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Return of the Jedi: New Ending
image Here's something that's causing serious Star Wars fans to roll their eyes in disgust. The rumor going around is that in the upcoming DVD release of the Star Wars series, George Lucas has altered the ending of Return of the Jedi (Episode VI) so that Hayden Christensen has replaced Sebastian Shaw in the final scene that shows the ghosts of Darth Vader, Yoda, and Obi wan Kenobi standing together. As some have pointed out, this doesn't make sense because why would Darth Vader's ghost be young, while the ghosts of Yoda and Obi wan are both old? Nevertheless, there's photographic evidence to back up the rumor, as well as a film clip hosted over at Waxy.org. If it's a hoax, someone has put a bit of effort into manufacturing these altered scenes.
Categories: Entertainment
Posted by The Curator on Tue Aug 03, 2004
Comments (129)
I actually don't mind so much that Lucas changed the ending "ghost" scene of ROTJ, if that is the way he sees it then so be it. However, why the heck couldn't he actually release the DVDs with both versions on them. Many, many other movies release DVDs with "the original theatrical version" and "the director's cut" on them, why not these? I have a feeling the uber-greed of Lucas has gotten the better of us and you will find the originals eventually released, just like how PM widescreen came out on video b4 the DVDs. You gotta admit the guy knows how to squeeze every last buck out of the fans.
Posted by JAR  in  Coventry, RI  on  Sun May 22, 2005  at  01:59 AM
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finally people get the reason lucas did this...
i imagine if hayden was 20 something in 83 and he knew hayden would be in the prequels then he would have used him then too. i honestly think the actor he used for anakin in the OG ROTJ was a stupid idea anyway.

BTW: EP3 ownes.
Posted by J-Mizzle  in  naboo  on  Sun May 22, 2005  at  09:10 AM
i think that obi wan, like most of the other jedi, was trained by yoda as a youngling in a clan and when he reached the right age he became qui gons apprentice. so actually he was trained by both. check this nerd out
Posted by james  in  uk  on  Sun May 22, 2005  at  06:00 PM
i dont get it.. i thought there were only 3 star wars movies out but whys everyone talking about episode 6???
Posted by jar  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  02:37 PM
*sigh*

There was episodes 4-6 (A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi) between 1979 and 1986.

Recently, there have been episodes 1-3.
Posted by Boo  in  The Land of the Haggii...  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:08 PM
oh, are they going to remake them?
Posted by jar  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:20 PM
The rumor going around is that in the upcoming DVD release of the Star Wars series, George Lucas has altered the ending of Return of the Jedi (Episode VI) so that Hayden Christensen has replaced Sebastian Shaw in the final scene that shows the ghosts of Darth Vader, Yoda, and Obi wan Kenobi standing together

From the original entry.
So it's just the DVD release. I assume that this is when they release the whole lot as a set.
Posted by Boo  in  The Land of the Haggii...  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:22 PM
so the old movies are gonna carry on from the new ones? wouldnt that look wrong?
Posted by jar  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:33 PM
Um, I'm not sure if I get what you mean.
If it's that the older ones are set later in the Star Wars universe, yes.
The more recent three are prequels.
Posted by Boo  in  The Land of the Haggii...  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:36 PM
well like if the old movies filmed 20 years ago are carrying on from these new ones wont it look odd.. all the characters wil be different and the effects wont be near as good..
Posted by jar  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:50 PM
In what way different? There's quite a time gap between where episode three finishes and episode four starts, remember. People who were children are now adults, people who were young (I'm thinking of Obi Wan here) will be old...

True, the effects are more old-fashioned, but George Lucas always intended to make episodes 4-6 first, then go back to the prequels. Plus there's areas where they have updated the originals with more high-tech computer effects.
Posted by Boo  in  The Land of the Haggii...  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  03:57 PM
oh ok cool,
thanks then :>
Posted by jar  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  05:26 PM
No problem.
smile
Posted by Boo  in  The Land of the Haggii...  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  05:59 PM
well if u guyz watch EP III when anakin turned into the robot he was still young, if u think about it ROBOTS don't agE!!! so therefore he looks the same!!!,

for the scene where he takes off his mask it makes sense coz he face probably melted and stuff so meh
Posted by dude  on  Sat May 28, 2005  at  03:11 AM
i thought there was an uncanny resemblance between Hayden and the Anakin at the end of return of the jedi. I have been amazed for days but thanks for explaining it. i don't know which i would prefer sebastian or hayden. Its a great ending still though,if a bit wierd ages wise. It make sense and carries on well from the prequels. It seems a shame to edit he old ones though. Perhaps they should have been left as they were, sorry to sound so cheesy but now the originals have been lost forever. Shame really, maybe they should bring out an unedited version. i dunno, they could have at least explained the trilogy had been edited, to be honest i never noticed,being 7yrs since i last saw them but it was a bit wierd. I dunno. i better shut up. It will take me a week to make up my mind. Ad they could have changed the credits at the end to hayden christensen but maybe leave sebastians name too. it made me confused.
Posted by Deirdre  on  Sun May 29, 2005  at  10:02 AM
I think it is a tribute to the orginal anakin either that or they were too lazy to edit the end credits
Posted by Darth Sion  on  Mon May 30, 2005  at  09:47 AM
well if u guyz watch EP III when anakin turned into the robot he was still young, if u think about it ROBOTS don't agE!!! so therefore he looks the same!!!



uh...... He is not a robot, he merely needs the life support suit to live. Remember, the name Darth Vader has nothing to do with the black suit he wears, he only wears that because he has to.

