Adult-Proof Ringtones

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I've received quite a few emails about this. A British paper, metro.co.uk, reports that resourceful teenagers have devised a way to make the ringing of their cellphones inaudible to adults. The trick is that they've recorded the sound of the Mosquito, which is a device that emits ultrasonic tones inaudible to most people over the age of twenty-five, but quite audible, and rather annoying, to people under the age of 25:

Techno-savvy pupils have adapted the Mosquito alarm, used to drive teenage gangs away from shopping centres. They can receive calls and texts during lessons without teachers having the faintest idea what is going on. The alarm, which has been praised by police, is highly effective because its ultra-high sound can be heard only by youths but not by most people over 20. Schoolchildren have recorded the sound, which they named Teen Buzz, and spread it from phone to phone via text messages and Bluetooth technology. Now they can receive calls and texts during lessons without teachers having the faintest idea what is going on.

Can this be real? Well, the Mosquito is real enough (I posted about it back in November 2005), and it is true that young people can usually hear higher frequencies than older people because we lose the ability to hear high frequencies as we age. The question is whether cellphone speakers can generate these ultrasonic frequencies. Boing Boing posts a comment from one of their readers who swears that cellphone speakers would not be able to do this. However, another reader links to an article that contains an mp3 recording of the Mosquito sound. (When I listen to it I can't hear any high-pitched noise, just a bunch of street noise.) So if computer speakers can generate these frequencies, perhaps some high-end cellphone speakers also can. Seems plausible. In other words, I'm not yet willing to label this story as a hoax or false rumor, even though it does seem to be a bit far-fetched.

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Posted on Thu May 25, 2006



Comments

i'm 25, and i can hear it. It fades in and out, but it does not cause headache to me(listened to it for 5 minutes now) and infact does not really annoy me even!
Posted by frank  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  02:46 AM


This is a spectrogram of the tone in it.

I am 36 and hear it without trouble when I somewhat turn up the speaker volume. A very high-pitched, somewhat chirping tone.
Posted by LaMa  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  03:48 AM
And I too am able to hear bats by the way.
Posted by LaMa  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  03:50 AM
I'm 26, but I can hear the Mosquito in the mp3, although barely.

This worries me that people like me who have full time jobs and never hang in gangs and work for a living will be chased away from places that we have a right to be in.

At any rate, since some phones have sound system intended to play back mp3's then there is no reason whatsoever why it cannot be used as a ringtone.

Of course since some teachers are around my age, those using it in this manner are likely to be caught, sooner or later.
Posted by catwhowalksbyhimself  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  06:37 AM
I'm 36 and I couldn't hear a thing, untill i turnedth bass right down (all the way) and the treble right up (all the way). Then i could just make out a very very high pitched squeak that was annoying. I've got good gear so i am unsure if this would come through on a phone. Certainly would such that I could hear it anyway 😉
Posted by Bern  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  08:54 AM
I could hear it plainly on my speakers...an annoying pulsating sort of ringing in my ears. I'm 39, so I'm pleasantly surprised.
Posted by Jaber  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  06:18 PM
I'm 32 and I can hear it. It is quite annoying and I don't know if I'd ever hear it if the cell phone was in my pocket.

Sounds just like my old cheapy TV set.

Even now after I've turned off the MP3 my ears are still ringing.
Posted by Simon  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  06:39 PM
i am 36 and i could not hear anything but static and laughter with a clanging noise in the background. my daughter who is almost 4, couldn't hear anything other than that, either. my dog, who is 5, didn't even prick up his ears.
not that i don't believe you all, but probably my speakers just couldn't handle it. they are crap.
Posted by thephrog  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  06:53 PM
I can hear it chrystal clear and it drives my dog crazy. I am a legally blind individual though so my hearing is very adapted. I often get headaches fromt he soun of security alarms, light systems, etc. in stores.
Posted by tim  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  10:41 PM
OMG! That is SERIOUSLY annoying!

I'm 18 and i've got some seriously good hearing, regardless of the fact that i blast my music-etc.

I'd have to say though, if someone played that tone in a confined space and i couldn't switch it off, i'd go insane pretty darn quick. It's so darn hi-pitched!

I need to clean up the audio file a bit but i'm thinking about using this to deter yobs from my local stores whenever i go to pick up the paper or something. It'd be good to use if i had some headphones or earplugs to block the sound out with.

Methinks it's time for a little mayhem! :D
Posted by NJ  on  Sat May 27, 2006  at  11:43 PM
I'm 36, my partner is 45, and we can both hear it quite clearly. (Note that when we were younger we were both very irritated by things like TV hum and dog whistles.)

It hurts my ears - little stabby pains. He says he feels it more than hears it and it seems to sorta resonate through his sinuses. We agree it's quite annoying.

