The "outrage" is not as fake as you might think... I regularly monitor the "Point Of View" radio program, which I would characterize as Evangalist Christian Propaganda, exploited by the NepCon White House (But, Hey- That's just my Opinion). The POV program today, 5/20, featured a guest who characterized Star Wars as spreading Toaist and Buddhist dogma, at the expense of Christianity, even belittling SW attendees as lame, for find spirituality in SW, and not at their Evangalist altars. Some scary people in high places. May the Farts be With You

Correctuion: I meant NeOcons, not NePcons, whatever the hell that is. Help me, Oboy I Wanna Doobie, you're my only Pope

Correction Redux: I didn't mean to add a "U" in the word "correction" in my above post. "U" should be in a theater tonight, watching Star Wars III. Yes, enjoy it, you will

No, thanks, Hairy. I grew out of that phase along time, ago. Thought you would have, too, but thnaks for the challenge or invite, whatever. And these pseudo-fundamentalists look like just another scam to part people from their money, even if it's a thinly-veiled hoax. Good farts joke, though,bud. Save a toke for me.

You're writing another book, Alex? That's great news, I loved the first one! What's it gonna be about?

Alex, you tell us all that irrelevant stuff about you and your wife seeing Star Wars III (or whatever numer it is), while skipping the topic of this discussion.
So, when you came out after seeing it, did you or did you not find yourselves damned for all time?

Star Wars is a satanic tool?

Well, I'm not going to argue that watching those flicks makes us more godly or better citizens or anything (especially after I called the Star wars series "a tenth-rate Sci-Fi retread," or something similar, here the other day).
But if anybody really finds Star Wars movies more evil than "Pulp Fiction," or "Halloween 497" (or whatever sequel that series is on now), or anything with Bruce Willis, Schwarzenwhosis, or Demi Moore in it, they should go back to stuff they can understand, like outing gay Teletubbies.

I took my husband to see it this weekend. Show started at 10:30p, but we were there at 9:30...we assumed the line would be long early. We were dead wrong. We would have been first in line, but I told my husband that under no circumstances was I standing first in line. We sat on a bench nearby and waited. When we got in line, we were the last in a line of about 30 people. It didn't get much bigger in the 20 minutes we were there. It was a full theater w/ straggler in at 10:25...but if we'd gotten there at 10, we still could have gotten decent seats.
***possible spoiler*** (Well, it might spoil something if you've been living under a rock since 1977)

I'm just glad it's over with...BUT...as a mom, I can't believe the bitch lost her will to live over her stupid evil husband. My husband could become the Lord of everything that is evil one day...and the next day I'd be packin' up the kid and moving back into my mom's. It is obvious this was written by a MAN.

I get a bit annoyed when people refer to the Star Wars series as science fiction. Just because they have space ships and robots does not make it science fiction.
Analog Science Fiction Magazine defines it as:

"Stories in which some aspect of future science or technology is so integral to the plot that, if that aspect were removed, the story would collapse."

That definition removes Star Wars from the genre. In fact it is really a western; nothing more than a remake of "Shootout At The O.K. Corral".

I'm afraid my definition of science fiction doesn't come from Analog. If anything, Star Wars is classic swords & sorcery fantasy. Of course, some things are hard to contain within a set genre.

"Science fiction", you mean it's not real

It was Hugo Gernsback, editor of Amazing Magazine and others who coined the term Science Fiction, actually as "Scienti-Fiction". Many Sword-and Sorcery stories also have a "Western" style plot. As a matter of fact, Robert E. Howard rewrote many of his early Western pulp mag stories as Sword and Sorcery epics, as in "Conan". Westerns, operas, whatever: everything is derivative, nothing is original. Nothing

I was out there at this time, and that guy in front of the "protestors" is not mad, but a crazy beggar. Note he has a cup in his left hand and an action figure in his right. He was shouting that he "knew" then ending of star wars and started screaming nonsense. It was almost as bizarre as the "protesters."

I once saw a pamphlet from the Southwest Radio Church that mentioned the Taoist connection - and the fact that E.T. was the anti-christ foisted on the world by a Jew - Mr. Speilberg. This protest is only slightly funnier.

