Coydogs

Pete...go to this site:
http://www.winkflash.com/PHOTO/signin.aspx
(type in casey123 for the password)
Look at the dog photo. This is Shara the coydog I've been talking about. She's 5 months old there. I've got more recent pictures of her at 8 months. I'll put them out there soon. Keep in touch. You seem intelligent and interesting.

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i can be honest and say that they are real i had a coy dog i happend to catch a coyote in a trap when she was young. after she got used to the family and looked at us as her family (my mom 2 sisterand i)any way the coyote and my lab end up mateing when the family went on vacation got rid of all the pups but one rocky and he was by fare the best dog i had. a lil bit shy and protective of me i had him for a year and a half intill me and a buddy got into a wrestling match and he tried going for my friends throat i had to put him down

That's very interesting. Recently my dog has been accused of killing a puppy. It's hard for me to believe that she went out and killed someone's puppy. I have 2 cats that she is around all the time and the neighbors 2 puppies come in my house with her at night. She does act wild in many ways though and if she has this type of behavior it isn't at home. Everyone is telling me that my dog would never do that and that she is afraid of other dogs and runs away from them. She's very shy and afraid of everyone. She even runs away from me lately when I ask her to come to me. I've been working with her but it really takes time to train a wild animal and I'm thinking that the least little thing could cause her to react with her instincts instead of what she has been taught by me so far. It's as though I'm going to have to continue her training much longer than a normal dog requires to keep her from acting on instincts. The man that accused her of killing his dog as a den of coyotes not far from where he lives. Also, 2 brindle pitt bulls not far away. I'm just hoping it wasn't my dog that killed his puppy. I even have a rabbit in my house to teach her not to chase and kill. My 2 dogs that were accused come into my home with a rabbit running around and they sleep with a cat. But I'm wondering that if they are going out into the woods and hunting, if they really do change and go after other animals like prey.

I'm glad I found these posts and know there are other people with coydogs out there.

A friend brought me what she thought was a Husky pup from a kill shelter in TN. Right from the start she was different. She looked up and all around when leaving the house, was clean and the easiest to housebreak. As she grew the difference from my other dogs became very evident. She never smelled like a dog even when wet. And her fur was always clean. Her first year I went away for a couple of weeks and she blew her coat and looked rough like wild coyote's do. But after that she adjusted to my occasional leaving. Maybe because she was socialized young she liked almost everybody but was cautious with strangers when she didn't know them. Tasha was the best "dog" I've ever had. I raise dairy goats and she would help clean the new babies and watch over them, never chased her cat or chickens. But she would wait at the woodchuck hole for hours if necessary while the other dogs got bored. She hunted mice and other birds and grazed in the raspberry patch. She would wait in my truck all day just to be with me. Everyone who saw her thought she was a coyote and more times than I can count people stopped to let me know there was a coyote in the field near my goats. She howled and yipped and loved to have a group howl though the other dogs couldn't carry the tune very well she forgave them. Tasha was about 35 lbs and her coat was a golden color with some darker hairs and her tail was bushy and black tipped. There is a wild coyote male down the road that is colored almost like her. I haven't had a problem with wild coyote's bothering my herd ever since Tasha confronted them and established that this was her territory. She was very protective of her extended family. Unfortunately she died too young. May be I was one of the lucky ones. As good as she was if I ever come across another female coydog puppy you can be sure that it would make a home here.

I have a coydog now and have had others in the past. I find it odd that anyone suggests they don't exist. It is very common for male coyotes to come into small towns in Canada to check out the female dogs in heat. People catch them "in the act" sometimes and the right amount of time later there are puppies who are quite different from regular dogs. Go figure.

Anyway, my coy is a darling. She is different from a regular dog in so many ways. She was born on a reservation and, supposedly, her mom is half German Shepherd and half coyote while her father was pure coyote.

I'm not sure I believe this, however, as she is a a beautiful red color. She does have a head something like a German Shepherd and a very big bark rather than a coyote yip. Anyway, you can see her on youtube.com if you like. Just search: coyote dreaming or click on the URL with this message or cut and paste: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4JV23j1qRgE.

In my experience (I've had three coys and one seemingly pure coyote), they are a mixed bag. One was so independent that she utterly refused to be fed and traveled around town like she owned the place. The dog catcher tried repeatedly to catch her but she simply outsmarted the poor guy time and again. Another was a great dog, no problems, and no real sign of her coyote heritage except she was very smart and worked with the "pure" coyote to hassle the daylights out of bears. The "pure" coyote was way too high strung and did not make a good pet.

