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Monster Crocodile in New Orleans
Michael Maffei sent me some giant crocodile pictures that have begun doing the rounds. They're accompanied by this caption:

Now this is a Crocodile ! This crocodile was found in New Orleans swimming down the street. 21 FT long, 4,500 lbs, around 80 years old minimum. Specialists said that he was looking to eat humans because he was too old to catch animals. This crocodile was killed by the army last Sunday at 3:00 pm, currently he is in the freezer at the Azur hotel. The contents of it's stomach will be analyzed this Friday at 2:30pm.

The pictures are real enough, but they're weren't taken in New Orleans. These are pictures of the Monster Crocodile of Pointe-Noire (in the Republic of the Congo). They've been circulating for over two years. David Emery notes that the crocodile was really estimated to be 16 feet long and weighed about 1874 lbs. That's still a lot bigger than I'd ever care to encounter.

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Posted by The Curator on Sat Sep 17, 2005
The first impression of the photo looks already non american and more likely african. People in the US are definitely bigger. Other comments about location of crocodiles vs. aligators, and the truck's plate and the indentification of its speed limit were already mentioned in previous comments.
Posted by John  on  Mon Sep 26, 2005  at  05:14 AM
ok here we all know that mexico,texas and possibly new orleans are in the same area in a way. the croc that was found was obviously close where the hurricane was hitting at the time . i mean it isnt that impossible because they do swim so maybe it wasnt on the coast but couldnt that mean he could of been swimming around to the point of where he was right there when the storm hit i dont know all i can say is that this is some lake placid shit
Posted by joe lapinta  in  ohio  on  Mon Sep 26, 2005  at  08:59 AM
"It's sad people have to kill these things. It's been living all these years, and it got so big, yet they still had to kill it. Just rehabilitate it, it's not that big a deal."
posted by that dumbass Sakano


It is people like you that monsters like this get near villages and towns were humans live. People like you who yell save the Shark after a poor little 14 year old girl in florida gets half her body eaten by a shark! These creatures are fine when they are in there habitat, but I think that when human life is in danger because these monsters decide to flock to our habitat than they need to be killed! Better them than a human being! Kill to eat or kill not to be eaten! If you want to rehabilitate a crocodile than make sure all your friends are there with you on boat paddling your little happy asses toward the croc so you can stare into its sad eyes before it lundges at you smiling with its cute big teeth and crunches down on your head! Hehehehe!

PS: Yes there are Crocodiles in Florida and Florida by they way is not too far from New Orleans. As a matter of fact it is practically 230 miles if that. So a storm with floods could possibly bring fourth a monster from Florida into New Orleans. Not that I am saying this is a true pic in New Orleans, but that it is possible!

Sakano has been served by the phonedork!
Posted by phonedork  in  Houston, Texas  on  Mon Sep 26, 2005  at  11:05 AM
It's a real picture- just not a real gator. It's actually the fake monster used in the movie "Ed Wood." Boris Karloff had to rassle it in a swamp.

"Sakano has been served by the phonedork!"

Hey,phonedork! Can you finish a sentence without an exclamation! Give it a try! Thanks! ...pinhead...!
Posted by booch  on  Mon Sep 26, 2005  at  02:32 PM
I was suspicious of the pictures as well and disappointed that we are using the disaster in New Orleans to send fluke stories like this out. Where is our sympathy and respect?

I did find some interesting crocodillian information on this National Geographic page:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/crocmap/ax/frame_main.html
Posted by Sandy  on  Mon Sep 26, 2005  at  03:34 PM
HOW STUPID ARE AMERICANS! DO WE REALLY NOT KNOW WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING FOOLS OF US? STOP PASSING THIS MESS AROUND!
Posted by DEE VOTARY  in  MACON, GEORGIA  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  08:30 AM
I didn't believe the story that the Army catched the croc, where are the soldiers in the photos? and obviously they're not carrying it in an Army vehicle
Posted by Raul  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  08:58 AM
i did the search on the hotel too as i don't remember that name from any of my trips there. and i could not figure out why they were calling it a croc and not a gatoe..oh because it was a crock..anyway, photos are still cool
but they could have done without the slam to mayor nagin..
Posted by e  in  san francisco  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  03:07 PM
There are so many things that are wrong with this photo.
First thing that I noticed was that Crocs have a longer snout. And there are very very few North American crocs. They are endangered and I think the number is somewhere in the less than 500 range.
My 7 year old did a report on Crocodillians last year. He even noticed that the size was all wrong.
According to his research found on the "gatorland" website, American alligators can measure up to 18 feet, but are usually around 13 feet and weigh between 450 and 600 pounds. They also only live between 35 to 50 years in the wild.
No to mention all of the other "mistakes" in this photo........Thanks for offering a place to set things straight.
Posted by DK  in  Sacramento  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  04:22 PM
It is obviously a hoax. But there are alligator (not Croc) farms in the region that could have flooded and allowed large alligators to escape. The owners of some of these tourist traps pen up and over-feed alligators to enormous sizes, though a size this big is impossible. Interestingly, a lot of these farms keep and raise exotic animals illegally, so the idea of this could be plausible, but come on, 4,500 lbs! Why don't they say it was Nessie out there in the streets.
Posted by cewmd01  in  New Orleans  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  05:26 PM
Sorry folks. It's a Big Ole' Lie.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_croc_new_orleans.htm
Posted by Jeff B.  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  06:21 PM
There are so many moronic comments here that it's hard to contain myself...

