Philippine Urban Legends (Jose Rizal was Jack the Ripper)
Status: urban legends
An article from the Philippine Daily Inquirer records some Philippine urban legends: the "White Lady" of Balete Drive, Robina Gokongwei's "snake twin" lurking in department store dressing rooms, the elusive "kapre" that lives in an ancient mango tree near the Emilio Aguinaldo house in Kawit town, and Andres Bonifacio's love child from a place aptly named Libog (now Santo Domingo) in Albay province. None of those mean much to me. But most of the article is devoted to discussing two other Philippine legends that are of more general interest. The first one is that Jose Rizal, the national hero of the Philippines,
"was the father of Adolf Hitler, the result of an indiscretion with a prostitute in Vienna." The second one is that Jose Rizal was also Jack the Ripper:
Rizal was in London from May 1888 to January 1889, in the British Library copying "Sucesos de las islas Filipinas" by hand because there were no photocopying machines at the time. Jack the Ripper was active around this time, and since we do not know what Rizal did at night or on the days he was not
in the library, some people would like to believe Rizal is suspect. They argue that when Rizal left London, the Ripper murders stopped. They say that Jack the Ripper must have had some medical training, based on the way his victims were mutilated. Rizal, of course, was a doctor. Jack the Ripper liked women, and so did our own Rizal. And -- this is so obvious that many overlooked it -- Jose Rizal's initials match those of Jack the Ripper!
If Jack the Ripper did turn out to be Filipino, that would throw a wrench in his status as the
Most Evil Brit of all time.
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Six: You said it to "mock me", huh? So, you're finally admitting that you're deliberately insulting me?
Seven: It is, or should be. Your point being...?
Eight: I could say that, but then I'd be lying. And remind me again why I have to give any of my personal details to you, an insignificant civilian who doesn't have any authority whatsoever over me? And while you're at it, could you explain what my Internet access has to do with the topic? And please answer this one, I know you ignore questions that you can't answer, so I'm making sure you don't have that convenient option available to you.
There's a perfectly valid reason for my taking a long time to reply, but I am under no compulsion to explain it to a nobody like you. Suffice it to say that I have limited Internet time (but not because I go to a cafe) and frankly, I can think of a lot of better things to do with that time than talk to an attention-starved loser like you.
Excuses? Like what? You know, I noticed another of your tactics: you try to provoke me, then when I respond, you say I'm on the defensive. Why don't you go back to grade school, your mind's still at that level.
Nine: So they did. Which proves what, exactly?
I might remind you that some people have insulted you too. I suppose this is yet another example of how you ignore facts that don't agree with your case.
And about keeping an open mind? I've thought seriously about this, and I've concluded that Rizal is not Jack the Ripper. It's not within his character, and there is NO actual evidence. You're confusing open-mindedness with lunacy.
Ten: I've also thought about this, and I've decided that you're the one who doesn't know the meaning of suspect, or hypocrite for that matter. However, you have yet to be enlightened. And stop mentioning the others, you only mention them when they support you, isn't that unfair?
You pointed it out? Others pointed it out? Did you not see my response, you immoral bastard? Or are you ignoring it in the hopes that I won't remember, since you can't answer. I said: I'm not a hypocrite because it's my policy to insult back when others insult me first. If they don't, then I don't. I think that's fair. You are a hypocrite because you have the nerve to criticize me for name-calling when you started it in the first place. How dare you. This is the fourth or so time I've said this, and you have not yet been unable to respond. Now who lost? :D
"As for "not answering your questions""
Here's a thought: Why don't you just go and give an example instead of going into all these contortions? It's getting painful to watch. What's that? You can't?
Posted by concerned Filipino in Manila, the Philippines on Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 10:37 PM
Oh, and something else you may want to know. I told one guy that I met someone on the Internet who thinks Jose Rizal was Jack the Ripper, and he went "LOL". I told another guy, and he said "What the f***?!" The third person I told said you're retarded. That was the tamest part of his response. So I guess I win that one. Sorry.
And you still, after I asked you twice, haven't explained how you can say you don't take anything as a fact, and in the same breath, say you showed me facts. I demand an answer, so you can embarrass yourself further.
And you still haven't explained how you can deny that you're a hypocrite, and even worse that that, call me a hypocrite, I already explained my policy, and you're clearly at fault for starting the name-calling. I hope you'll stop evading the issue, as is your wont, and answer this.
And you still haven't explained to me how you can call yourself someone skilled in the field of debate, or say you're carrying on a serious discussion, when you keep resorting to personal attacks. I know why I'm doing it - it's in response to yours. What's your excuse? s it because you think there's nothing wrong with "mocking" others? Is it because you don't realize it's not even related to the topic, and you're making one fallacy after another? Is it because you're desperate and have nothing else to say, but you have to respond or else you'll be humiliated? Is it because you got so "pikon" from my arguments that you lost control? Yeah, that must be it. Why don't you just admit it? Admit you lost. Admit you were trying to provoke me into a flame war, since that's all you're good at? Admit you're just trolling?
I'm waiting.