Our present dog is pretty much perfect. She is so smart she even watches television (mind you, she finds people shows boring but will watch almost anything with dogs or, preferably, wolves and coyotes in it. I don't think she would be as interested in a regular tv but we have a projector (not a projection tv, btw) that she seems able to see clearly.

Anyway, I don't know what the biologist referred to earlier can be thinking. There ought to be some scientific way to prove whether or not coydogs exist but I doubt she would be able to convince country people who have seen dozens or even hundreds of them.

Another supposed legend is that scorpions sting themselves when they are frightened. I saw this for myself, once, so there's no doubt in my mind. Our son had caught a scorpion and incarcerated it. We watched it sting itself, fall over "dead" (we thought) and then revive an hour or so later.

Maybe it's a matter of scientists needing to get out more!

Hello, I am cindy and I have a sweet wolf/sherpard dog! White male about 6 years old.

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I own a coydog and a DNA test to prove it... She is beautiful and very skittish of strangers and other dogs..

I rescued a dog from a wild dog shelter in CO.
He's one of the greatest dogs I've owned. At the time I didn't think of the fact he could be a coyote mix. But he matches all the coyote mix traits.

Hi Mike,
I see no coyote,but I do see possible pitbull
due to the shape of the head.
Or maybe even Akita
Nice looking dog tho.

Mishka, low content coydog for adoption:
http://www.wolfdogrescue.net/adopt/mishka/mishka.html

"Mishka is a coydog. This precious girl will need someone special with experience and secure containment. Mishka is a little shy but definitely not afraid of people. She is hard to get ahold of but once you have gotten her, she will walk fine on her leash. She is not house-broken and has had no obedience training."

Also, in regards to the original original post, the Sundance coydogs are genuine coydogs. While matings of coyotes and dogs in the wild is rare, breeding the two in captivity is nothing special.

I think he might have Akita or Pit or both in him.
But because where I got him and his odd traits being part Coyote would make a lot of sense.

long neck.
oval paw print.
impossible to housebreak.
perfect teeth.
extra thick tail fur.
massive prey drive.
thick dark fur ridge from head to tail.
dug two large dens in my back yard.
won't play with toys.
rarely barks.
curls up in a ball to sleep.
and a big sweet lover boy.

All those traits are also dog ones.

I have owned over 20 dogs myself plus my friends and family all have many dogs. This is the first one to dig a den. I hope he's not a coyote mix. Maybe someday soon the dog DNA tests will include coyote and wolf markers.

Feral dogs have been known to dig dens. Husky's will also dig "dens". I remember on the terrificpets forum there was a topic (few years ago now) where people were talking about their dogs digging dens. It does happen.

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Alot of dogs will dig dens. I have a Rottweiler, Corgi, and two german shepherds that all dig dens. (The corgi is just copying the "real" dogs. -LOL

Dogs hunting or killing proves nothing. Read any book of the settlers in new england or the west. They did not use dog food, they left the dog's provision up to himself. Both my shepherds will hunt rabbit or squirrell. (I feed them everyday too.)
A dog "going for your friends throat" proves nothing either. Any good protective dog will do that if it thinks you are in trouble.

Folks, your dog "acting" like a coyote doesn't prove or suggest anything. With all due respect, the people who claim to have taken wild coyote home and "tamed" them are misguided at best.

There may be real "coy-dogs" but nobody has provided any evidence. "My uncle Jake saw one" is not worthy of debate.

To the person who responded that there was not evidence of coydogs,here is my friends site.
http://www.coydog.us/
These are absolutely real.
Beautiful animals....

I agree for the most part with antferny's post. Most if not all dogs will display at least some behavioral traits with wolves and coyotes.

However, there ARE genuine coydogs in existence (albeit VERY few). The two are able to produce offspring together, and all that is needed to get a coydog is a coyote and a dog who get along. Finding the coyote is the only real hard part. You can't exactly just go out and buy one at the local pet store. And even if you could, adult coyotes are very hard animals to keep. The vast majority of coydogs out there are not actually coydogs.
The coydog.us site hosts pictures of genuine coydogs, and their breeder is one of only three or four I have ever known to produce real coydogs.

