So, I read through all the posts on that ebaums site and OMG! This thing is really getting out of hand. I've never seen so many posts going back & forth! People saying they've seen the full footage, people NEEDING to see to full footage, people who don't want to see it. One thing is for sure, nobody has been able to find it anywhere on the internet. (And it seems like some of these people have made the search their new full time job!)
Leads me to believe,what Alex said in the very beginning, it never really existed. All these people who say they've seen it are lying, just trying to keep the UL going. It's a good one. I mean, I could just as easily come on here and say "I saw it! It's real!"
The best argument I read for it not being real is the "who edited it?" comment.I mean really, someone went to the trouble to edit this video and post it on the internet.
The real question in my mind is who started the UL? Was it the kid himself? I mean who would watch that video without all the mystery? It's actually a brillant ploy. He's acheived internet infamy.

Here's a relatively informative article about the Snuff films urban legend. As usual, a marketing ploy gone wild. Here 'tis: http://www.csicop.org/si/9905/snuff.html

Thanks Barghest for clearing that up, memories can be unreliable at times and I hadn't heard of 8mm so I confused the two. I wonder how old the kid in the clip is. Could he be trying to show how good a computer or video geek he is for some class or club? If he's of the right age, maybe this is a fraternity prank. Who made the original post on ebaumsworld? Since that person made the comment implying that the unedited version could be found, maybe that person is in on the hoax?

It seems to have been started and perpetuated by someone going by the screen name "Waysloppy". Throughout the posts, this person is accused and berrated about starting this rumor. There are some others who do chime in and say they've seen it though. I don't believe them. It's ridiculous to think this is true! Although, there is a part of me that does wonder.... what if?
That's the stuff ULs are made of!

The article Hairy cites is interesting, especially as a record of an outrageous hoax, but it doesn't convince me of its basic premise, which is that the movie "Snuff" (a grade ZZZ exploitation flick made in Argentina) was the original source of the "snuff film" legend. It seems more likely to me, especially given the title, that the distributors capitalized on an already-existing rumor/legend to promote their otherwise virtually unmarketable property.

Big Gary C, you are correct. Gleaning deeply from my endless memory library, "Snuff" was the term given to films that, obviously, depicted, allegeded suicides or killings, done for the camera. The story was, these films were on 8mm, super8, 16mm, whatever, and were smuggled in thru Mexico (see article), and shown as a modern-day Grand guignol spectacle amongst the more twisted of us. This pretty well pre-dated home video players. The film "Snuff" was one of several, but the most notorious, that was purported to have been an 8mm,etc, transferred to the big screen. I think I saw "Snuff" when it came out on video some time later, and I was convinced that was gruesomely, exploitively, visciously, fake. Terrible to behold nonetheless, and a true piece of trash. Not unlike Andy Warhol's "Trash". Later, these really despicable Faces of Death videos came out, and we got to see the real thing. Personally, I like Theatere, I enjoy Illusion, and I love Films. This snuff stuff, in my view, is the bilge water on the Turdball Titanic.

Just wanted to answer kateys question on the first page of this and I believe this is the kid from Gummo if not, I truely feel sorry for this kid for looking like him.

Glamcat asked if anyone knew this song "Aicha". My husband is German and he says that the song is quite well known here in Germany. (Glamcat also mentioned that the boy's website was in German.) My husband believes that the original artist was Turkish.

Oopsy, I just read Page 2. If Jake R. says the original group are Danish, then that must be right. All the same, it is quite well known here in Germany

yeh i didnt think it was true! i mean he has his own website n stuff and i found this while searchin the web! http://members.msn.com/default.msnw?guids=599HlfJJ3EWKHbfnDt6FThnBlk1l3aNJWGiWRvlp0ixOelvBlJ4lP7xALnsEsPFff*

i dnt think hes dead!