Anyways, I disagree with them reamking the ending with Hayden as the ghost of Anakin, ans here is why. Anakin does indeed "die" (not phyiscally) in Episode III when he turns to the dark side, and becomes the dreaded darth vader. However, Darth Vader dies (not physically) the moment he kills the Emperor and saves Luke's life. The man who dies next to Luke's X wing with his helmet is off is NOT Darth Vader, but Anakin Skywalker who had returned to the Skywalker. So when Anakin physically dies, it is not Vader who is dying, but Anakin dying. So for those saying "well it needs to be hayden so it reflects that its Anakian!" that really is not correct. Hayden Christianson merely portrays Anakin Skywalker when he is about 19 years old. But Anakin physically dies when he is about 40 (since eps 4-6 take place about 20 years after Episode 3) so obviously Anakin should be portrayed by someone who looks that aqe and looks like he could be Luke's father. He is supposed to luke the same as the scarred Anakin we see at the end of ROTJ right before he dies, except with no scarring, so its basically how he would look at that age had he not had fallen into the lava. So yeah, anyways it was an unecessary change, since, as I stated, the old Anakin (Sebastain Shaw) relects what Anakin looked like that age, and also reflects the Anakin Skywalker that killed the Emperor, saved luke, returned to the light side, and who ultimately brought balance to the force.
Posted by Ryan  in  CA  on  Mon May 30, 2005  at  05:16 PM
blah lol sorry about some of the typo's in my message I typed it pretty fast..... so i'll repost it.


well if u guyz watch EP III when anakin turned into the robot he was still young, if u think about it ROBOTS don't agE!!! so therefore he looks the same!!!



Uh...... he is not a robot, he merely needs the life support suit to live. Remember, the name Darth Vader has nothing to do with the black suit he wears, he only wears that because he has to. And he DOES indeed age and get older, we just don't see it (untill the end of ROTJ, of course) because he has the suit on, thus we cannot see what he looks like underneath. ...... but honestly, how could anyone think he doesnt age ? Of course he still ages, he may look like a machine on the outside, but he is still a human being.


Anyways, I disagree with them remaking the ending with Hayden as the ghost of Anakin, and here is why. Anakin does indeed "die" (not physically) in Episode III when he turns to the dark side, and becomes the dreaded Darth Vader. However, Darth Vader dies (not physically) the moment he kills the Emperor and saves Luke's life. The man who dies next to Luke's X wing with his helmet off is NOT Darth Vader, but Anakin Skywalker who had returned to the light side. So when Anakin physically dies, it is not Vader who is dying, but Anakin dying. So for those saying "well it needs to be hayden so it reflects that it's Anakin!" that really is not correct. Hayden Christensen merely portrays Anakin Skywalker when he is about 19 years old. But Anakin physically dies when he is about 40 (since eps 4-6 take place about 20 years after Episode 3) so obviously Anakin should be portrayed by someone who looks that age and looks like he could be Luke's father. He is supposed to look the same as the scarred Anakin we see at the end of ROTJ right before he dies, except with no scarring, so its basically how he would look at that age had he not fallen into the lava. So yeah, anyways it was an unecessary change, since, as I stated, the old Anakin (Shaw) relects what Anakin looked like at that age, and also reflects the Anakin Skywalker that killed the Emperor, saved Luke, returned to the light side, and who ultimately brought balance to the force.
Posted by Ryan_1416  on  Mon May 30, 2005  at  05:41 PM
get over it already, bitching wont change a damn thing.
GL dosent give a fuck what you all think.

PENIS!!!!
Posted by darth ballz  on  Mon May 30, 2005  at  06:06 PM
Wow what a intelligent post..... not. Anyways, I know that what we say doesn't change anything. That doesn't mean we can't discuss the subject and give our opinions, and present logical reasons for our opinions.
Posted by Ryan_1416  on  Mon May 30, 2005  at  06:21 PM
Let's put thefacts down on the table hear. In ROTS (Ep. III) you see that anakin is burned alive right? Of course he is. The main reason why Lucas changed the ending is to show how Anakin was before. Here is the facts. When a jedi die or in Anakins case turns to the dark side, only the knowledge of the jedi is being controlled not the SPIRIT. These are the spirits of who they were once before. The changes aren't so bad but the alternate ending is perfect for ending the bi-trilogy. The ending shows how Anakin was before. That there can be the reason for the ending.
Posted by Anakin  on  Tue May 31, 2005  at  03:03 AM
There's only one problem, Ryan. Sebastian Shaw was *seventy-eight* at the time of ROTJ, according to the Internet Movie Database. Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, according to the official Star Wars timeline, was only forty-five! To me, leaving in Sebastian Shaw just made no sense. Okay, for sentimental reasons, I can understand wanting the original preserved. But, Christiansen wasn't in the SE that was put out on video. There are plenty of copies of the original with Shaw. I guess to be absolutely sure of continuity he could have found a forty something actor...or dyed Christiansen's hair gray. Personally, I like the metaphysical explanation, even if it doesn't quite fit.