So "I own a coydog and a DNA test to prove it" isn't proof? Gee, maybe we should all shut up unless we are willing to prove stuff to you. LOL

Just like mountain gorillas and giraffes (once considered imaginary) some people already know including people who have watched coyotes trot through, mate with dogs, and a few months later, had puppies arrive that look and act quite different than most dogs. Good enough for us humble folk.

Btw, nobody cares if you consider it proved or not.

Why is it that so many people with half an education are such pretentious asses?

A friend of mine has what he says is a coyote and chihuahua mix, he refers to as a "Chiyote." -- he's not putting me on, but I wonder if this is possible. "Harvey," is a wonderful pet -- my friend is in construction, and takes Harvey to most of his jobs. I've always wondered about Harvey, as he is a little bigger and huskier than a chihuahua, but the operative word there is "little." -- I would expect a Chiyote (or however it might be spelled) to be more in the 20 to 30 pound range. Any help out there? R. T., Capitola, CA

In regard to dogs digging dens, I have an AKC golden retriever and her mom dug a den in their backyard!

I live in the hills of eastern ky,and i have what,
i call a male german sheperd,whom has all the
markings,and actions of the many coyotes i have
watched over the years here in the mountains. he has a hard time controling his urge to prey upon my cat. I have no idea why people find it so hard to believe coyote and dogs do not mix.

Your GSD sounds like he is the color "sable" which is a normal color for German shepherds to have (though not as common as most other colors). Also, GSD's are notorious for having strong prey drive if they are not raised with cats.

I happen to know that coyote will mate with other dogs. I own a coyote/sheppard mix. I love her dearly and she is very well behaved. She came from the reservation. So believe it!

does anyone know of anybody raising coydogs around the dallas,tx area. I have been told that the recent dog that I have rescued is really a coydog, after they examined her teeth and remarked about her coloring and body structure. She looks like a cross between a german shephard and coyote features and other folks have remarked about this and I would like to know how to really determine if she is or isn't. thanks

I know someone who use to breed them
in Oregon.But she no longer does.
Here is her site.
http://www.coydog.us/
You can look at hers and see if your dog is
similiar.

thanks annie for responding to my posting yesterday, however, I have tried to go on that email address that you sent....coydog.us/ and have not been able to make a contact....is there another email address or tele number that I can call them....where are they located also? any help that I can get will be greatly appreciated as we would love to keep this female dog, however, she is developing quite an interest in our goats and am wondering what we can do to keep her from doing any harm.thanks again...ruby

Hi Ruby,
Not surprised since she is doing her website
over.
She lives in Oregon....
I think the email address that is shown is the
only one.
Have you tried sending her a picture?

Ruby, I had a coydog and she was great with my goats. Granted she was younger when I got her . Bring her with you when ever you do chores and make he understand that these are your goats and be nice. But watch her carefully. It may take some time but hopefully she will come to understand that they are her goats too. Mine were dairy goats and it was quite easy to have her with me in the barn at milking time.

Coydogs do exist. Where I lived in Wyoming they were bred together to make great work dogs. My border collie/coyote combination lived to be 21 years old. She was a great dog

My coydog was named Julep. She was a great cattle dog, but had a really bad habit of killing cats and rabbits and eating them. Used to really upset the neighbors when we moved off the ranch and into town.

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the chances of finding a coydog in Alaska. We have a one year old "husky mix" we got him from Anchorage Animal Control they said that his litter was two months old and that they had spent their entire life outside. He's very skittish, especially towards men. He has huge ears that stick straight up and he's skinny and tall. When he sleeps he curls into a tiny ball and tucks his nose under his legs. We thought he was part greyhound because he's so skinny and can run so fast, but after looking at picture of coydogs he looks a lot more like a coydog than a greyhound. He has the markings and coloring of a black and white husky or malamute. I hope that someone can tell me weather or not coydogs exist in Alaska, also, if I take him to the vet is their a DNA test to tell if he's part coyote?

If there are coyotes there are coydogs. Ask the native people. Here, they prefer coydogs and can spot them easily. White people are scared of coys but we have never had a bad one (except one was too nervous but he looked pure coyote).

We recently moved to a place farther out in the bush and the neighbors have lost dogs to coyotes who lure the bigger ones out on the lake ice, then finish them off. Once my coy chased a coyote but stopped and ran for cover (me) as soon as she saw there were two of them. So it looks like she knew they were up to no good.