THE TRUTH...FINALLY:

These pictures (and more) were taken at Pointe-Noire in the Republic of Congo (that's in Africa folks) on July 6, 2003 (and that's over two years before Katrina). It is/was a Nile Croc (that's right...a crocodile...NOT an alligator), was 16 feet and about 1900 pounds, and estimated to be ~50 year old. (Funny thing...they lied about its' size and age then too)

But don't take my word for it. Click on the link below and see for yourself...

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_pointe_noire_croc6.htm

Of course all of this information could be as erroneous as everything else, but at the least it shows that it is definitely not related to Katrina.
Posted by reh  in  Maine, USA  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  02:20 PM
How do you know that the three pictures are not real? The Croc looks mutated, as if it was to different pictures . Just so people know there is not a liecense plate on the back of the truck, all that you see are numbers. If people knew that the Croc was really dead then they would be calm cause they would know that it would not get them or anything. Any Way the point is that if you send a message to someone with out the information at the top of the screen then they will think that it is real... cool smile
Posted by KJT  in  KY  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  04:51 PM
hey ppl if u noticed the picture isnt of a crocodile in new orleans its a different pic and they did find a croc and it was the one from the zoo
Posted by tyler  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  09:35 PM
I think the Croc. Hunter is pissed off he couldn't get that sucker with he's bare hands...
Posted by Oh-Kami  in  any where you're not  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  11:59 PM
Amazing that there are so many of you out there that are smart enough to figure this out, but dumb enough not to have good vocabulary. You're all losers!
Posted by Who cares  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  01:25 PM
"People like you who yell save the Shark after a poor little 14 year old girl in florida gets half her body eaten by a shark! These creatures are fine when they are in there habitat, but I think that when human life is in danger because these monsters decide to flock to our habitat than they need to be killed!"

So, where did this girl in Florida get eaten by the shark? A crowded city street? Nope, I think it was the ocean, which is the habitat of sharks for a little bit under 400 million years. That is the result of us entering their habitat. Wanna swim where there are no sharks? Buy a pool. Same with people mauled by bears when they camp in forests, hikers attacked by cougars, natives snatched by crocodiles at river edges. Animals generally avoid human villages and such unless they have a problem (old, ill, injured). These are rarities known as rogues. Lions that stay at villages to hunt humans because they are weaker than normal prey. The Tsavo lions of the early 1900s would be a pristine example of this. The shark from 1916 off the coast of New Jersey that killed several people (and inspired Jaws) was thought to have been sick, explaining why it stuck so close to shore.