Posted by concerned Filipino in Manila, the Philippines on Thu Apr 12, 2007 at 10:38 PM
"I'm sorry, but when the police are looking for a killer, do they investigate everyone living near or associated with the victim?" LOL!!! So before you had to study, now it's by decision you don't hang out here? The value of money right now is about $1=P50. If it's not important, why even use it? I never said I didn't name call you fool. I know I do, but you are so self righteous and quick to call others hypocritical so I pointed it out. "...deliberately insulting me?" I had to point that out loser? There's a perfectly valid reason for my taking a long time to reply, but I am under no compulsion to explain..." you already said you had to study. Contradictions, contradictions! "...isn't that unfair?" stop whining. they support me because i'm not a robot like yourself. You repeat what you know to exhaustion. Domo arigatou mr. roboto! People you met on the internet, so you say. I am boring to talk to yet you talk about me outside of this. I'm very flattered. Contradictions :D Once again I never denied my name calling. You whine so much. I never said this was serious, you did. I won, you were provoked which you claim was my intentions so I won. You contradict yourself in enumerous amount of times. you are not worth talking to. If I continued to repeat myself, then I'd be like you. Read again. 1 Post vs 3 Posts. I own you.
Posted by eon in nyc on Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 03:03 AM
wala naman nakaka-alam ng katotohanan eh. salita kayo ng salita, hindi nyo naman alam kung ano ang nangyari. kung alam na natin, edi nahuli na si jack the ripper diba? concerned pinoy tumigil ka na. pinapahiya mo tayo. pinapakita mo na wala kang alam eh. of course naman kapag may crime, ang pinakamalapit sa victim ang ini-investigahan. nanay, tatay, mga kapatid, kapitbahay, at iba pa. opinion ko lang.
Posted by bypasser in balayan,bt on Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 06:49 AM
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
"I own you"
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
you do though
Posted by smws girl in makati on Fri Apr 13, 2007 at 05:55 PM
I rest my case.
Posted by eon in nyc on Mon Apr 16, 2007 at 06:58 AM
i totally forgot about everything...you know what they say, out of sight, out of mind...anyway...from what i gathered...the most solid information that points the whitechapel murders to masonry are the way the women were killed and writing on the wall. "The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing." Juwes in masonry are the three men that killed Hiram Abiff, King Solomon's architect. It is the culmination of Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubelum. The women suffered the same fate as the Juwes. I will continue to search :D
Posted by eon in nyc on Fri Apr 27, 2007 at 07:49 AM
i don't know. It's all just circumstancial evidence at this point. But it got me thinking how many short,dark-skinned,dark-haired guys there were in the very white population of britain during the 1800's.
Posted by AcerPhillie in las pinas on Sun Jul 15, 2007 at 05:45 PM
Guys can you please grow up and stop arguing? Consider and accept each claim maturely please...God...You people say you're skilled in debates when you're already doing argumentum ad ignorantiams, argumentum ad hominems,argumentum ad baculums, and non sequitors.
Posted by AcerPhillie on Sun Jul 15, 2007 at 05:52 PM
Wahahaha... Filipinos(like peeps with Filipino blood, not necessarily Filipino citizens but may be Filipino citizens... just to be clear.) are idiots. Period. And man, you people talk like you're from America or Europe or something. And who cares whether Rizal was Jack the Ripper or not? Rizal was a womanizer who spent most of his time in Europe. The AMERICANS chose RIZAL to be the PHILIPPINE National Hero. WTF?! Hahaha... Why don't they just make Rizal their National Hero, huh? Crazy people. Americans do orgies. Monkeys do orgies. Americans are monkeys. Hahaha
Posted by blah on Mon Nov 26, 2007 at 06:22 AM
helo................rizal is a unique man
Posted by dareen in philippines on Mon Nov 26, 2007 at 04:37 PM
I know DR. JOSE RIZAL will not mind everything here which is all against him and the Philippines. We all know how egocentric most western people are. It's useless talking to people who have closed their hearts long time ago.
Posted by You-are-all-morons! in in 7000+ islands of the Phils! on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Can all true Filipinos stop posting on this page? This ALEX thinks he is so popular to start the whole damn thing!
Can't your brain cells serve you better? What a pathetic scheme ALEX!
Posted by You-are-all morons! in 7000+ islands of the Phils! on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Now-now children, this is getting out of hand. Like the mature adults I assume most of us here are, do focus on the subject at hand and minimize hurling insults at one another. Constructive and intellectual criticisms would help instead of the "my horse is bigger than your horse" game. Alright?
Posted by lamballe in Vienna, Austria on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 03:44 AM
Can't we all just get along???
Posted by RuinRomo in nashville on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 03:46 AM
....wat are these? rizal don't need to kill because he's a non-violent individual! stop these... just because their initials were the same... that didn't made him the killer...am sure at that time,, rizal was not the only person who matched the initials!
Posted by amz in philippines on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Lol...dont u people have anything better to do?
Posted by Me on Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 06:56 AM
this urban legend is just plain ridiculous!!!filipinos always believe in anything,hahaha,my god,it;s just like believing that the easter bunny is real.
Posted by Kline in Miami,FL on Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM
it's almost the same as believing in easter.
Posted by god is dead in mountains on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 07:01 AM
Motive. Some less known historical facts (unwritten in undergraduate books) known only to History majors and professors showed that Jose Rizal in his younger days was involved with a prostitute named Maria Kalaw who was living somewhere in Laguna. This was the reason for one of his altercations with his eldest brother who was also like a father to him. Also Rizal did not have a child with Josephine Bracken or any women. Probably as a result of earlier sexually transimitted illness. Rizal had also physically beaten his wife Josephine while in Dapitan which was believed to have resulted into a miscarriage. This could probably be due to Rizal's jealousy or suspicion that it belong to another man if he believe he was rendered infertile by previous sexuall illness.
Could Rizal harbour an anger against prostitutes due to a personal experience that damaged him physically and emotionally?
Those are all speculations which is in no way sufficient for a conclussion but taken together with other facts could be intriguing on this issue.
Posted by eutix in usa on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:23 AM
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