BIOPRO EMF Harmonization Chips

Cranky Media Guy sent me a link to this interesting product: BIOPRO Chips. BIOPRO describes itself as a leader in the field of EMF harmonization devices. You see, you may not have realized it but, as BIOPRO tells you on their website, virtually all electronic devices emit dangerous electromagnetic frequency (EMF). Phones, microwaves, computers... You name it. So what's a person to do? Simple. Get some BIOPRO Chips. These amazing chips are designed to defend against EMF. Apply some of them to your electronic devices, and EMF emissions will be 'harmonized', thereby rendered harmless. It took me a while before I figured out exactly what these 'chips' were. But then I figured it out. 'Chips' is a euphemism for 'stickers'. BIOPRO is selling little stickers that are supposed to protect people against 'electro-pollution'. Of course, the website contains no explanation of how or why these stickers would work. Obviously that's because these stickers won't do anything but lighten your wallet by a substantial amount.

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Posted on Wed Apr 13, 2005



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Joseph said:

Joseph said:

"Interesting reply to my email.

"I cannot speak physics with you as i am a business major, but i will say this, personal testimonials sell a product better than any other marketing i have seen. now, before you jump to your cranky conclusion, let me elaborate with this: i mean word of mouth testimonials. when people start talking about a product or service they believe in, its easy to sell a product. my reference to phone calls from clients was not a "selling point", but rather a "maybe the technology really does work and people are actually feeling a difference point." see the difference?"

I have no doubt that testimonials help sell product, but what does that have to do with whether or not the product WORKS? The way to determine that--the only accurate way--is by proper scientific testing. Either it works or it doesn't.

"i ran across this forum and i thought id drop a line based on my experience of the products, not argue who is right or the physics of technology that i doubt you could actually keep up with. (sorry for the assumption, no foul intended)."

Yes, that's right, I'm SO STUPID that I couldn't POSSIBLY understand your bogus "scientific" mumbo-jumbo. Duh. Hey, wait! I thought you were a business major and not capable of speaking physics. Are you a sales-weasel or a genius in undiscovered-by-the-scientific-mainstream physics?

"when i muscle test people for other products that claim they do the same ours does, there is absolutly no difference in their strength. however, with our products, people feel how it works through kinesiology."

Are you referring to that bullshit where the thing being "tested" is placed in the person's hand and if they don't resist your pushing on their arm to your satisfaction, that somehow "proves" something or other? THAT'S the "science" that Stupid Ol' Me couldn't possibly understand? Um, I know enough to know that that is discredited horseshit.

"check out clarus.com for info and research on the Qlink, and yes, we do sell the Qlink."

And as I tried to get you to explain before, how does the QLink relate to the BIOPRO Chips? They're two different products, right, so how does talking about one of them tell me anything about the other?

"i never said tiger endorsed out product, however i think its interesting that he has asked for two of them."

I hear he asked for two shoes in a department store, too. I guess that proves that shoes "harmonize EMF." What ELSE could it possibly mean?

continued...
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Thu Apr 28, 2005  at  03:57 AM
...continued

"You make a good arguement as to tiger wearing the product for the look, but have you seen our products? they dont look that appealing!"

I'll take your word about the unattractiveness of your products. As for Tiger Woods liking the way they look, I was merely proposing that as one possible reason why he might have wanted to own them, assuming that he actually does, that is. Not that a SALESPERSON would EVER lie about something that might help sell his product.

"nevertheless, loosen up a little bit and if you want to become a distibutor let me know. I am confident i have sold you on the products and the business, i look forward to hearing from you!"

You can look forward to it all you want, but it ain't gonna happen, Bub! Life's too short to waste any of it on selling crap to the gullible.

As for your confidence that you have sold me on the products, I only wish I could attach a sound file to this message--although Dumb Ol' Me would have to bring in a technician to handle a technical job like that--so you could hear me laughing at that ridiculous notion. I trust I have made my position on this clear.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Thu Apr 28, 2005  at  03:59 AM
your inability to leave your own insecurities out of a discussion and stay on point has become more frustrating than i can take.

i never referred to you as stupid. i even put a disclaimer in my post incase my asssumption was wrong. why would you write..."
Yes, that's right, I'm SO STUPID that I couldn't POSSIBLY understand your bogus "scientific" mumbo-jumbo. Duh."?

is your reading comprehension really that bad, or are you so insecure in regards to your own
knowledge and education that you really did think i meant you were stupid?

