Ronaldinho Nike Ad

Status: Undetermined (but I'm guessing fake)
image Nike has a new ad featuring Brazilian soccer star Ronaldinho Gaucho. In the ad Ronaldinho puts on a pair of Nikes, juggles the ball a few times, and then kicks the ball towards the goal so that it hits the crossbar and bounces directly back to him. He does this four times in a row. And it's all shot in a single take. This has inspired a lot of discussion on the net, because it's hard to believe anyone could be skilled enough to do this. In an article posted on the BBC (in Portuguese... I read it via AltaVista Translate) Ronaldinho swears that the scene is real, although the reporters interviewing him refuse to believe him. Given that it's an ad, I would assume it's fake, since one should always assume that what you see in ads is bogus, unless it's proven otherwise.

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Posted on Mon Dec 05, 2005



Comments

Of course, if he was actually trying to get the ball into the goal, then it wouldn't be such a great display of skill after all. . .

"Dang it! Four tries in a row and he still can't make a goal! And we're all out of film! Oh well, we'll just go with what we've got."
Posted by Accipiter  on  Mon Dec 05, 2005  at  10:17 PM
I don't know if total skepticism is warranted here, especially if the star of the commercial says it's real. There was a Tiger Woods ad where he juggles a golf ball with a golf club. That ad turned out to be real though it certainly didn't look so, and it just took a lot of takes to get the one that was used.
Posted by J  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  02:33 AM
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Posted by Harald Grausam  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  02:41 AM
Nop!
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Posted by Brz  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  07:14 AM
Isn't this like the powerade commercials where Mike Vick throws a football out of the stadium, and Lebron James makes about two or three 3/4 court shots in a row?

Sorry, don't think any soccer player could hit the cross bar that many times from that distance.
Posted by coit  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  09:37 AM
I can do that on any given day.....lol
Posted by X  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  10:45 AM
I would think it's fake... If it were real, I'm sure the cameraman wouldnt conveniently back away from the field like he did. I mean, when the ball hits the crossbar, you can barely see it anymore.
Posted by Andrew  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  02:01 PM
With over 50 years watching football:
1) In the 1940's and even into the 1950's, players used to bet on who hitted the POSTS/CROSSBARS more times during a match, just to get the public "excited". The most they got was three to five per game.
2) Ronaldinho has super skills, but ...
3) ... with ROUND posts/crossbar it is close to impossible to return four consecutive shots back to him. It is a matter of a fraction of an inch variance ...
Square posts/crossbar may still exist. Then, it will be just impossible for that to happen due to the "flat" (right) angles.
4) There is a giver, kind of intentionally suggested at the end: the sound track ... watch and listen carefully.

My vote: I love Ronaldinho, but it is fake, at least part of it.

Thank you!
Posted by The Legend  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  05:37 PM
The juggling a golf ball on a club is not big deal I have a friend that can do that, but as for this the guy saying himself that it was real means nothing. That just means he wants to make himself look even better than he is.
Posted by tim  on  Wed Dec 07, 2005  at  08:32 AM
The Celtic player Jimmy "Jinky" Johnston whilst warming up for a league game in the 1970's was seen to do something very similar. Whilst in front of the opposing fans, he placed the ball in the area and took a shot at goal. When he hit the bar and the ball bounced back to him, all the fans jeered and laughed to much delight. He then placed the ball in the exact same place and proceeded to do this feat another three times, now to the rapturous applause of the opposition's fans. This man would have made it in any team.
Posted by sconny botland  on  Fri Dec 09, 2005  at  07:18 AM
You guys obviously underestimate the skill that these players have, as well as don't follow soccer too closely.

For example...quite a long time ago 2 teams were playing a match, and one of the greats (i wanna say pele) was in the game. He was given a free kick, with which he placed on goal, and it hit the upper nintey (literally, hit the bend in the post). He was discouraged and later got yet another free kick at around the same place. He once again, placed it right on the upper ninety. He told the refs that the goal was not regulation sized, they measured the goal, and indeed it was smaller than regulation. That just shows how much practice goes into these skills the players have. If someone puts forth the practice, and knows exactly what a perfect shot feels like, to the point that they can tell when a goal is not of regulation size, then I think this Ronaldinho commercial is quite believeable. I do agree with whomever above me saying that the crossbar is round, which it is, which owuld make it very difficult, but i would not put it past some of the players to day. Soccer is there likfe. They've been playing for years and years.