Yeah, but it does say it was last updated 7/15/2004 so who knows?
Can anybody translate what he wrote about himself?

hey can anyone please email me a link to this ahea or email it to me? i gotta see what everyone is talking about

malus, google for 'aicha kid video' and you should find some links to it.

hey, i just wanted to say , that i loved the video very funny, and i liked the song, catchy, i would like to know who its by? anyways i was dissapointed to see that he didnt really kill him self at the end, does anyone know where to find that tape? or any other real suiside tapes, email me thankx

I have a question about the note from june just above this one. Could june be hoaxing this website, spoofing this thread or is she really someone who finds the idea of watching someone else die interesting?

hey everyone

im really confused about this aicha video suicide.
is it true or not? i hear so many stories about it being a joke or he commited suicide on the "uncut" version of the type. i really want to know the truth. if anyone has the uncut version (not a joke) please send it.

thank you
-danielle*

its all fake, all of it! ive looked every where and theres only and edited version that someone else has done where he dies. how would have filmed it anyway?! as if he killed himself! someone would have to of put it on the net in the first place and no one would realy do it. i wouldnt be surprised if he did though. if u were like that ud kill urself anyway. i heard his friend promised to put it on the net because "gellie man" or wateva wanted it on there.

he did commit suicide. Don't think this is all a joke. it's all completely true. this kid is now dead. No I don't think he filmed it but he did commit suicide and Hell was he pissed that his friend sent the thing in to ebaumsworld and that's why he's dead...people don't do anything like that to your friends...

~Vampy

Hey guys,

I just found out about the kid's video. The original song is one of my favourites and it is by Khaled (not by Outlandish) and was entirely in french (coz Cheb Khaled is Algerian). In any event, I think this 'uncut' video is bullshit and that this hoax has probably degraded the beautiful song to a (commericial?) prank.

This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. I dont know what to believe but this "myth" is really messing with my mind. The first time i saw the video i thought it was hilarious but after reading that i watched it again and it gave me a stomach ache. That kid who said he wanted to see the kid die and if anyone had videos of suicide to send it to him is durranged and has serious problems.

This kid does exist and did not commit suicide.
He is reffered in Belgium as 'gellieman'
This BTW his MSN profile:
http://members.msn.com/default.msnw?guids=599HlfJJ3EWKHbfnDt6FThnBlk1l3aNJWGiWRvlp0ixOelvBlJ4lP7xALnsEsPFff*

If you search google, you will get more info.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&q=gellieman&btnG=Google+zoeken&meta;=
Too bad almost everything you can find about him is in dutch.

All of the websites for him are fakes that people have made. I saw the video. My best friend's boyfriend showed it to us on his laptop. It was gross. He and his friends send eachother those kinds of vids all the time. So yes it is real. I don't want to see it again but I can see if he will send it to me so I could let others see it is real.

thats sum fucked shit man aicha was so cool but i think he didnt kill himself becuase like sum1 sed already who would have edited it?

hia,i dont no who to believe but the whole thing makes me feel sick the first time i watched it i thought it was so funny and couldn stop watchin it n showin ma m8s now ive heard the rumors i cant watch it at all...neway i dont think he did kill himself because here is his webpage..ive also tried gettin in contact with him n ill let you no if i do...Clo

Okay, people, listen up. NOBODY has seen the "unedited" video, simply because there is not one.

People who claim to have seen it are full of shit. If you are offended by me calling you a liar, TOO DAMNED BAD. Stop lying and I won't.

ANY video you want can be found if you look hard enough, IF IT EXISTS. This one does not.

Some dork started it all as a joke, and it just grew from there (kinda like the current US president )

When was the last time something totally disappeared from the internet once it was there? NEVER. Remember goatse? The original is gone, but you can find it in a thousand different places if you're weird enough to look for it.

If I watch the unedited video will I die to?

this is fucked up

Here is the kid's website. He did not kill himself:

http://jellebuelens.nl.nu/

Wow, Nicole, thank you for the new information.

What?

We've heard all of that before? A few times?

Really?

Well then I guess a website that hasn't changed in years proves that someone is still alive.

What? It doesn't?

PEOPLE GODDAMNIT JUST READ THIS!!!!

His having a website that hasn't been updated in to long kind of adds to the fact that he is dead....And, there was neevr any "uncut" version...NO MATTER WHAT ANY ONE SAYS THERE WAS NONE!!!!!!!!!!.....Something like that, if it was ever on the internet will not just "fade away" that NEVER happens...Oh and the kid is dead, that's right HE DID COMMIT SUICIDE....I know because someone I knew used to live down the road from him and she knew him personally and he really is dead....SO SHUT UP ABOUT IT...he DID commit suicide...after someone put the video up on Ebaumsworld.com he got made fun of to Hell and beyond and decided to commit suicide! but GODDAMNIT....THERE IS NO UNCUT VERSION AND HE IS DEAD...

~Vampy

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