It's quite possible that the sound as heard in an mp3 differs substantially from the original. In any case, I find the product concept distasteful and wish adults would quit trying to drive teens away from public spaces whilst providing no alternatives for entertainment or socializing.
Posted by drogheda  on  Sun May 28, 2006  at  01:43 AM
Heard this story on NPR last week (in other words, this is old news). They did an interview with the inventor of the mosquito repellent sound and his daughter (from England, of course). Using the ringtone in class to get instant messages without tipping off their teachers. Vibrating phones can still be heard, so this works. They claim that most teachers over 30 do not hear it, but younger ones do and "bust" them. Check it out yourself at NPR.org...
Posted by Mike  on  Sun May 28, 2006  at  12:03 PM
Keep in mind, this was promoted as a mosquito and TEENAGER repellent in England. They say it works too...
Posted by Mike Again  on  Sun May 28, 2006  at  12:05 PM
I'm 27 and I can hear it. It drills my head.
Posted by Dorima  on  Sun May 28, 2006  at  06:47 PM
Ugh, the only thing I could hear was that annoying, high-pitched pulsing. I'm 18, and already kind of sensitive to sound, so this would DEFINATELY drive me crazy.
Posted by Lauren  on  Sun May 28, 2006  at  08:09 PM
I didn't ever listen to it. I hear high pitched whiney noises all day long. It's called having a two year old.

Is it the same sound that comes from general electronics? I go crazy hearing that.
Posted by Maegan  on  Mon May 29, 2006  at  05:50 AM
You can download generated sine audio directly to file and try to listen:

http://syslog.eu/index.php/2006/05/29/ucitele_neslysi_vyzvaneni_mobilu

I am able to hear 15 kHz.
Posted by Sniff  on  Mon May 29, 2006  at  06:29 AM
About 2 weeks ago, the inventor of the teenage deterrent device and a woman denouncing the lack of knowledge of it's long term effects were on BBC Breakfast time.

On the assumption they weren't hoaxed, it's possbile. The phone speakers just have to be up to the job.
Posted by playtime  on  Tue May 30, 2006  at  05:09 PM
im 40 and i can hear the mosquito sound. i'm surprised that it is reproduced by an mp3, since i'd have thought it cuts off around 20k. perhaps its not a simple frequency.

i do have to turn up the sound to hear it. its more of a sensation than a sound. i used to get this a lot with tv sets and monitors.

i haven't tried this on a phone, whether it works there is another story. however, the sound is very undirectional and would easily be muffled by pockets.
Posted by clinicallyobeast  on  Sun Jun 04, 2006  at  07:15 PM
Yeah.... Comes out loud and clear on my cell... well... for me. My parents can't hear it but my brother and I can. (ages 22 and 17). I am going to get a real kick out of this with my friends at school! It is really annoying when it is played on computer speakers but on the cell it is just a soft high frequence. I don't think it will produce any headaches unless it is listened to in excess. Oh... I didn't use the mosquito thing. I just downloaded a pure 1800 Hz Sine wave mp3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/audio/mosquito_sound.mp3
Posted by Ryan  on  Tue Jun 06, 2006  at  07:36 PM
This thing is fun, i tried all of them and my parents couldnt hear any of them. But it drove my sister crazy. I think this is more fun this vibration because you can hear it and no one else can. Thats why its fun. For your information i am 18, my sis is 16. lots of fun
Posted by Eddie III  on  Wed Jun 07, 2006  at  02:39 PM
I'm almost 40 years old and can hear it, but only with the computer sound at max and my headphones on. It sounds like a pulsed chirping sound to me (the kids in the background are much louder than the sound).

Assuming that the sound can get through to kids when they're not paying attention to anything in class, I can see how this would be a problem (except for you guys who use it in class <g>).
Posted by Carlos  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  09:16 AM
Dang, I'm 34 and I can't hear it for squat. Maybe that's a good thing. I did play it with Windows Media Player and turned on the graphic bar visualization and you can clearly see the high-pitched frequencies driving up the bars on the far end. When someone bangs against a chain link fence it sends the bars up that are at just a slightly lower frequency, and I can hear that, but I can't hear any of the squealing cricket/mosquito sound. I've got a great 5.1 DD setup so I'm sure the system will reproduce it -- guess I'm just too old to "enjoy" it. Looks like I'm stuck with using the vibrate option for my top secret voicemails. <grin>
Posted by Markus  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  09:23 AM
I couldn't hear the linked sound in the article above but I could hear the high frequency 'repellent' sound on NPR's website -- here's a link to that one -- http://download.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/atc/atc_teenbuzz.mp3

Annoying as all get up when you turn your speakers to full volume. I'm 34 though and I would refuse to shop at any store that played this annoying sound outside of its store.
Posted by Mark  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  09:37 AM
Im 37 and I could hear the pitched bussing on my headset, pretty well. Then again, I have 10/20 vision too. Funny I can read what is on my co-workers computer screens from dam near across the room.
Posted by Not your averge old guy  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  10:39 AM
That is very very annoying. I'm 23 and I can hear it with my volume half down it drives me absolutely insane.