Our coy was born on a reserve so we know she was born to a half coyote mother and a wild father. She was skittish at first but has become calmer. She is very different in personality from our other coys but they are all natural-born killers when it comes to mice, etc. One used to go down to the swamp and catch a big fish whenever she wanted something different to eat.

I have flirted with the idea for awhile that my Willow could be a Coydog. Now that I'm doing some research I feel even stronger about it. Her Golden Ret mother was rescued with 6 pups; 5 which looked just like Mama and oddball Willow. She has the most intense, gold, almond eyes and long thin snout. Her coat is blonde, with a few odd chocolate blotches, thick but not long (not much that's retriever in it). And yes, tail is normally carried down though not particularly bushy. She is gentle, attached to me at the hip, extremely shy & fearful (in new situations) since day 1. Not people-aggressive at all but very dominant to her 100# 'sister' (Willow is about 80# and built like a tank!). She is a bit resource-aggressive with bones and snarls like nothing I have every heard before. This is a constant correction point in our home. She is also quite the talker with me. She has the retriever love of swimming or chasing balls (occasionally) but attacks it with a strange, serious intensity. In a year & 1/2 I have really never seen her playful or puppylike. In fact, she gets very angry when my other dog wants to play with me; she will not allow it. I adore her, but there is just something different about her. I've always said, while Frannie is the watchdog, that I believe Willow could be the 'surprise' if anyone tried to hurt me. Would love to have genetic testing. Will post pic if someone tells me where. I just fell onto this page doing research. Also, where would I find the info referenced about paw pads and teeth? I remember the vet initially questioned her age when she looked at her teeth @ 5-6 months. She was born early April or near to.

I have a dog(Misty) that I am 100% sure is a coydog, especially after watching some videos on coyotes. We got her from a shelter a few towns over and her mommy was a white shepherd. From the way she moves and seems to regard our yard(which is fairly big) as her territory it's pretty obvious. She also seems to definitely have a wild streak and often hunts down smaller animals(squirrels/skunks/raccoons/chipmunks/birds) pretty seriously(They never get away and much of the time they're half or mostly eaten when we find them.), unlike most dogs she doesn't present her kill to us. She has a pretty relaxed temperament but is almost always on guard. She's not skittish or shy about people, but that seems to be more of an environmental thing(however she's always very nervous around young children.). She also seems to sort of be the pack leader among our dogs, which we have three of.

Oh and I forgot to add, we also have a couple of cats that this dog plays with but since we got her very young she's pretty good with them. We just had to train her to know that they belong in the house and she didn't have an issue. However once a strange cat wandered into our yard and she eviscerated it.

Although some of you may THINK that a Collie and a Coyote can NOT breed, I am here to tell you that you are oh so very wrong. In 1975, while living in northern Alberta, a farmer approached my father with a problem. His female Collie was involved with a male coyote. The result... He had a litter of half breed puppies that the farmer did not want. I was happy to find out that my father rescued one of these puppies and brought her home. She had the markings of a collie, however her coloring was not as red as a collie but more mixed like a coyote. She was extremely intelligent and loyal. She did not like to live indoors with us and preferred to live under the porch. When she had pups with a stray dog, she taught her pups how to hunt. She had all of the primal instincts of a coyote, but was as loyal as a collie. We had the very best of both worlds.

So, in short, yes it is possible for the two to breed, bust as possible as it is for a Wolf and a Husky to breed

I own a mix husky, coyote, german shepherd mix named Cheyenne..I've had lots of dogs and this one is the most intelligent I,ve ever had..crafty, and a hunter since he was 4 months old and caught his first mouse under the snow!! He will hunt and eat anything smaller than him..which can be a drag! He loyal, affectionate, dominant and very independant..he stays outside and is uncomfortable inside the house. His father was a half german shepherd/coyote mix..I find the first generations are not quite nice looking dogs, but the second generation are much nicer..he actually looks like a Rare Japanese Shikoku Inu..same size, weight, colour, eyes, muzzle except he has a coyote tail and not a spitz curled tail over his back. His grandmother was a pure german shepherd who disappeared in the woods for 3 weeks when she was in heat..we all saw her several times around the house to get food and saw her lone coyote boyfriend hanging around! Cheyenne's mom is a husky. We have the large Eastern coyotes here which can get up to 65 lbs, are reddish and actually are a genetic hybrid of the red eastern wolf and coyote. The red wolf was killed off about a century ago by the settlers . For sure, he has a stubborn streak and it take patience and a firm hand to train him. Beauty wise, he is gorgeous and in fall we have to be careful in the woods..my neighbours almost shot him thinking he was a coyote!!