"I have no doubt that testimonials help sell product, but what does that have to do with whether or not the product WORKS? The way to determine that--the only accurate way--is by proper scientific testing. Either it works or it doesn't." through kinesiology people can feel a difference immediatley, over time they feel a difference in their body, thus the product sells. more research should become available in coming weeks, i will link that onto here.

for now, relazx and study the website so when i sign you up to distribute the product you know what to say....thanks....joseph

Qlink and biopro use the same technology, that is why i refernce to Qlink. point taken on tiger woods, i guess golfdigest.com is inaccurate when they talk about golfers and products they use. please forgive my ignorance.
Posted by joseph  on  Thu Apr 28, 2005  at  02:40 PM
You really do make me laugh, Joseph. The bottom line here is that you peddle crap by spewing pseudo-scientific nonsense. You can indulge in all the personal attacks you want but nothing will change those basic facts. Y

I notice that you don't even attempt to respond to the questions I asked you. Why, it's almost as if you KNOW that the crap you sell doesn't work (other than the placebo effect of course) and you CAN'T give reasonable answers.

Tell you what. If you sincerely believe in those stupid "resins" or whatever they are, why don't you show the world how scientifically effective they are by applying for the James Randi Educational Foundation's prize? Go to randi.org for the details. There's a million dollars waiting for you if you can prove they work under controlled conditions. You wouldn't even have to explain HOW they work; you'd just have to PROVE THAT THEY DO. Since you're so sure they work, this should be easy money for you.

Why do you keep making yourself look foolish by insisting that I'm going to become a distributor for your crap? Hell will get a hockey franchise before that happens. I don't even want to sell legitimate products, let along phony nonsense marketed to the gullible.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Fri Apr 29, 2005  at  02:56 AM
The QLinks and the Harmonization Chips are bogus. On any http://www.mybiopro.com/dealerhere website you will see a research section. . . Now if any of you have taken calculous (I took Calc I & II in college) you will see probability derivatives in this research. Well to make a long story short these products do not care about actual EMF. These products only care about radiating heat.

These people believe that since we are made up of water than the overheating will have negative effects on us.

Another thing that just makes me laugh is the attack on computers. I am a computer technician and I can tell you that if your CPU Box is not shielding EMF, then I want to know how your computer is even working. Computers have to be shielded in order for them to work properly.

I think this companies hoax is to do a network marketing scheme to gather people up so they can make "the long dollar" on this product. Look into their "Business Opportunity" on those websites.

I have no remorse for the stupid people of this planet. If they honestly believe a little chip or a copper/gold pendant is really going to protect them from EMF, let them. These things use a SRT (Sound Resonating Tunnel) to harmonize EMF. Well guess what I did take a lot of physics throughout highschool and college and can tell you that if you can make a sound wave harmonize an EMF wave, you better go and talk to NASA because they are sure going to be needing your input for a thing called a sub-light engine.

I am not totally against looking into things, but when offered the research and this is what I find, well then I can say "NO". The research is non-conclusive as to the adverse effects of EMF on people. The Swedes are conducting a 10 year test of cell phones and cancer. Midway report says. . . oh oh oh. . . Non-conclusive as thus far. Science did not say that they don't just said halfway through they are not sure yet. I like that people who are guessing and testing rather than just throwing out a bunch of radical technical terms that could not even possibly exists at this point in human technology.

I just must say they are doing a good job, because of I have been approached by some of their lackies in my area to buy this. I said well let me look into and then I will get back to you. I looked into it, called the individual back and said nice try.
Posted by phenger  on  Tue Jul 19, 2005  at  09:15 AM
Oh and another thing:

I don't want to hear about testimonials used to sell the product or other media babble. What does "Golf Digest" know about physics. . . Hmmmm not a thing! Tiger Woods is an athlete, well come on let's let club-swinging Stephen Hawking speak on this product. Tiger Woods bought 2? Well I am sure he could afford it (no offense Tiger).

Don't get me wrong, Tiger Woods = excellent athlete, superb golfer in all respects, Tiger Woods != Astrophysicist. Using stars to promote products is just a an ol bandwagon technique. If the QLink could make me play golf like Tiger, I would be all over that monkey.

Now if the thing was in "Popular Science" or some creditable science magazine of the sort, I might look into this more.
Posted by phenger  on  Tue Jul 19, 2005  at  09:26 AM
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Posted by Steve  on  Fri Oct 28, 2005  at  11:00 AM
I was brought aware of this product today from someone trying to get me involved in a pyramid business. I have to admit that the fact of radiation from electronics is a very real issue, but I do not believe that this product has a real benefit. Not to mention the fact that at the end of the information video it states(but only for a brief second) "This product is not intended to cure, or prevent any diseases". After they spend ten minutes saying that it will help stop cancers and feelings of pain and fatigue caused by EMF radiation. BUt of course they have many people claiming they feel much better after using the product. The way I see it placebo's have been known to cure diseases and shows signs of improvement from people suffering from ADD. It all just shows that the biggest disease in the modern world is FEAR!
Posted by Joseph  on  Mon Jan 23, 2006  at  04:30 PM
Joseph said:

"...I do not believe that this product has a real benefit. Not to mention the fact that at the end of the information video it states(but only for a brief second) "This product is not intended to cure, or prevent any diseases"."