I also agree that the original Ewok song in the original movie was better.
Posted by Psi Fi  on  Wed Jun 01, 2005  at  01:33 AM
Personally i'm glad that they have changed it. I'm only 15, just finished watching the original version for the second time and i got confused at the end, i couldnt tell if the ghost was meant to be Darth Vader. You have to bear in mind that these DVD's have been released for my generation who might not have seen the films before, and that for us it is much less confusing to show us the Anakin that we know.
Posted by confused  on  Wed Jun 01, 2005  at  11:00 AM
I was ok with the new Anakin. But - I have a question. If Lucas was going to replace Anakin in ROTJ, why didn't he just make Hayden Christensen look like he was in his late 40s? What about make up?
Posted by Star Wars Fan  on  Wed Jun 01, 2005  at  04:21 PM
Here's a tip for everyone, regardless of whether you like the Special Edition or DVD versions. I happen to thoroughly enjoy the DVD versions now that I have seen Epi. 1-3, but I also really wish the DVDs had an option to view the original releases.

I'm not sure how much the software costs (possibly expensive) but my buddy can rip VHS tapes, turn them into computer files, then burn them to DVD. I have the black-case VHS releases (the "restored" version, different from the gold-case VHS "Special Edition" version) and had him burn me DVDs of the original movies. These tapes are not too old (in Star Wars terms) and make for great DVD transfers. You aren't violating any copyright terms as long as you are only making a copy for yourself. If you are SUPER creative you can print up a spiffy retro DVD cover for these, but one way or another they are a great addition to your Star Wars DVD collection. This may be a way to satisfy the craving until Lucas releases the inevitable "Theatrical Release" DVD set.

One can only hope that George will have the guts to include the two Ewok movies and the little-known 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special. You all know about the Star Wars Holiday Special, right?!
Posted by Scooter  in  Dallas  on  Wed Jun 01, 2005  at  11:32 PM
Psi Fi you are right about that...... he did look to old to be Anakin, I always thought that, since Anakin is supposed to be about 45 or so. That is one thing I don't get is why they used him, instead of someone who actually looked like they where 45. Other then that though, I think the ending is still better showing Anakin how he looks at that part of his life, rather than he he looked back when he was 19.
Posted by Ryan_1416  on  Thu Jun 02, 2005  at  01:10 AM
I'm not sure. I think originally Lucas was trying to make Anakin appear to be the same age as Obi-wan. I don't think Lucas knew how old Anakin was in ROTJ, until he wrote TPM. Maybe he should have gotten a forty something actor instead of Christiansen, but I still think people would be confused. What do you think of the idea of aging Christiansen to look forty-five? Or, alternatively, what actor would you recommend to play Anakin instead of Shaw?
Posted by Psi Fi  on  Thu Jun 02, 2005  at  01:46 AM
When someone dies, the age they appeared at death might be the age they would appear afterwards. It would not make sense to have Hayden Christensen appear as the young Anakin Skywalker as it would seem
that Darth Vader is a young man in ther next life. I
also preferred the original ending with Sebastian Shaw as the middle aged Darth Vader. (David Prowse
played Darth Vader in the uniform and mask as well as unmasked.) Maybe George Lucas wanted a new take on the original trilogoy, but I preferred the origiinal
ending to remain the way it was.
Posted by matt n.  in  vienna, va.  on  Sun Jun 05, 2005  at  12:58 AM
But, Sebastian Shaw wasn't middle aged. He was seventy-eight! He was *far* too old to be a realistic Anakin Skywalker. Anyway, a soul doesn't necessarily have to have the appearance of the physical body when it dies. Maybe Anakin looked young, cause that's how he conceived of himself...the young man Anakin freed from the aged and evil Darth Vader. I think replacing Shaw was necessary, based on the timeline now set by the prequel trilogy...although I will concede that replacing him with a forty something actor might have made more sense, for some.
Posted by Psi Fi  on  Sun Jun 05, 2005  at  10:27 PM
Come'on guys! Who cares what was altered or not. This is just a film and it's supposed to be entertaining. I personally will not waste time on why Anakin is old or young becuase it's only a film.
Posted by Chewy  in  Desert  on  Mon Jun 06, 2005  at  02:50 AM
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