Bill

"as a mom, I can't believe the bitch lost her will to live over her stupid evil husband." - It is because you are not a princess.
Actually by sacrificing her life she protected children from father's influence.
Also she would not have any even small chance be alive and escape his full control over her.

It's funny, but the "views" presented on this site are not so far from those of the religous zealots I know. Newsflash: Star Wars is about the battle betwen good *and* evil. The Bible contains stories about evil men, demons, mediums, murder, incest, and Satan himslef, but does this make the Bible evil?

That, said, I think the site is somewhat offensive, as it uses quoted scripture and images of Jesus. I suppose if you're an athiest, it doesn't matter.

BTW, if Star Wars isn't Science Fiction, then what is? Are you telling me that Hyperspace travel (just one of many many examples) is not based on a scientific idea but one that is fiction? The term Science Fiction has come to encompass alot of genres (including fantasy), even though they may not be overloaded with geeky scienctific introspection.

That's it you tell like it is Seth or should that be Sith. The slight change of name, doesn't fool me.

Star Wars isn't science fiction, it's science (or space) fantasy. Yes, it is like a western in parts (the Mos Eisley saloon - I mean cantina)& in other parts we have kindly wizards like Obi-Wan & evil wizards like Darth Vader, the evil ones with their armies of minions (stormtroopers), & young farm-boys who become heroes. All the classic ingredients of fantasy. That was the idea; George Lucas was tired of the "isn't-it-terrible-what-is-happening-to-us" films at the time & wanted to make a fun film like the serials he had enjoyed as a child. He tried to sell it to Universal but they weren't interested, but Fox took a chance on it. Universal said "Oops" & rushed out "Rattlestar Galaxative."
Thus ST is fantasy, in my view, & is set in space (largely). So it is a space fantasy.

Dale wrote: "George Lucas was tired of the 'isn't-it-terrible-what-is-happening-to-us' films at the time & wanted to make a fun film like the serials he had enjoyed as a child."

Actually, Star Wars is a rip-off of a movie called "The Hidden Fortress" ("Kakushi toride no san akunin") by the great Japanese director Akira Kurosawa.

Westerns are the other genre to rip off Kurosawa's films. The spaghetti western genre of the 1960-70s was born from remakes of Kurosawa's samurai films. Popular titles: "The Magnificent Seven" was inspired by "Shichinin no samurai" or "The Seven Samurai"; "Fistful of Dollars" ("Yojimbo"), which was remade again as "Last Man Standing"; "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" ("Sanjuro").

Lucas denied that Kurosawa was the inspiration for Star Wars for a long time. This worked for a while. In 1978, access to Japanese films were rare and the American viewing public simply didn't know the original work. Then Trivial Pursuit and film trivia became the rage. Film is now a legitimate college course, and Kurosawa's films are available on DVD. Harder to deny the easily seen similarities now.

Lucas reluctantly admitted the source of his inspiration. It's also clear that Lucas was influenced both by the original film and other adaptations of Kurosawa's work that became the Spaghetti Westerns. This is why Star Wars resembles a western.

IMDB.com's trivia under Star Wars notes: "Star Wars was, in part, inspired by Akira Kurosawa's 'Kakushi toride no san akunin' (1958), which was itself inspired by 'William Shakespeare's 'King Lear'."

Consider also the consultation with Joseph Campbell, an authority on the power of mythology and myth influences. Star Wars is built around mythic elements. It's part western, part greek myth, part samurai film, part Shakespeare.

I'm not a Star Wars junkie, for the record. I'm working on a master's in film. One of my areas of interest is the influence of classic mythology on storytelling -- star wars is a prime example.

You bet.
Star Wars is antichristian, Lucas calls christians of Sith. There's spiritualism, pantheism, buddhism, gnosticism, and others "isms".
Star Wars =(

Lol... the force is a lot better religion than christianity... or any of those other kinds that based off of the big J and his father... XD

Force is much more heavilly based on asian religions... and in general, those are just better... and tend to not be such arses to people that don't believe them.

funny your post, hairy houdini, considering your handle mimics a persons name who was know to practice black majik and satanism.

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