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FEMA Plan to Use Pastors as Pacifiers
Status: Unlikely
An article has begun to circulate around the internet warning of a secret government plan to enlist pastors in an evil plan to create a submissive populace:
A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation. In March of this year the Pastor, who we shall refer to as Pastor Revere, was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency. The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.
And it goes on and on in this style. The article originally comes from prisonplanet.com, which is a conspiracy-theory site. Tellingly, the article doesn't provide any verifiable source for its claims. The story relies solely upon the word of "Pastor Revere". Of course, as Marx said, religion is the opium of the masses, so such a plan wouldn't be all that farfetched, but it seems a bit unnecessary. After all, isn't pacifying and brainwashing the populace what Fox News is for?
Posted By: Alex | Date: Tue May 30, 2006 | Permalink | Total Comments: 24
Category: Conspiracy Theories, Religion
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Oh SNAP!

Actually... while I agree that Fox News is certainly brainwashing the American public, the pacification (is that a word?) of the people is intended for the government, while encouraging them to be aggressive towards the lefty commie liberal pinkos.
Posted by AqueousBoy  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  06:13 AM
I think it's quite likely that FEMA representatives would encourage pastors to do their part to keep people calm during and after disasters. That's a bit different, though, from plotting with the pastors to brainwash the populace.
Posted by Accipiter  in  the Northern Hemisphere, unless They have lied.  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  08:44 AM
My biggest problem with conspiracy theorists, is that their making much of highly-unlikely evils detracts from the completely outrageous, out-in-the-open real evils.

For example, they made much of a possible conspiracy with Diebold and the voting machines in Ohio while ignoring the outrage of millions of dollars of corporate campaign finance and the 30,000 or so full-time registered DC lobbyists both of which completely undermine democratic elections.

Or, the case in point--as opposed to the outrage of appointing Brownie as head of FEMA to begin with?
Posted by JoeDaJuggler  in  St. Louis, MO  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  09:40 AM
What is interesting is that the book of Romans (which tells us to obey)was written by Paul and Paul is exposed for being a false apostle.

Are we really to obey the magistrates?

King Herod told the wise men to report to him where Christ was and God told the wise men NOT to go back to Herod.

Daniel wouldn't obey the king and was put into a fire and was protected by the angel of the Lord.

Paul's doctrine was used by hitler to get the christians behind him.

To learn why Paul was a false apostle, go to the following:

http://www.returntorighteousness.blogspot.com
Posted by return to righteousness  in  the world  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  11:54 AM
In my language we have the saying "you shouldn't believe everything you read".

One day, someone had the bright idea to switch two words in this saying, making it an even more valuable advice for certain people: "you shouldn't read everything you believe".

In short: get a life !!!
Posted by Henri  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  01:34 PM
Heh, FEMA can tell all the pastors to preach obedience, but that doesn't mean they'll do it.

I'm sure the IRS wants pastors to tell people to pay taxes, but look what happens.
Posted by Big Gary  in  Gun Barrel City, Texas, USA  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  02:53 PM
While everyone is whining about their favorite anti-conservative issues, everyone is missing an obvious conflict. "Pastors" in America for the most part, but not all (there is the disclaimer) would be totally against property and gun confiscation and a NWO. If anyone has missed the End Times movement of the Western Christian community during the last few decades then they must be living in Osama's cave. Saying ministers would ever support and teach a FEMA take over is like making Oscar the grouch the poster child for enviromentalism. Anyway Alex Jones is a con, look at the pics and video he has on his web site, there is nothing odd about many of the pics except that he has created a frightening context around them, such as the "detention camps" on all these military bases. His videos are also psychologicaly wrong, mostly staged or recording everyday events and placing them in a new context.
Posted by Lonewatchman  on  Wed May 31, 2006  at  02:58 PM
Accipiter got it quite right: I'm in health/community services and attended a FEMA meeting on community readiness for disasters. They talked quite a bit about the potential roles of clergy during disasters and a lot of the talk was about helping people keep calm and providing emotional and mental health support. I could see how that could easily get twisted into a brainwashing agenda.
Posted by The Manichean Candidate  on  Fri Jun 02, 2006  at  04:55 AM
The article you link to has supporting documents at the bottom. 33 pages from the FEMA meeting that "Pastor Revere" attended.
http://www.infowars.com/images2/ps/pastor_fema_docs.pdf
Posted by JSulli  in  FL  on  Tue Jun 06, 2006  at  09:16 PM
This does not look like a hoax to me. The infowars document looks genuine, and genuinely scary. Looks like a great excuse to cancel elections, or worse.
Posted by A Reader  in  denial  on  Sun Jun 11, 2006  at  04:01 AM
So why not have someone submit this to FEMA and have them publicly denounce it? If it's a hoax they should be willing to renounce all connection with it, eh?
Posted by One who is watching closely  in  S. Louisiana  on  Sun Jul 02, 2006  at  10:39 PM
I've seen the powerpoint printout sheets before... They're a part of planning by emergency management agencies for response in case of a pandemic situation. The first part about counseling is NOT a part of the package that's being used in discussion... It does look like a checklist commonly used by pastors when they're doing trauma counselling. It looks like someone assembled several different documents together to make up that PDF...
Posted by Some guy..  on  Sat Aug 18, 2007  at  08:45 PM
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987