Take into consideration, those of you that have jobs. I'm sure your jobs take some kind of expertise, and you can tell when something isn't right. Well, soccer is these guys job. That's all they do, besides indorsement commericals. If you played soccer day in and day out for 10 years straight, and even before that played regularly, you would become extraodinary, to the point that it is hard for people some people to disbelieve.

I, myself, believe that the video is real.
Posted by Soccerman  on  Mon Dec 19, 2005  at  08:07 PM
sorry but it's done with cgi.
here is a capture from the video:

Posted by arizona45  on  Sun Jan 01, 2006  at  11:07 AM
Hey arizona45, that shot isn't in the video, at least not in the video on youtube.com. looks like you painted the nike ad over the ball yourself.

why the debate if nike admitted only two were real?

as for the Tiger ad (post #2), that was only the 2nd or 3rd take.
Posted by david  on  Sun Jan 08, 2006  at  05:20 PM
FC Barcelona
I am Messi of the Barcelona team. And I am gravely disappointed with the dibelief everyone has for the Ronaldinho. I have watched Ronaldinho play in practice and have learned some stuff from him. We played this game called Retribul, where we hit targets after every training, and the crossbar is a vary logical target, even the poles that hang the spanish flag we hit balls off of. Ronaldinho can hit the ball off the crossbar 9 times in row by volley, 14 times in a row by spot kick 30 yrds out. I can do almost the same, with repetition comes Perfection....
FC Barcelona
Posted by Messi  on  Tue Jan 10, 2006  at  01:14 PM
I believe in Ronaldinho, since he can do something unbelieveable. So, I believe that the trick is real.
Posted by lalzarzova  on  Tue Jan 17, 2006  at  11:21 PM
It's great, it's great, it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,it's great,and its RONALDINHO
Posted by lalzarzova  on  Tue Jan 17, 2006  at  11:22 PM
Yea..sure "Messi" your english is so good. Man, speak spanish and send me a tape of you speaking it.

As for the video, it's a fake, you can clearly see it in the ball.
Posted by Gio  on  Thu Jan 26, 2006  at  05:26 PM
always
Posted by aman  on  Wed Feb 08, 2006  at  03:38 AM
ya i do agree with soccerman.u people some times doubt wat a player can do and ronaldinho is not a small player.he is the greatest and will go down in the history as the top 3 players in the world.i have heard many people say that the ad is fake .common man.the camera was taken back so that the total view can be seen.if it was not taken back then u all would not have been able to see the ball hiting and cuming back.and ronadinho himself have said that it was not fake.loveronaldinho love football and not soccer.i hate people saying soccer.
Posted by ken 4 faps  on  Fri Feb 10, 2006  at  04:26 AM
I can believe either way, fake or not fake. But as far as that screen capture goes, that doesn't prove that the ball is a fake, all it proves is that nike used cgi to cover up whatever advertisements were already there and they accidentally covered part of the ball. You'll notice that you can see the original advertisement's red color on the right side of the Nike advert.
Posted by 911isajoke  on  Thu Mar 02, 2006  at  08:06 PM
you cannot dispute the works of a master.ronaldinho is a master and is extremely good.
Posted by elvis dhlandhlara  on  Fri Mar 03, 2006  at  03:29 AM
Guys, Ronaldinho is an awesome player and I do not question his skills, however anybody who has played the game would know the level of precision required to achieve something like this. I have no doubt that on separate takes, he can do just what the clip shows and put together its what we see. However I not so sure it can be done 4 times in a row. For me what gives it away is the speed of the ball. From the moment it leaves his foot to the moment it returns back to him, it does not seem to loose any momentum and seems to have an uniform speed. That my friends, defies the laws of physics, just like Ronaldinho defies the boundaries of what is possible in football 😉
Posted by tuism  on  Mon Mar 20, 2006  at  11:45 PM
the boy real GOOD on doubt about it check his earlier years.he s also the best thing since PELE(THE GOD OF FOOTBALL).brazil still continues to produce the best players for example jean carlos he s 14-16yrs old by now and he can rival ronaldinho in the near feature
Posted by simplysmoothe  on  Sat Mar 25, 2006  at  12:32 PM
I've been playing ball for 27 years now; certainly not at Ronaldinho's level, but I have enough experience (as do several of you) to know that what is depicted in the video is very unlikely. Yes, Ronaldinho is amazing - my favorite player. But still. As mentioned above, it would be astronomically unlikely to hit the round crossbar in such a way, consecutively, to return the ball. I saw a second video showing how there was a guy using a prop - a soccer ball attached to a long pole. The prop guy (in an all-green material outfit) would simulate the ball hitting off the crossbar, it would return to Ronaldinho, who would then pretend to kick it, where the process would repeat. It is implied that the prop guy and the pole attached to the ball were later airbrushed out. With modern technology it's hard to tell what might be legit or spoofed.
Posted by Rastaman  on  Thu Mar 30, 2006  at  07:45 AM
Ronaldiho is right because he does what's impossible
Posted by ali  on  Fri Mar 31, 2006  at  04:00 AM
i believe in ronaldinho. He can do more than this.