Regardless of that, the croc above is large for a Nile Crocodile, and if it were in the village, it was likely rogue, as well. This would endanger people, so thus, it was most likely killed out of defense. Nile Crocodiles in most of their range and most of their current extant subspecies are common, not even listed as being endangered. The Madagascar subspecies, which is smaller than the mainland populations, is considered threatened. If the animal was not rogue, it may have been suspected of killing someone from their village, leading to it being killed to be examined.
Posted by anonymous  on  Fri Sep 30, 2005  at  01:06 AM
who is the idiot woman who says the croc is not real. Everyone's is talking about how it is a big hoax that crocs aren't in louisiana and she busts up with: yeah, any normal human being wouldn't get anywhere close to something that big. yeah stupid, that's because its dead! any person with at least a 4th grade education can tell it's real, it just didnt come from New Orleans.
Posted by brandon  in  louisiana  on  Fri Sep 30, 2005  at  11:00 AM
o, and then there's bill nye the science guy with all the information on sharks and crap and how it had to have had a disease, you moron, it doesnt have anything to do with sharks and cougars and stuff, its a hoax! the croc is real it just didnt get is from New Orleans, end of story!
Posted by brandon  on  Fri Sep 30, 2005  at  11:06 AM
Well then... First off, Nile crocs have been known to reach lengths of over 20', but they don't repeat DO NOT live on our continent, that's why they're called NILE crocodiles. It doesn't matter, though because we have all already heard the true story of where this croc came from. Now, as for all the people out there who do think this story is real...
YOU ARE ALL FRIGGIN MORONS! IT TOOK ME ABOUT 12 SECONDS OF CONTEMPLATION AFTER I HEARD ABOUT THIS (NOT SEEING ANY PICS, MIND YOU) TO REALIZE THAT SOMEBODY WAS YANKIN' MY GIRLFRIENDS FUCKING CHAIN.
Anyway, what does a cougar have to do with a crocodile?
Posted by Bradley  on  Sat Oct 01, 2005  at  12:36 AM
Regardless of the fact that I knew this was a crocodile and not an alligator and all of the other points made, there is still one thing that blatantly screams "this is a hoax!"

What am I referring to? Those black folk are not New Orleans. Look at the type of clothes they are wearing, not to mention if they were from the New Orleans projects, they would be hanging all over the gator throwing up gang signs acting like monkeys.

Racist comment, yeah, but it's the truth and the first thing that came to my attention becuse Lord knows we wish we could have civilized people like the ones in those pictures.
Posted by whocares  in  Louisiana  on  Sun Oct 02, 2005  at  11:26 AM
I said there were no crocs there but my co-workers said there were. I bought it to the point of being enraged that we idiot humans killed that big guy. Feel so much better now.....and no, I'm not blond.
Posted by k creed  in  international falls mn  on  Mon Oct 03, 2005  at  12:32 AM
hey,
dont you thank if its a huge croc like that, that it might just as well some equal or bigger then that one, and that they migt be headed to new oleans or are all ready there feeding off of the dead.
Posted by anthony  on  Mon Oct 03, 2005  at  11:28 PM
Oh well, makes for great bed time stories for the kiddies, you know like "Monster croc eats little kids when they're in bed asleep." Guaranteed to ensure extra bed partners at 2:00 a.m.
Posted by Bob  on  Tue Oct 04, 2005  at  09:38 AM
why would they mak up that they found a 21 foot gator/"croc" if it wasnt true it has to be. i dont know about you all but if this thing lived in a swamp all its life without any interruptions from us humans then no tellin how big he could get there might even be bigger things out there than that
Posted by kristy  in  north carolina  on  Tue Oct 04, 2005  at  05:01 PM
Wow...some people say stupid things. I think this is an amazing creature. I believe that it is God's creature. And it's awesome that something that big could grow in the wild. But guess what, animal activists? God made people too, and he made us smarter than the animals. That's why when they try to kill us, we kill them. Don't like it? Then try going up against a huge croc like this, and just try telling me with a straight face that you would let it kill you before you killed it. Bullshit. Self defence is an instinct. So don't give me that all creatures are sacred bullshit. All creatures are sacred until they try to kill an animal that is better at killing than they are, in this case humans. If the animals were smarter than us, they'd be killing and eating you, but God was good enough to make us better.

And of course the story is a hoax. But I was happy to get the email because it gave me a chance to see a magnificent animal that I would otherwise never have known about, so everyone just stop bitching, please.
Posted by BenjiWenji  on  Wed Oct 05, 2005  at  12:20 AM
-The easiest give-away is the sticker on the truck that says 80/90. As the US still wors with Miles only it would mean that the truck is allowed to go 144 KMH. The dont even do that in NASCAR! LOL
Posted by Smartalec  in  World  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  04:32 AM
This one is for Kristy who does not know how big the could get:

Alligator
Length: the American alligator Alligator mississippiensis can reach 15 feet (4.6 meters)
Weight: up to 1,000 pounds (454 kilograms)
Life span: 30 to 60 years

Crocodile
Length: largest
Posted by Smartalec  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  04:35 AM
The Picture in itself let's you know something's up, However the best dead giveaway are the coloring of the script in the E-mail, and the person who originated it must really be an idiot, because he uses Alligator and Crocodile to describe the animal in the photos. What a friggin idiot.
Posted by Brian Suer  in  Leesville, Louisiana  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  09:45 AM
There is actually such thing as the American Crocodile (crocodylus acutus) however they are typically smaller than the american alligator, and are quite rare...
Posted by writer  in  Canada  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  03:57 PM
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