Joseph, if you watch TV, you'll see that all the quack crap sold on it has a disclaimer that says "This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease." I assume this is a standardized phrase, possibly mandated by the FDA since it's always worded the same way. Everytime I see it, I think, "Uh, if it doesn't do at least one of those four things, what the hell would I want it for?" After all, "treat" is pretty vague. If a product can't even "treat" whatever my ailment is, isn't it worthless?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Tue Jan 24, 2006  at  01:24 AM
"The BIOPRO Econo Fuel Chips are charged with a proprietary blend of resonant frequencies."

To me this says they are charging this chip with resonant frequencies, would this not make this so called chip an AC battery? If so why are the electric co. not using this technology for storing AC electricity that they generate?
Posted by Alfie  on  Thu Jan 26, 2006  at  06:54 PM
Alfie said:

"To me this says they are charging this chip with resonant frequencies, would this not make this so called chip an AC battery?"

Although I went to electronics school for six months after I graduated from high school way back when, I wasn't a very good student, so I might be wrong here. Feel free to correct me if I AM wrong, but wouldn't an "AC battery" be a breakthrough in electronics? Aren't batteries DC by nature?

This, of course, is just another reason to doubt the claims for these chips.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Fri Jan 27, 2006  at  01:07 AM
You are right it would be a breaktrough.
Posted by Alfie  on  Sat Jan 28, 2006  at  03:40 PM
To get an idea of the mind set of the makers of these bogus devices. Look at the ads on this page, who in there right mind would advertize their product on a fourm that is proving them to be a rip off!
Posted by Alfie  on  Sat Jan 28, 2006  at  03:44 PM
This is taken from:
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
FDA Consumer magazine
November-December 2000
Table of Contents




"With the recent media spotlight on cell phones, cancer researcher John Moulder, Ph.D., warns that some marketers are preying on people's fear of radiation, selling fraudulent devices with claims that they are protective. Moulder has seen a variety of creative but useless items, mostly on the Internet, from pendants worn around the neck to so-called RF-proof lingerie. As to products sold as shields for the phone to cut your RF exposure while not interfering with the communication signal, Moulder says, "I have yet to see one that can do both of those things.""


Read the rest for your self at:

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2000/600_phone.html
Posted by Alfie  on  Mon Jan 30, 2006  at  10:13 PM
I found these comments very interesting, though I feel the discussion got a bit sidetracked by the gun thing. In any case I have included a couple of exerpts that I found on various websites (see end, hoping to refer back to your April 26, 2005 response to Joseph). I am not a salesperson, just curious about these sort of claims. In regards to "infusing resonant frequencies", all objects in nature have this. It's call vibration. The human body is naturally made up of vibrations, energy fields, frequencies, etc. Our bodies are natural conductors of different energies. But, all things in life and nature require balance. For instance: yes, the sun is, in several ways, bad for us, but that is what the ozone layer is for...to protect us (until we screwed it up). Our bodies were not made to "deal" with all of the technology that has popped up in the past century, we need some extra help sometimes.
I don't know about BioPro or Clarus' claims, but I think it is extremely closed-minded to think that something like this (which is more natural than you probably know)is a "bunch of crap". Also, in regards to the US Food and Drug Administraion report: who in their right mind believes all the crap that government agencies feed us?
Exerpts:
It is well known that the human body responds to and is capable of generating various frequencies of activity. Witness the use of MRI and NMR techniques in conventional medical diagnostic procedures. Similarly,cellular DNA has been determined by Lorenzen and others to have a resonant frequency 42 octaves above "middle C" on our musical scale. This has major implications in the fields of neurobiology and biochemistry. These examples utilize known and measurable resonant frequencies for various organs, tissues, liquids, celular constructs and bones and represent science which is routinely used in medical diagnostic procedures worldwide.
Today, sophisticated devices have proven that the human body has a constant flux or flow of electricity through it, so in a sense the human body is an electromagnetic coil or antenna. Human DNA, which is a super coiled double strand molecule, acts as an antenna and is known to emit electromagnetic radiation. Therefore it is fairly easy to understand, how we can be positively influenced by all these natural forms of electromagnetic frequencies. All things in nature seek harmonic balance.
Posted by Sabrina  on  Fri Feb 24, 2006  at  08:04 PM
I bought one for my teenage daughter who is a sensitive enough human to feel differences in her performance to try it out and give me feedback on how she feels each day. I also read up on the experiments and scientific scrutiny that have been legitimately conducted.

The last people I would ever trust with information regarding
products that increase vitality and promote good health in an increasingly health risked world is the U.S. govt, period.

If you want good info you have to search. This is technology that has been researched for 25 years at universities around the world. It's mentioned in their promotional material which places
have conducted studies. If you search for those studies you can see for yourselves what happens to blood, skin and other parts of your whole self when these painstakenly designed inventions
do what they were designed to do.

Ask the cynics to take the time to read everything they can find and then make a statement based on what they observed. If they want to talk before that then it will all be blather. Time to change the channel For a good place to start, type the folllowing into your search engine. The pdf attachment will give you background enough on all the science that has supported the purpoted benefits from using this product.