Though I've always had good hearing, selective, but good. I've got the type of hearing that can tell a TV is on at the other end of the house even if its muted. Drives me nutz too.

It would definately keep me from shopping there.
Posted by me  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  01:01 PM
I am in my early 30's and I can hear the sound, like a high pitch chirp. I agree, if I were in a room of cellphones with this tone, It will not be pretty.
Posted by Michelle Correia  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  01:08 PM
I am 33 and I heard the buzz with my volume turned almost off. It really gave me a headache. As a teacher, if I heard the noise I would really lose it. I would require all phones off and on my desk, and lots of parents would be notified.
Posted by Michelle Correia  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  01:16 PM
I am 28 and at first I could not hear it but could feel it in my ears and also gave me a headache with my volume set at my normal level. But I have 3 children ages 7, 5 & 5 and they all heard it instantly. My oldest daughter said it was hurting her head. And they described it the same way everyone else has, a loud pulsating chirping noise. Well I then turned my speakers all the way up and I was able to hear it a little bit. I also went to that other site someone on here recommended and I instantly heard that, loud and clear! I think I would shot someone who had a ringtone like that!
Posted by Shannon  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  03:07 PM
The link on the original blog is a crappy version. The noise is almost completely drowned out by the street noise. If that were to go off in a classroom, the teacher may not be able to hear the high pitched part, but would definitely hear the street noise. Here is a better recording of the ringtone..... http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/audio/nyregion/20060610_RINGTONE.mp3
Posted by Hunt  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  03:35 PM
For those of you who want to play with this sound, I made a WAV file of a 17KHz tone. You can download it here: http://www.jetcityorange.com/MosquitoRingtone.html

Dont' forget that MP3 files use lossey compression and that cell phones probably can't recreate 17000 Hz sounds accurately.

Enjoy!

JetCityOrange.com
Posted by Jerry Whiting  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  04:31 PM
I'm 38, and I couldn't hear anything except the street noises, although maybe having the TV on at the time covered it up. TV equipment makes an audible hum for me. But I sure did get a headache almost immediately when I put my ears next to the computer speakers.
Posted by Phoenix  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  06:06 PM
here's a url of the sound:
http://download.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/atc/atc_teenbuzz.mp3
Posted by Weeso  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  06:36 PM
> wish adults would quit trying to drive teens away
> from public spaces whilst providing no alternatives
> for entertainment or socializing.

Now who's stereotyping whom here? Not all adults are trying to drive teens away, and not all adults are opposed to providing alternatives. (Yes, yes, I know that you claim to be closer to middle-age than teenage. But that only reinforces my conviction that you ought to know better.)

Here's the problem: The adults who are using the Mosquito are generally doing it for specific and generally responsible reasons -- to reduce shoplifting (a primarily teen/young adult sport), to reduce perceived intimidation of paying customers (some frail elderly people will go to other stores than shoulder their way past "mean-looking" teens and young adults), to reduce vandalism (also a primarily teen/young adult sport).

Even if you don't like the particular method chosen, you can hardly fault a convenience store for trying to minimize thefts, can you?

The adults who ought to be providing the alternatives are the ones who are failing here. The store owner shouldn't have to ante up for new windows to replace the broken ones AND pay for a "teen center" to 'provide constructive alternatives' while the teens, parents and politicians all sit on their rear ends.

In my books, these are the people who should be solving the fundamental problem (which I might define as too much extra time and energy, combined with too little impulse control (an unfortunate biological reality) but that's just the "I grew up so busy on a farm that I can't believe these kids actually have enough time to get in trouble" in me).

For that matter, why don't the teens hang out at home? Surely in a group of a dozen teens you can come up with ONE person who's parents aren't homeless/abusive/hateful and would be happy to let the kids come over for a visit instead of standing on the street corner.

(Perhaps this idea fails for the same reason that taxpayer-supported teen centers usually fail: the taxpayer demands a certain level of adult supervision and education content, and shortly after it opens to great fanfare, the teens refuse to show up because it's no more fun than going to school.)


I see these as completely separate issues: the adults who suffer financial losses from antisocial teen behavior have NO special responsibility for solving the kids' fundamental problems. They just have to protect their own businesses in the manner of their choosing, whether that's Mozart, the Mosquito, or a private security staff.