my vote: true
Posted by ali  on  Fri Mar 31, 2006  at  04:06 AM
The key point is the one raised previously about getting the ball to come back to him.

I can completely believe that he can hit the crossbar four times in a row. For a player of his quality that is not in doubt. However, beause crossbars are round the ball bounces off at different angles and speeds. On each occassion he barely moves in order to collect the ball as it returns to him. Getting the ball to bounce back to the same spot four times in a row is impossible.

I think what they've done is set up a ball cannon behind the goal that will fire balls to where he is standing. Then he kicks the ball towards the cross bar, probably hitting it because he's great. Another ball is then fired from behind the goal. The original ball is removed from the shot as is the ball cannon.

I'm not taking anything away from him. He is the second best player in the world (Thierry Henry being the best) and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he juggled each new ball that was fired to him from the cannon then hit the cross-bar with it. It is just that the woodwork is always unpredictable and it never bounces back to where you expect it to.
Posted by Gooner Pete  on  Fri Mar 31, 2006  at  04:49 AM
When he was a kid George Best used to practise his shooting by aiming to hit the bar - so he wouldn't have to chase the ball every time he took a shot. Ronaldinho's natural ability exceeds that of any player I have seen - Best and Maradona included - if anyone can perfrom a feat like this, he can.
Posted by JC  on  Tue Apr 11, 2006  at  04:27 PM
although I don't doubt a player's ability to hit a crossbar(i can usually do it from about 25-30 yrds out), I've been playing soccer on round posts for about 18 years now and very VERY few balls hit off of a round cross bar and have that kind of arch to come back to a player...Ive seen it done (and ive done it) but four in a row is just unrealistic

also...nike admited that ronaldinho made 2 shots off the cross bar successrully but didnt say anything about the ball returning, or ronalidinho catching it and continuing to juggle



and...why would nike say that the kid made 2 when ronaldinho said he made all ovem???

the answer...they never specified..look into it

oh and...soccer...football...its a word..get over yourself ken
Posted by Apalm  on  Tue Apr 18, 2006  at  12:16 AM
This is pretty much a dead thread, but I figured I show a video I found of someone doing just what Tiger did...The point made is that nothing is difficult if you know how to do it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5374114358571920512&q=tiger+woods&pl=true
Posted by TD  on  Fri Apr 21, 2006  at  03:21 PM
no1 doubts his skills but noway is that real. maybe he hit it a cople of times which is spectacular anyway. But we will see how good he is because ENGLAND gonna win the world cup
Posted by chillies  on  Sun Apr 23, 2006  at  05:27 PM
love is blind...
this is how the trick was done, it's all special effects, sorry to spoil your fun, i guess star trek is real too ;P
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/66445/ronaldinho_gaucho_nike_shoes_trick_revealed/
Posted by FX DUDE  on  Thu Apr 27, 2006  at  10:48 AM
I dont think its done with a pole, the ball moves far too fast for someone to 'simulate' a ball being kicked and juggled.
But look closely, you can clearly see when he kicks the ball, halfway through its flight it turns into a blatant CGI ball, and its trajectory changes, probably only slight to make it appear to hit the bar cleanly, then i think he gets another real ball thrown at him from the goal, so it looks real.
Watch the first kick carefully, before the camera man zooms out, the ball certainly changes to CGI!
Posted by dooby  on  Sat May 06, 2006  at  07:25 PM
a hink ronaldinos sooooooooooo gd mahn a luv him tae bits xxxxxxxxxxx
Posted by sxc lauren  on  Tue May 09, 2006  at  03:16 PM
The only definite thing one can say about this ad is that Nike's done it again, got the whole Internet talking about their advertisement (and, by association, their company). The people who come up with these ads are genius,
Posted by Josh  on  Sun May 14, 2006  at  02:17 PM
chillies, England won't win the world cup, brasil will. And another thing, ronaldinho can't play for england, or any other team other than brasil, for the world cup, because he was born in brasil and had played in the world cup for them already. It's in the rules.
Posted by Steven  on  Tue May 16, 2006  at  06:46 PM
Ronaldhino is easily one of the most skilled footballers ever but no-one can kick a ball from the edge of the area onto a round cross-bar and have it fall back at his feet four times in a row. If he could place the ball this accurately, why did he miss 3 direct free-kicks from the edge of the area in the European Cup final last night? More importantly he has REAL skills which are breathtaking...why tamper with the reality? Damn Nike.
Posted by Marfew  on  Thu May 18, 2006  at  05:35 AM
i am interested in football like u.
i like nike in football shoes.
my fovourite football country is brazil and football club is barcelona.
Posted by athoiba soubam  on  Sun May 28, 2006  at  01:43 AM
In actual fact, it is real. He recreated the scene for reporters yesterday during Brazil's training session during the World Cup preparations against Croatia. The reporters were telling him that it was a fake and that he could never do it in real life so he got the ball and did it there and then. Not fake. He's just a genius. Get over it.
Posted by Adizzle  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  08:32 AM
Ronaldinho is God. Whatever he wants happens.