What's my interest in joining this discussion? Whenever I look up something that I'm intensely interested in, I try to find any information that legitimately refutes what the prospects are of my item in focus. I haven't found it here, so Ill look in a couple more or so places then I'll call it a day, kiss my daughter goodnight, ask her how she felt today, and send for a few more of these things because I'd like my whole family to be protected as well as we're able against the constant onslaught of a world filled with electronic gadgets. I do love them all, but the dangers are unmistakable, and our health and peak performance are worth more than a few measle hundred dollars.

My two cents worth,
Roger
Posted by Roger Briand  on  Wed Mar 01, 2006  at  09:54 PM
This initial discussion came about from talking about the cell phone chips, and one counter argument was referenced of the pendant. Actually the materials from which the chips are made are different (resin) than the pendant (some type of metal). I don't remember hearing that Tiger ordered any of the chips for his use though.

The seller specifies in an FAQ somewhere the reason why it is good to use both the pendant and the chips. The pendant is good for EMF from all types of items in the environment, where the chips are to be placed specifically on those areas where EMF and/or heating exists.



They also have a device which can be used for the home - plug it in to an outlet and it will protect your home up to 60' radius. And the amazing thing is that it uses no electricity...so why do I have to plug it in then?

Regarding the chips, the seller also states that you can put these chips on your car to enhance gas mileage - surely this is a very simple scientific test that could be done to prove the increase, so why can't I find the test results published somewhere?

Finally, the seller states that one pendant can't be shared by 2 people because the pendant tunes itself to an individual person's biofield. Wow - pretty amazing. Sounds like the seller would rather fine tune their wallet through sales of multiple pendants.
Posted by Steve  on  Mon Mar 13, 2006  at  06:46 AM
Joseph is full of fallacies. He sells a product that claims physical properties, but can't put physics behind it. Being a business major does not preclude common sense or an understanding of science, although many people who are business majors tend to fall into pyramid schemes faster than a scientist will. I have looked at the science on the website; it is done by cooky non peer reviewed people in Germany. Listen, my dad fell for this crock and bought a bunch of these little dimes and there is a sticker on my phone now, but I do not think it does a damn thing; biofields are not even proven. Just becuase people endorse something does not mean a damn thing; this is the fallacy of the majority. At one point, people endorsed slavery. At another, people crushed other people under tons of stones calling them witches. Another time, people endorsed monarchy. Endorsement might sell products, but it is out of trust, not out of knowledge. This is worse because it has been shown, scientifically, and with enough data to now support lawsuits, that cell phones might cauase cancerous tumors. Putting this sticker on might help people feel better, without actually doing anything. Allllll of the 'good reviews' Joseph brags about could be placebo effect. People think the sticker will do something, and it actually doesn't, when they need to find something that will be effective.
Posted by Amelia  on  Mon Sep 11, 2006  at  10:10 AM
Look, I am a technician with over 10 years experience mantaining/troubleshooting/teaching and studying electronics theory and technologies. And there are some impressive things out there I cant lie, but this isnt one. What can you trust?
I found very little to refute the claims of biopro's technology, but I found not a single one to support it (I looked for over an hour).
A couple of my family members bought this product for the rediculous price of $140 and when I learned this I immediately got mad.
I read their sight... it was silly. They do not know anything about electronics or radiation. Nice rubber sticker, though.
One last thing, it claims not to effect the phones transmit/receive properties in any way... hahaha! They don't seem to know what radiation is or what they are claiming.
Don't waste your money on a sticker that just lets everyone know you are gullible.
Thanks BIOPRO for making my loved ones waste their money to look stupid!
Posted by Jason  on  Sun Jan 21, 2007  at  01:19 PM
Hi Geroges Lakhovsky found much better uses for natural local and solar and manmade emfs, In 1924 He used a length of copper wire to encircle a geranium plant he had inoculated with a chemical to cause cancer, he did this with fifteen other geranium plants, the coppe circle had a diametre of 30 cms it was enamelled with both ends prevented from touching and the wire attcahed to an ebonite stake pushed into the soil of the plant pot, the other fifteen plants died quickly of cancer while this plant fully recovered and lived a life span beyond its species usual span. This is documented with pictures online or can be read wih many other ways to help yourselves in his book "The Secret Of Iife" great read, hope this helps :O)
Posted by Ben  on  Sat Sep 08, 2007  at  08:25 AM
EMF is nothing to take lightly.

