
The street sign
The corn and soy bean crops
And it's flatter than $#@!

I'm moving back to Montana!
Posted by Fred  on  Mon Jul 25, 2005  at  06:11 PM
ok i live in bunbury, for starters... the storms went through about 6am. not after getting to werk at 8.30am. outside was darker during the day than in any of these pictures. and the landscapes, the only places near bunbury that are open spaces and full of grassed areas are the collie/brunswick hills areas. all not flat as in these pics. bloody top pictures, but as far as im concered every 1s been had.
Posted by Benno  on  Tue Aug 09, 2005  at  03:10 AM
READ THE THREAD. READ THE THREAD. READ THE THREAD.

As I said back in May.......
"Bleeding heck, how many more times do we have to post this: The storm photos are a hoax--they are from the collection of 2004 storm photos on the Extreme Instability site. They were in Iowa, USA, not Bunbury, and can be seen in their original state here:

http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm
Posted by shel on Wed May 25, 2005 at 08:37 AM"

_We_ haven't been had, _we_ know where they're from.

Shel.
Posted by shel  on  Tue Aug 09, 2005  at  03:27 AM
Actually . . . I posted the link to the original non-bunbury photos in this forum on May 21. Alas and alack, still we have debate . . . .
Posted by shel  on  Tue Aug 09, 2005  at  03:28 AM
Sorry, shel. People are dumb. And tend not to read what anyone else has posted.
*shrugs*
Posted by Boo  on  Tue Aug 09, 2005  at  05:21 AM
Hi,

Not only have these photographs been incorrectly circulated as a hoax under this name it has under other names as well unfortunately. And in one known case, it may have been submitted to one of the US channels incorrectly authored by someone in Texas. Mike Hollingshead has had to unfortunately come to terms with losing control of an absolutely awesome set of photographs.
Posted by Hail  on  Thu Aug 11, 2005  at  06:03 AM
Here they are again, this time in Canada....

Last Friday (Aug 18) a severe storm came through the Toronto area. We don't usually get storms that bad, so everyone was really impressed.

It took exactly 1 week for these photos to show up in my inbox with the caption, "Photos taken near Orangeville during last Friday's storm! Isn't nature amazing!?!" (Orangeville is in a rural area NW of Toronto.)

Where will they appear next? Anywhere but Iowa, no doubt.
Posted by Marbi  on  Fri Aug 26, 2005  at  05:03 PM
I first received these photos in early July, after Calgary and area had experienced days of rain and floods. The email's subject was "storms in Southern Alberta". I knew that these storms didn't happen here!! I just burst out laughing when I received them again in August, now titled "storms in Toronto area"! My friend at work received them the same week, titled "storms in Fergus and Barrie, Ontario".
Every time I receive an email now with a picture that seems too good to be true, I check with a hoax site first. I also send a link to either this site or snopes.com to the person who sent me the email....I wish people would be a bit more discriminating about what they forward.
Posted by Rena  on  Sun Aug 28, 2005  at  04:15 PM
Yep they've turned up again. I've just been sent this same set as being photos of Hurricane Katrina.
Posted by Marie  on  Thu Sep 15, 2005  at  05:52 AM
I stumbled across this forum whilst reseaching an apparant increase in Tornado's in Western Australia for a documentary I'm working on.

Allow me to settle the argument irrefutably.

The pictures in question cannot possibly be of the storms experienced in Bunbury WA on 16-05-2005, because the storms hit Bunbury and Metropolitan Perth BEFORE sunrise.

If however, anybody does have any pictures or footage of any tornado's in Western Australia (according to official burinformation, Perth experiences an average of 6 per year) then I would love to hear from you.

I can be contacted by email - .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Posted by Adam Lee  on  Mon Sep 19, 2005  at  07:47 AM
Adam, this issue has long ago, and in this very thread, been settled irrefutably, even down to identifying _exactly_ where the photos were taken, by whom, and when. To cut a long story short, earlier posts point you to:

http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm

wherein all is revealed.