Okay, here's a report from a 'Pastor' who essentially verifies what was posted before. Now what?
Posted by One who is watching closely  in  3rd Coast  on  Tue Aug 21, 2007  at  05:11 PM
This has now been confirmed in news reports.

Homeland Security Enlists Clergy to Quell Public Unrest if Martial Law Ever Declared
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987

Bush's clergy response gun confiscation teams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_o62WhQrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5PC7z79-8&eurl=
National Guard Confiscating Guns in New Orleans
Posted by JJ  in  SD  on  Fri Sep 14, 2007  at  10:06 PM
Yeah... now what? I checked the links and one was from a local news station. You idiots can use your "well I've never lived through anything like that before, so it must be BS" logic all you want... I would think for myself and do a little more research before I post it as a "hoax"... morons.
Posted by lone nut  in  dallas  on  Mon Feb 04, 2008  at  03:57 AM
Well, let's ask the church goers? Have your pastors been plugging romans 13 in an "obey the government no matter what" context?

Surely with as many people who were supposedly given the order to preach it, we'll be seeing it happen.
Posted by shad0cat  on  Tue May 20, 2008  at  12:48 PM
While the inference in this article is that all of this is one big "conspiracy hoax/theory" with very little actual fact or truth to back it up, I challenge ALL to do their own due diligent research and keypunching in finding out the facts and see whether or not this info can be proven a hoax. Being a Jesus freak myself I can see what is really going on in this land of foolishness and know that Alex Jones has thoroughly researched his info before bringing it to the public. I highly recommend watching "TerrorStorm Special Edition" before discounting any of this. Remember, a conspiracy is two or more people engaged in an illegal/unlawful activity. Think we've got any of that going on in this country? J Edgar Hoover: "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." Thanks for your time.
Posted by Gregory-Alan: Johnson  on  Thu Jul 17, 2008  at  08:43 PM
Clearly NOT a hoax. They are being trained to teach people to turn in their guns when the tanks start rolling "for our protection." Learn simple world history, and realize we are not immune from this. It is actually happening here, right now. I know lots are saying this right now, but I'll say it anyways...Wake Up People
Posted by Henry  in  San Francisco  on  Tue Nov 04, 2008  at  08:03 AM
Necromancers are here to raise the thread!

Stopping by to say, "Congratulations, you're wrong!" Told ya so, told ya so! Sure, I agree you need to be skeptical, but when you decide to debunk a story by pulling opinions out of your ass, you might as well be a Holocaust denier too. I'm sure most of the German people had no idea Jews were being gassed and sent into the ovens, but with an OP like Alex, I'm not surprised the people were left in ignorance until it was too late.

Yeah, I know the other Alex (Jones) writes sensationalist BS at times, but instead of plugging your ears, open your eyes. Do a search, call the news stations that reported on this, and then come to a conclusion -- placing the onus is utter laziness in this technological age.

Status: Sad, but true.
Posted by Liberty or Death  in  Washington  on  Tue Nov 04, 2008  at  11:24 AM
Okay, if this is a big conspiracy, why did a mainstream news station do a report on it? Here's the link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/160807_quell_dissent.htm

Now this link goes to prisonplanet, but they have the video clip and link from a KSLA 12 news report confirming the very thing you idiots deny! Wake up!
Posted by Andy in Chicago  on  Tue Nov 04, 2008  at  11:55 AM
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