Our cells communicate with or tissue, and our tissue communicates with our organs, and our organs make up an organism. For those that are confused... That would be us. And you. A human being. All of this communication uses natural electric communications and frequencies. We need our cells to communicate PROPERLY in order to live NORMALLY and HEALTHY. The reason why EMF has become such a scare in society is because these Ellectro Magnetic Fields DISTURB the way OUR CELLS COMMUNICATE. This results in corrupted cell growth, corrupted tissue and organ communications. This results in DISEASE. This results in CANCER. Don't be surprised when there's a National Health Crisis in the year 2050. And don't tell me that I didn't WARN you! So go eat some fruit and drink the beloved tea.
Posted by Levlan  on  Sun Feb 03, 2008  at  10:16 PM
I don't think people disagree with the concept of EMF potentially causing problems, as much as the proposed solution of these stickers in mitigating those effects!!!
Posted by steve  on  Mon Feb 04, 2008  at  06:33 AM
I've done much research about items and devices for clearing up harmful EMF, and I've found much enlightenment. I've bought a little something called the, "ecrystal," and I got the results I wanted. I've owned the thing for about 7 months now, but unfortunately I have lost it. Been looking all over for 2 days, and I can't find the little 70 dollar item.

I suggest any of you to try one of these products. If you want cheap, then do research on Crystal Catalyst. The 12 Point Resonator is nice.
Posted by Levlan  on  Mon Feb 04, 2008  at  05:32 PM
Well if it works it should be easy to find, when you start to feel better you should be close to it.HAHa
Posted by Alfred  on  Mon Feb 04, 2008  at  05:35 PM
You only notice the difference once near it for about an hour or so. It would take a very long time to find it with that method. It's a new science. Not magic.
Posted by Levlan  on  Mon Feb 04, 2008  at  06:06 PM
GEORGE CARLO ABANDONS BIOPRO!

Total melt down and exodus from biopro begins
Posted by BIOPRO IS A SCAM  on  Mon May 19, 2008  at  04:53 PM
Use EarthCalm which is designed for business owners who desire to provide EMF protection for their workers. These units are sold in a set of two plug-in devices to provide powerful Scalar Resonance Technology. Business owners will notice decreased absenteeism and a higher level of productivity among their workers. Begin with the first 7 circuit EarthCalm Office Protector for a one to two week adjustment period before plugging in the second 7 circuit EarthCalm Office Protector totaling full 14 circuit protection for all your employees. If you are a health professional the Office Protector will put your clients at ease. Therapists might also find their clients more open to insight and change.
Posted by Mind Body Shop  on  Thu Jun 12, 2008  at  04:57 PM
WOW! Another over priced piece of jewelry... I mean CRAP! Once one scammer start the ball rolling as biopro has it is amazing how many scammers will follow.

All you have to look at is their lame ass disclaimer just like biopro's and all the other MLM Scams out there:

"This information is for educational purposes only and is not to be construed as a recommendation for treating disease. Always consult a health practitioner for treatment of disease. No statement in this website has been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. EarthCalm claims only to release the nervous system from the stress of AC generated EMFs."

What more can you say when their own statement says it all. This company like all other companies are just taking advantage of a "perceived" idea - a perception they have all created via MLM Marketing and is is all just a load of crap! Just like the Man Made Global Warming scare which we all know now is just another method to rape us as a new type of tax; AKA: Carbon Credits. All of this is created through total propaganda. We know it sound like a scam... well, is it?
Posted by BIOPRO IS A SCAM  on  Thu Jun 12, 2008  at  08:28 PM
Cranky Media Guy/Alfie/Joseph, your a bit silly arn't you?


So let me get this straight, you poke fun at people because people believe in the qlink and you poke fun at the makers for selling a product as such but you don't even know about the FDA cover ups or government propaganda or control, but you want to use these in your arguements are you complete morons ?

Fisrtly, let me get this straight, what the makers claim is that it harmonizes emf's by harmonizing our own energy fields so we don't get affected as much as we would if we were not in balance. Let me guess, you wouldn't even believe in Auras unless your precious mainstream science could not prove it. Well people have been working with body energy for thousands of years before your precious, government controlled scientists proved we all have our own energy fields.

There are some complete idiots out there, that are either working for the gvt, or just plain stupid to think they know everything there is to know and thus closing off all other possibilities, well guys, have a nice, sheltered life.
Posted by Fabs  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  02:39 PM
Thanks - we will...😊

Did you see one of the pitchers at the world series was using one of the Q-Link knockoffs??? Had one around his neck.
Posted by Scott  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  02:42 PM
BIOPRO IS A SCAM - Your a fool and an idiot!

"Man Made Global Warming scare which we all know now is just another method to rape us as a new type of tax; AKA: Carbon Credits. All of this is created through total propaganda".

For years govt's were trying to cover up global warming, but now that it's undeniable they have no choice but to come out, sure they might be making MORE money off it, but it does not mean its man made propaganda. When animals that have been around for thousands of years before us start declining 400% or more on the last 100 yrs or so, climate specific animals I mean, well it's not hard to realise whats happening.

Wake up and smell the car fumes, IDIOT!
Posted by BIOPRO IS A SCAM - IS AN IDIOT  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  02:54 PM
"Thanks - we will...

Did you see one of the pitchers at the world series was using one of the Q-Link knockoffs??? Had one around his neck".