regards,
Shel
Posted by shel  on  Mon Sep 19, 2005  at  09:31 AM
These pictures were taken in near Orangeville Ontario Canada by a friends sisters friend. As I got them exactly 2 days post the Tornado that hit the Orangeville/Erin / Toronto area on Aug 18th.
Posted by BL Price  on  Mon Sep 19, 2005  at  08:37 PM
I've now seen this doing the rounds as "Hurricane Katrina"
Posted by Claire  on  Fri Sep 23, 2005  at  10:22 PM
Media Watch (ABC) did a piece on it the other night. Not only did the W.A newspapers use Hollingshead's photos incorrectly, but I think the Herald & even the tv show Sunrise featured them. Talk about not doing your homework!
Posted by Storm near bunbury  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  07:24 PM
I'm not posting to refute where the photos actually came from. But to add something. About a month or a month and a half, my secretary showed me these pictures claiming they were the Orangeville tornado. I believed her until I got home and realized it was a hoax. I cannot believe that people STILL believe every fucking thing that comes into their inbox.
Posted by Howdumbcan you be  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  08:19 PM
:gulp: tell me more because i am doing a project on austrilian weather
Posted by Autumn  on  Tue Feb 07, 2006  at  05:13 PM
Ashley, this issue has long ago, and in this very thread, been settled irrefutably, even down to identifying _exactly_ where the photos were taken, by whom, and when. To cut a long story short, earlier posts point you to:

http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm

wherein all is revealed.

At least Aussies can establish facts for themselves without having to "wait until Snopes gets holds of this to know for sure".

regards,
Shel
Posted by shel  on  Wed Feb 08, 2006  at  02:55 AM
hahahah!!!
man did have a laugh when i seen those photos!! i live in bunbury and believe me if they hit us we wouldn't be on the map!!! it was a cyclone not a tornado!! honestly that's the sort of stuff we see in the cinemas!!
Posted by chloe carlin  on  Sat Mar 18, 2006  at  11:17 PM
..., but, and, .... in Australia do they travel generally NW to SE ?
Posted by sbcoleridge  on  Thu Mar 23, 2006  at  03:59 PM
Sbcoleridge, yes, they do. At least in Western Australia, where Bunbury is located.
Posted by Smerk  on  Thu Mar 23, 2006  at  05:30 PM
These photos are not of the storm that hit Settlers in Australind as the storm hit at night, early morning. So as theres plenty of daylight around the tornado photo's i think someones pulling our chains. Plus as a home owner in Australind i have never seen such storms like this during daylight hours.
Posted by James Green  on  Sat Aug 19, 2006  at  06:47 PM
James et al, this issue has died long ago, and in this very thread has been settled irrefutably, even down to identifying _exactly_ where the photos were taken, by whom, and when. To cut a long story short, earlier posts point you to:

http://extremeinstability.com/2004photos.htm

wherein all is revealed.

Trouble is, people don't seem to be in the habit of checking previous posts in a forum such as this before commenting 😊
Shel
Posted by Shel  on  Sat Aug 19, 2006  at  09:43 PM
i live in bunbury and there arnt anything like this.... it doesnt even rain much in bunbury who the hell said this is in bunbury aus?
Posted by jack  on  Thu Jul 17, 2008  at  07:00 AM
Crikey guys, how on earth any of you think these are from Bunbury is pure hogwash times infinity! Look Im telling you these photos are NOT (repeat NOT) from West Australia. I visit cuzzy bros there ALL the time and you can just tell by the light and the air in the photos they are obviously from America not from West Australia!
Posted by Graham  on  Fri Jun 05, 2009  at  01:58 AM
Bloody heck . . . Graham, look at the dates of the posts to which you refer, and read at least my post a couple above yours . . . . we know where they are from, and have done for years now, hence this thread sorta dying out (until you kicked it into a semblance of life again) 😊
Posted by shel  on  Fri Jun 05, 2009  at  04:14 AM
Crikey Shel, honestly I have cuzzy bros live there and I can tell you for a fact that aint bunbury you just need to look at the clouds and air!

iTS PURE HOGWASH! I would say the photos are from America and someone on the Internet just said they were from Bunbury.
Posted by Graham in Rotorua  on  Tue Jun 09, 2009  at  12:17 AM
Do yous believe me now? I telling you, this aint bunbury. I been there! This bunbury no it aint, no siree!!!

Bunbury is by the ocean. I cant see no ocea in this pictures, can you??? See??

Well, even if maybe the camera was pointing away from the ocean you dont get big clouds like this ones by the ocean. Ask any weather man this and you will know.
Posted by Graham in Rotorua  on  Mon Sep 14, 2009  at  02:57 AM
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