BOW BEFORE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Ronaldinho Juaco  on  Wed Jun 14, 2006  at  06:56 AM
I am much better than Ronaldinho.
Posted by Fat Boy Ronaldo  on  Wed Jun 14, 2006  at  06:56 AM
yes good to see that rororo gaucho can do sso many great things with the ball i think he is a great one to look out for for the next ten years
Posted by elvis dhlandhlara  on  Fri Jun 16, 2006  at  07:12 AM
Fat Boy Ronaldo, that is BS. Honestly, don't say stuff like that.
Posted by Steven  on  Sat Jun 17, 2006  at  01:32 PM
"since one should always assume that what you see in ads is bogus, unless it's proven otherwise."

Nice use of the argumentum ad ignorantium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Posted by razzendahcuben  on  Thu Jun 22, 2006  at  05:02 PM
whoever thinks this is real is a complete knob head. yes hit the cross bar is one thing, (even i could do that) but hitting the crossbar and making it return to your chest is another thing altogether. i say with enough tries over a few hundred he would be able to do it at least once. but never 4 times in a row. and on the first take.
Posted by Mallise  on  Thu Jun 22, 2006  at  08:48 PM
It's not an example of argumentum ad ignorantium, razzendahcuben.

If, in the course of discussing a work of fiction, I said that, "Well, it's a novel. Therefore, the events described probably didn't happen in real life." Would you call that an argument from ignorance? I wouldn't. I would call it recognizing that certain genres, such as fiction and advertising, don't follow the same conventions of truth-telling as genres such as news reporting do.
Posted by The Curator  in  San Diego  on  Wed Jun 28, 2006  at  02:33 PM
And what if its fake? his the best player in the world so go envy haters you know thats real.

and that idiot child that put that picture that you can clearly see she painted over the ball is just sad, sad that people with no lifes have the time to try and ruin something....
Posted by Renesito  on  Fri Jul 07, 2006  at  01:04 AM
This ad is actually real, there was an interview on Good Morning America with the Marketing Director for Nike, he said that they had asked Ronaldinho to go out and try a few things as practice/taping and the commercial is what they ended up with.
Posted by Chad Atherton  on  Tue Aug 22, 2006  at  10:24 PM
I do not beleiven the video. If he can lob the ball and make it hit the exact place on cross bar why did he miss the penalty last season. How come in 4 free kicks only around 1 gose in and 80% don't even hit the target. why doesn't he make it hit the side of da post and impossible for keeper to get then score off deflection. It cannot be done
Posted by new zealander  on  Tue Aug 29, 2006  at  12:25 AM
theres a simple explanation for him missing free kicks DURING A GAME. when the commercial was shot he was just messing around at a practice, no pressure. BUT, at the game there were thousand of people watching at one instant and millions watching at home. Nobody can argue that anyone would get nervous at i time like that. i believe in ronaldinho. crazier things have happened.
Posted by ronaldinhosnotafake  on  Sat Nov 11, 2006  at  08:54 PM
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