All I can say is, don't knock it till you try it. There have been a lot of "scientific" and real world tests for clarus products all with positive results, so sure you can poke your fun, but your just showing your imaturity level by babbling about something you know nothing of.

Go, believe everything the corrupt US government/FDA tells you, be another sheep that works to make the rich that way, like I said, Morons!
Posted by Fabs  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  03:03 PM
Fabs said:

"All I can say is, don't knock it till you try it."

You know what I heard? I heard that rubbing squirrel dung on your head will keep you from getting sick. Given the "logic" in the part of your comment I just quoted, you HAVE to try it. After all, you CAN'T knock it if you haven' tried it, right?

Please give us a link to a photo of you with a poop patty on your head OR I will be forced to conclude that you are a hypocrite.

"There have been a lot of 'scientific' and real world tests for clarus products all with positive results, so sure you can poke your fun, but your just showing your imaturity level by babbling about something you know nothing of."

Why did you put "scientific" in quotes? Can you please give us links to those "scientific" and "real world" tests so we can determine their validity or lack thereof?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  04:46 PM
Fabs said:

"Fisrtly, let me get this straight, what the makers claim is that it harmonizes emf's by harmonizing our own energy fields so we don't get affected as much as we would if we were not in balance."

What does that gibberish mean? Assuming we can figure it out, how do we test it? I mean, you're not just taking their word for it because you WANT to believe in it, are you? You DO want them to actually work, right?

"Let me guess, you wouldn't even believe in Auras unless your precious mainstream science could not prove it."

Uh, what? I wouldn't believe in "auras" unless science couldn't prove their existence? I suspect you meant that I wouldn't believe in "auras" unless science COULD prove their existence. That would be correct. I do NOT believe in the existence of human auras.

"Well people have been working with body energy for thousands of years before your precious, government controlled scientists proved we all have our own energy fields."

Every time I type a letter on my keyboard, I'm using "body energy," so yes, it obvious exists. What is your point?

I'm confused. First, you attack science, then you claim that my "precious, government controlled scientists" have proven that we all have an "energy field."

What scientists are you talking about and in what way are they "government controlled?" Also, why would the government (WHICH government?) be interested in suppressing knowledge of such a thing?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  04:58 PM
This is for you CRANKY MEDIA IDIOT....

"Please give us a link to a photo of you with a poop patty on your head OR I will be forced to conclude that you are a hypocrite".

Your just showing your plain ignorance and stupidity, poor fool. I said don't knock it ie don't knock something you know nothing of and besides I know squrrel dung is good smeared on my head, I just can't get any of the good stuff here in OZ.

http://www.holosuniversity.net/pdf/Eichler_HUGS_Dissertation.pdf

Check that out, theres pleanty more case studies out there, and that is for the clarus clearwave, not the biopro products, but I'm guessing you'll have just as much problem with the clearwave too.

I put scientific in quotes, because as god as mainstream science is good, it is bad too. There have been known cures for cancer, aids and many many types of serious illnesses for decades that never make it public, I wonder if thats because the gvt and pharmacutical companies are in bed together, duh. How do we have memories or think or walk or breathe, at the core of it all, it's because of energy, little electrical impulses, so where does that come from ?


Your next post I can't even bothered be responding to, but I'll say this much, Aura's can definately be proven using GDV and kirlian photographic cameras, among other methods. It is well known that the energy field around our living bodies, as well as animals bodies dissapate and vanish once we die.

Do a little research before you make yourself sound even more discredited and totally stupid you arrogant Cranky Media Idiot. Why are you so cranky anyway, maybe it's because your so tied up in the governments media BS, or maybe you just have a small penis, oh well either way it's your loss.
Posted by Fabs  on  Wed Oct 29, 2008  at  08:25 PM
Fabs said:

"There have been known cures for cancer, aids and many many types of serious illnesses for decades that never make it public, I wonder if thats because the gvt and pharmacutical companies are in bed together, duh."

And the actual EVIDENCE for this is what, exactly?

"How do we have memories or think or walk or breathe, at the core of it all, it's because of energy, little electrical impulses, so where does that come from ?"

Well, to greatly simplify the answer, our cells convert the electrical impulses into motion or thought. This has what to do with BIOPRO?

"Your next post I can't even bothered be responding to, but I'll say this much, Aura's can definately be proven using GDV and kirlian photographic cameras, among other methods."

"Kirlian" cameras take pictures of coronal discharge, not auras. The Kirlian nonsense has been thoroughly disproven many times. As a believer in the existence of human auras, however, you won't be interested in reading about those FACTS, I'm sure.

"It is well known that the energy field around our living bodies, as well as animals bodies dissapate and vanish once we die."

Yes, it's "well known" by people who believe in psuedo-scientific nonsense.

"Why are you so cranky anyway, maybe it's because your so tied up in the governments media BS, or maybe you just have a small penis, oh well either way it's your loss."

Ah, Ye Olde Ad Hominem Attack, the last refuge of those who have no actual FACTS to back up their beliefs.