Humans and chimpanzees may never breed with each other. But, the're still genetically close enought that chimps can be transfused with human blood!

As for coyotes and dogs being unable to hybridize? I've read where there's increasing evidence that the so-called "red wolf" (Canis rufus) might never have existed at all. That they were actually just gray wolf/coyote cross-breeds all the time!

If this is true, it's easier to understand the belief that C. rufus has possibly gone "extinct." Most hybrids--the mule is the best example of this--are born infertile. So, coy-wolves are most likely not able to breed with each other, anymore than coy-dogs are.

I know of a lady who bred coydogs.

Here is her link.

http://www.coydog.us/

So yes they can be bred together.
They are not infertile...

Please, note that I did use the word "most."

Not--repeat: NOT-- "all."

Big difference.

Our family has a coydog. Actually, it's a BorderCoyCollieDog. I won't explain further, just this sentence that states that if you can't figure out the half and half of it by the name, you shouldn't have a dog or a license to drive.
She can be a very sweet, nice dog. However, she gets mean at very inappropriate times. She is especially mean around food. I can pet her, and she will growl, even to the point of showing her teeth. But 2 seconds after a petting attempt, she licks my hand as it leaves her head. In fact, she licks my hand while growling.
Does anyone know if half coyotes have a tendency to be meaner than regular dogs? She has had a very gentle upbringing, (maybe too gentle. That may be the reason she thinks she can treat anyone however she likes,) and so far has attacked our puppy once requiring stitches. The puppy is now bigger than she is, and can fend for herself if she wishes to -- in fact the two are very close but the BorderCoyCollieDog still growls at very inappropriate times.
Any help or advice would be met with extreme appreciation.
Thank you.

I would like to point out the flaw in the biologist's theory in this document. In fact, the quoted material makes the biologist look like a complete moron. He/She stated
"Coyotes go in to heat between January and March and have pups in May or June, while dogs have their pups in winter."
I don't know much about coyotes, but dogs start going into heat 6 months after birth. Sometimes as soon as 4 months. There is no set time for heat in a female dog. However, after the first heat, you can expect another heat 6 months later or 12 months later. Dog's don'g just "have their pups in winter."
I understand this biologist is working towards a PHD while teaching. He/She should be fired for lack of competence. I know for a fact that dogs go into heat at different times of year. That said...
Even if dogs go into heat at different times than coyotes do, that wouldn't matter, because male dogs/coyotes don't have a heat cycle, and can make puppies whenever they wish. Same with the other way around, but I doubt a female coyote would let a male dog get in too deep so easily.
This is ludicrous. When some people hear something that sounds bizarre to them, they have to start lying and making false statements to not only make themselves sound smarter than other people, but try to disprove the bizarre occurrence.
Way to go Chrissie Henner, biologist at the Massachusetts Division of Fisheries and Wildlife.. you are a proven moron.

Actually, Mr Darringer, male coyotes are only fertile once a year, like the females. Also, what your dog is showing is called food aggression, which is not at all rare in domestic dogs. It means he never learned as a pup that its ok for you to touch his food. As far as attacking the other dog, this is called "dog aggression", and is also not uncommon at all in domestic dogs. I have never heard of coydogs as being more aggressive than other dogs. However, if they are anything like wolfdogs, then they are probably harder to train and so might be more susceptible to certain behavioral issues simply because of poor (or lack of) training. Its important to note that this can also be true of harder-to-train dog breeds such as huskies, german shepherds, or border collies 😉 If your dog is showing aggression issues, its probably because it was poorly bred or not properly trained. It's not a sign that its part coyote.

So Seijun, I guess this means that if you wish to breed a coyote and a dog, you would have to find a dog that has her heat cycle at the same time as a specific male coyote?
I have never bred dogs, but have known people that have. They never had much trouble using the same male dog to impregnate different female dogs that had heat cycles at different times of year, as far as I could perceive.
Thank you for your information, Seijun. But would you say that the biologist made a pretty disinformed assumption that coydogs could not exist because all dogs go into heat at specific times of the year that are different from all coyotes?