The teens, parents, and politicians, however, should be dealing with this problem no matter what the business owner is doing. The fundamental problem belongs to them.
Posted by Ann  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  06:50 PM
wow i could totally hear it! i must have good hearing, and my mom cant hear it. its really cool but its givin me a bit of a headache. where can you download it?
Posted by naomie  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  06:51 PM
OMG THAT IS SOOO ANNOYING!! I just read an article on msn.com that was concerning this new ringtone and how it fooled adults, but I didn't believe it myself. Curious as I am, I immediately went on google and tried to find it. At this one site, (whose URL I have completely forgotten), I was unable to hear it at all. However, when I came here just now, I could hear it quite clearly on low with my speakers. I'm only 17, so maybe it's a good thing that I can hear it. Wow, I think if I set that as my ringtone, I'd annoy the hell out of my classmates when my phone received a message or a call. But other than that, that's what the "silent" or "vibrate" mode is for.
Posted by Mina  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  07:31 PM
I'm 17 and my little brother is 12, we both heard it clearly in the background of that mp3, it was quite annoying. My dad, however, is 46, and could not hear anything out of ordinary street noises. So I guess it works on mp3, so it obviously works on phones. Teens wouldn't be using them in class and being distruptive if senile shopkeepers didn't need to drive them away by playing pesky noises.
Posted by Colin  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  08:40 PM
I'm 15 and I can hear the sound clearly, my mother is 54 however and can only hear the other noises in the background. I even let her listen to it through my headphones and she still says she can't hear anything unusual. It definately sounds like a really high pitched, long, pulsing squeek sound.
Posted by Young  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  11:03 PM
I'm 30 and could hear it just fine,i can definetly see how it would get really annoying.
It does sort of sound like someone put a tape recorder out in the middle of a field to record cricket sounds.
Not very impressed,and doubt it'll be around for very long.
people enjoy playing music ringtones to much.
Posted by lokie  on  Mon Jun 12, 2006  at  11:28 PM
I'm 12 and I didn't hear it, but my younger brother (who's 10, btw) heard it. ;|
Posted by Almas  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  12:46 AM
It does sort of sound like someone put a tape recorder out in the middle of a field to record cricket sounds.

Erk, if that's true (I haven't listened to any of the recordings, since I don't have any speakers or headphones attached to my computer), then I've been listening to that for the past 1 and a half days at work. Wretched air conditioning.
Posted by Smerk  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  12:56 AM
I'm 40, and I can hear that damn thing too well.
Posted by Patrick McKinnion  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  01:18 AM
My mobile (N6630) doesn't play this file. It says unsupported file format, even tried with OggPlay.
Posted by Saggy  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  05:48 AM
suprise... I didn
Posted by Kitty  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  06:04 AM
Hmm.... Well, for what it's worth, I used a tone generator to test my hearing, I heard the ringtone fine on the TV, it was apparently somewhere in the 13500-14000 Hz range, NOT even 15000, I'm fairly sure. Tested my own ears using my 'puter and mediocre speakers, I can detect somewhere up to maybe a bit over 20000, start to be able to actually "hear a tone" at just a little above 14000, with progessive lose of ability to detect tone. Was wathing Good Morning America, did the test with the TV in the background with volume at normal easy to hear level, TV playing, too. Lowest range I can hear good is down into the high 30's.

I'm 44 in July '06
Posted by Joey  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  06:08 AM
the sound was meant to be a teen repellent, but as it seems more than just teens can hear, plus its really not that bad, no worse than the ringing in ones ears
o ive also noticed that it really only takes your hands to block the sound, so much for teen repellent
Posted by Vlad the Impaler  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  10:34 AM
I'm 43, I've had the ring tone on my phone for weeks. I use it as the ring tone for when my ex-wife calls. My dad can hear it and he's in his 70s. So I consider this one busted, hearing loss is age related but also depends on the person and their enviroment and how it affects them over time.

Hey, maybe when cellphones can play much higher frequencies, we can make ring tones for dogs. 😊
Posted by Brian  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  10:45 AM
Maybe I am just lucky, but I sampled these ringtones, including the one that states most people can't hear it. I can hear them, I must admit they are annoying and I did have to turn up the volume on my speakers. The kicker is I just turned 60!
Posted by roger  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  12:01 PM
how do you download the mp3 to your phone? my phone is capable i know but i don't know how to do it. do i browse to the website directly from my phone? will it download that way?
Posted by Natasha  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  12:46 PM
Hey, I'm 39 years old and about to be 40 in July, I can hear this noise. It is the same noise that is emitted from a television set that's recently been turned on. Only difference is that this particular sample is a distinct pulsating emission. I guess you can say that I'm still young!!
Posted by Melvin Jennings  on  Tue Jun 13, 2006  at  02:38 PM
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