Aren't you afraid that letting out all that "negative energy" will turn your aura black?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  01:03 AM
"And the actual EVIDENCE for this is what, exactly"?

You couldn't believe it anyway, you media idiot, all you believe is what the pathetic government and media tells you, so I don't care about your useless way of thinking.

My question was where do the electrical pulses originate from, media idiot, not what happens afterwords, read what I wrote properly, and it has something do do with our energy fields, not biopro, we are beyond that point of the conversation now, try to keep up.

If you don't believe that we have spirits, souls or auras, it really is your loss, all you see and hear and feel is what this materialistic world has to offer, and because of that, I truly feel sorry for you.

Don't worry your just not at a point in your spiritual evolution to understand or accept what I am saying or what more is out there that could benefit you greatly.

You probably have truckloads of karma to pay off first, so don't worry, one day (or life), you will get there.

I'm not afraid of anything Media Idiot, I'll let out what I want and it wasn't negative to me, maybe you, but who really cares, each to his own.

Your either working for the government, completely brainwashed by everything you see on the media, or very deeply christian, maybe all of them. Like I said, it is your choice to close of the doors to a higher evolution, and I respect you for your choice, good luck!
Posted by Fabs  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  03:46 AM
Wish I knew programming so I could write an application for my computer to harmonize it with me then I would not have to worry about emf when I am using it.
Posted by Alfie  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  06:32 AM
Programming has nothing to do with it.

You can't harmonize emf's unless you use something like lead, then still it's not harmonizing, it's shielding.

Basically put, every living thing has an energy field, if this field becomes weakened or imbalanced, then things like disease, illness and emf's can be detrimental to our bodies.

The idea of resonance technology is to harmonize or balance our energy fields so as such things do not impact us. I guess you could say its like a force field. This force field or aura can be programmed (by our concious mind) to vibrate at higher frequencies (stronger force field) or lower frequencies (weakened force field). It very much has to do with our intentions, thoughts and actions as to the specific frequency we create for ourselves.

Love and light to all, except that Media Idiot guy, just joking, even you 😊
Posted by Fabs  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  06:50 AM
"force field"


....May the force be with you!


Great - now we are into the world of fantasy...I guess you voted for Barack Hussein Obama II also...
Posted by scott  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  06:53 AM
Well I beleve it will work as well, so I guess I won't invest in either.
Posted by Alfie  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  07:41 AM
LOL, its fantasy until you can comprehend it properly.

Comprehend this though, I would never vote for Obama, even if I could from OZ.

Obama's foreign policy advisor is Zbigniew Brzezinski (and is a member of the illuninati). Brzezinski's foreign 'policy' during the Carter administration, as he has since admitted without regret, was to entice the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan in December, 1979. The idea, he said, was to weaken their rival superpower and the result was a ten-year occupation that cost the lives of an estimated 1.3 million Afghans and spawned the Mujahedin, Taliban and Osama bin Laden.

... Whether America votes for Barack Obama (a false savour due to the media which is totally controlled) or Macain the outcome will be the same because they won't dictate policy - the Shadow People will.

"God" help us all!
Posted by Fabss  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  07:46 AM
check this out people, read both pages form top to bottom. If you disagree that's fine, but do the research in regard to what you don't agree with and see if you find anything that backs up your denial!

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message487849/pg1

OBAMA AND Z. BRZEZINSKI will stuff america up even more so than Bush did. Don't agree? Just wait and see. Obama is here to pick up where Bush has left this nation, in the dumps, now we are headed for the sewers.
Posted by Obama Hater  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  08:00 AM
Fabs said:

"You couldn't believe it anyway, you media idiot, all you believe is what the pathetic government and media tells you, so I don't care about your useless way of thinking."

In other words, you have NO evidence to support your contentions, so you resort to personal attack.

Obama Hater, the topic here is BIOPRO. Talking about Obama is off-topic. Please contribute something about BIOPRO or leave. Thanks.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  01:50 PM
"In other words, you have NO evidence to support your contentions, so you resort to personal attack".

Actually what I mean is, even if I showed you the proof, you would not believe or could not believe it due to your being brainwashed by the pathetic goverment and media. It's not that hard to understand is it? When someone wholehartedly agrees and believes the government and media propaganda as you do, it does not matter if the real truth comes along, because they already have thier "truth". I too was like you once, completely believing in the countries authoritarian figures, but you have to ask yourself, what agenda do or might they have to be this way. Why would the government go in and start wars in completely different countries, why would the government, who is supposedly in power because of the people, not get the peoples approval first, hmm maybe, just maybe Media Guy, they have agenda's that are far beyond the well being of people. Most of the people in power have let it get to thier head, and get worse and worse and more money and status hungry.

Wake up and smell the truth Media Guy, your just being childish.

You don't want to even face the truth about Obama, it's clear that you, for some reason are avoiding any real truth that comes along.

Biopro is the least of our concerns, if it even gives people a little bit of positive thought, it's well worth it in my opinion, placebo or not. By the way, placebo's have been found to be even more powerful (depending on the individual) than so called medications. Figure that one out Media Guy, yes thats right, the body can heal itself through the mind, most of the medications out there, do more long term damage than the short term "fix" is good. What people need to understand is why they have disease and sickness in the first place, fix and isolate the cause and most of the time the body will repair itself readily and easily. That goes for any sickness, disease or imbalance.
Posted by Fabs  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  08:03 PM
Very well written. I have seen professional athletes (golf especially) wearing magnetic or other bracelets for some effect on their play also, which I believe are placebos but if it gets them in the right frame of mind then good for them.

Unlike prescription drug medicines, the Biopro device has no side effects I know of (other than a tendency to develop dependency on an inanimate object or to separate the owner from some of his money)..
Posted by Scott  on  Thu Oct 30, 2008  at  08:44 PM
Well, Fabs, you've really got me. I didn't think anyone knew about the money the U.S. government pays me to deny the existence of human auras. How did you find out?

"You don't want to even face the truth about Obama, it's clear that you, for some reason are avoiding any real truth that comes along."

It's as if you can see right through me. Yes, I also get paid to not face the "facts" (whatever they may be) about Barack Obama.

You keep on keeping on, Fabs. Don't worry for a moment about the people who think you're a conspiracy theory nut job. They all just have dark auras. And negative force fields, too. But what would you expect from extra-terrestrials, huh? So typical.

Hey, I've got a question for you. How expensive is it to line all the walls of your house with aluminum foil? I have a feeling you'd know about that.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Fri Oct 31, 2008  at  12:57 AM
Media Guy, you really are just an idiot.

Conspiracy theorist you might say, I say call me what you will, but do the research and you'll find it's not a conspiracy, like it said on the x-files, THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE for those that want to seek it anyway. Me keep on going, how about you keep on going, suckling the teet of George Bush, or Barack or whoever wins, the US government, like most others are corrupt in one way or another, if you choose to turn a blind eye, that's your problem.

Like I said, one day you may come to realise just how much of an arrogant idiot you really are, and perhaps you'll change your perceptions and ideas and see past the BS and propaganda. Honestly, if the gvt was paying you to discredit aura's, biopros and things that can help protect you from the harmful effects of EMF's, I would not be in the slightest surprised. Although you arn't doing a very good job so I hope for the tax payers sake, you arn't getting paid and your doing this of your own pathetic accord.

Aluminium foil wouldn't work with EMF's like I said before, I'm just sensible when it comes to things that give off a high level of them. I would suggest for anyone that reads this to get yourself an emf gauss meter and do your own experiments in your house about what gives of Emf at an unacceptable level. If anyone has an electric alarm clock next to thier head when they sleep, scrap it or move it into another room, just go for a battery operated one.

Why would I care about people that think I'm nuts? I know what is truth for me may not be true for someone else, and I'm totally happy with that, we wouldn't be individual otherwise thats what makes this world so great, the contrasting ideas and idiots such as yourself Mr "Media Guy".
Posted by Fabs  on  Fri Oct 31, 2008  at  01:31 AM
Fabs said:

"I know what is truth for me may not be true for someone else..."

While that statement *might* have some sense to it IF we're talking about personal situations, it certainly is NOT relevant to the laws of physics.

You can believe in stuff like human auras, etc. all you want, but your belief, no matter how sincere, will NOT will them into existence.

Of course, I'm just a government dupe so what do I know?

You, on the other hand, are a guy who knows the T*R*U*T*H about all these things but who refuses to provide any evidence of such to we poor mortals. How could we NOT take you at your word?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Sat Nov 01, 2008  at  01:15 AM
Cranky Media Idiot Said:

"While that statement *might* have some sense to it IF we're talking about personal situations, it certainly is NOT relevant to the laws of physics.

You can believe in stuff like human auras, etc. all you want, but your belief, no matter how sincere, will NOT will them into existence.

Of course, I'm just a government dupe so what do I know?

You, on the other hand, are a guy who knows the T*R*U*T*H about all these things but who refuses to provide any evidence of such to we poor mortals. How could we NOT take you at your word"?

The "laws of physics" huh? Who made such laws, and are these men perfect, are they all knowing?Like I said previously Mr Media Guy, Aura's are proven, and people have been working with the human energy field for thousands of years, some people can even see them with thier own eyes, some can feel and sense it. The instant like or dislike of a person, upon first seeing them or hearing them can be attributed to this, although that is a very basic level of the sensing I'm talking about.

Ok then mr I don't believe, I challenge you to prove human energy fields or Auras are not real, and I'm just imagining them along with all the others.

Don't reply unless you have something to back up your disbelief. While I could spend time for you, looking up various studies, I believe in it enough not to care whether you believe in them or not, so it's up to you to prove me wrong, if you can.

Peace.
Posted by Fabs  on  Thu Nov 06, 2008  at  08:33 PM
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