Fan Death and Tongue Cutting

Fan Death is
"the belief that if someone is sleeping in a sealed room (windows and doors are closed) with an electric fan on, they could die." The theory is that either hypothermia will get you, or the fan breeze will somehow form a vacuum around your mouth and suffocate you. Apparently many people in Korea believe this is true. Or at least, this is what Robin, the creator of
fandeath.net, has concluded after living in Korea for five years. He writes:
When I first heard about fan death, I discussed it with my Korean friends and students. I was the foreign skeptic and they were the loyal natives. I was shocked at how powerful their belief was and at the lack of critical thinking about the issue. All you have to do is bring up the issue of fan death with a Korean and it would be difficult to get them to accept the fact that fan death might not be true. Especially when talking to a foreigner, they are more likely to defend their cultural belief than question it. So, unable to have a semi-neutral discussion, I turned to the internet. After checking the internet for more information about fan death, I became greatly frustrated. I could not find any detailed information about fan death. So, I decided to make this site to encourage others to tell their stories and share their knowledge about the issue.
Robin's site includes info about some other unusual Korean beliefs, such as tongue- cutting, which is the theory that if you cut the frenulum (the tissue linking the tongue to the floor of the mouth)
"your tongue will be more flexible and be able to pronounce those difficult English sounds." Robin says that for this reason tongue surgery is quite popular in Korea.
Posted By: Alex | Date:
Wed Mar 09, 2005 |
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Total Comments: 55
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What if you were in a closed room with a fan AND you were covered in paint??
Posted by Silentz in general on Thu Mar 10, 2005 at 03:07 PM
... and dodging the armadillos and roaches...
Posted by Rod in the land of smarties. on Thu Mar 10, 2005 at 03:19 PM
"Don't you suffocate if you're covered in paint?"
This did happen in that "Goldfinger" movie, but not in real life. Not being amphibians, we breathe with our lungs, not through our skin.
Having some kinds of paint all over you could have bad effects on your health (lead poinsoning, for example), but asphyxiation would not be one of your problems.
Posted by Big Gary C in Dallas, Texas on Thu Mar 10, 2005 at 03:33 PM
The whole Goldfinger 'covered in paint' thing confused me as a kid; if it was the case that you could kill somebody by denying their skin of air, shouldn't wet-suited frogment also die? From what I remember of the book, Oddjob breaks the girl's neck and *then* covers her in paint, although I could be very much mistaken.
Posted by Ashley Pomeroy on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 02:41 AM
I'd go with Ashley. Read her website, she REALLY likes Bond. It's been like 15 years since I've seen it, so I don't remember for sure...
Posted by Rod in the land of smarties. on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 06:19 AM
Gary,
I only mentioned the paint thing because it was on another "Mythbuster" episode that they busted that myth.
Posted by Silentz in general on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 08:32 AM
Yeah, Mom always told me that if I turned the fan on and kept the window open at night in summer I'd catch a cold. It's one of those old wive's tales, like how they say bubblegum stays in your gut for 20 years.
Posted by Laser Potato, who fears no fan on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 10:43 AM
I guess tongue thing came from India. I read that Indian yogis do the same thing. Why? To allow tongue to roll inside and press backside of the mouth. Though, on the contrary this position helps to keep inner silence.
Posted by Loxx on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 12:32 PM
About body paint - look at divers they put rubber suits and spend hours under water.
Posted by Loxx on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 12:36 PM
Touching the subject of tongue cutting. My mother took my new born sister to see her great-grandmother who was probably born in the 1870's in a remote part of Derbyshire, Northern England.
The old lady insisted that my sister was "tongue tied" because of the taughtness of her frenulum and wanted to cut it with scissors. My mother resisted this strenuously and it was not done. This must have been about 1957.
I have not noticed that my sister ever had any subsequent problems with her speech. Far from it!
Posted by Ross Davies in London on Fri Mar 11, 2005 at 03:28 PM
About how fans cool you, there's another effect beyond the evaporation of perspiration.
Since your body generates heat, the air near you gets hotter than the air in the rest of the room (regardless of the ambient temperature). Unless you're sleeping outdoors, in the absence of a fan this heat-build-up effect slows down cooling. A fan moves new (ambient temp) air next to you, so your body can more efficiently give up its heat.
Posted by Carl Fink on Sat Mar 12, 2005 at 09:42 AM
Alex, I think Rod explained what I meant about the cooling/non-cooling temp of a fan.
Posted by Maegan in Tampa, FL - USA on Sun Mar 13, 2005 at 05:11 AM
"I only mentioned the paint thing because it was on another "Mythbuster" episode that they busted that myth" ...
I figured you were kidding, but it seems sad that anyone could actually believe such a thing, so that it would have to be busted.
Posted by Big Gary C in Fairbanks, Alaska on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 01:12 AM
Posted by Unfairly Balanced in Earth on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 07:01 AM
Here's the same article, with all of the facts scrubbed out...
http://www.arirangtv.com/korean/news/news_body.asp?news_no=57275&title=Life
And here's "an objective view about Korean culture".
http://www.koreainfonet.com/
"Dog meat dispute resurfaces
Submitted by Admin on Sun, 2005-03-13 23:34.
A government decision to impose strict regulations on processing and selling dog meat has reignited an old controversy over the traditional Koreans' practice of eating dog meat.
The Cabinet last Wednesday decided to draft measures that prohibit any brutal slaughtering of dogs and set hygiene guidelines on the processing and sale of dog meat."
Posted by Rod in the land of smarties. on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 07:22 AM
Oh, and on the same website...
"Volunteers hold online campaign for correct info about Korea
Submitted by Admin on Wed, 2005-03-09 00:08.
About 15,000 members of the Voluntary Agency Network of Korea (VANK), backed by 3,000 foreign members, have waged an online campaign to help foreigners have a better understanding of Korea."
I guess 18,000 people was not enough...
Posted by Rod in the land of smarties. on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 07:44 AM
And how does putting Robert Service quotes qualify as Korean culture????
"Daily Quote
"It isn't the mountain ahead that wears you out – it's the grain of sand in your shoe."
Robert Service"
Posted by Rod in the land of smarties. on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 07:48 AM
I mentioned the dog meat question recently to my English as a Second Language class for adults, which right now is made up almost entirely of Koreans, and they acted very surprised and emphatically and unanimously decalred that no one in Korea eats dogs.
Then the oldest member of the class spoke up though, and said that back during the war, when food was very scarce, some people did eat dogs.
I guess in a famine, most of us would eat dogs if necessary, but in my students' opinion, dog meat is not a part of traditional Korean cuisine.
Posted by Big Gary C in Fairbanks, Alaska on Mon Mar 14, 2005 at 09:27 AM
Well, where do i start? I'm american, and married to a Korean. I knew about fan death and always knew it was kind of BS, if you will, so i never gave it much attention. Until one day when me and my wife went to visit her sister, who lives in an one-room apartment. It was summer, and summer in korea is hot, no i mean HOT. So we had to the fan running all day but as we laid down to go to sleep my sister-in-law turned it off. I politely asked that we keep it on as it was so hot, forgetting all about the murderous intentions that implied. In complete conviction and half horror she told me that was simply impossible. Then i remembered, so i tactifully told them, my wife was on her side, that they were full of shit. After three hours of arguing and pulling emails off the net from British, American, and Austraillian doctors of the absurdity of the "Fan Death" they were not at all convinced b/c they had statements from KOREAN doctors that stated otherwise. So in short, yes it's fascinating but you will never EVER convince them....think about it black cats are bad luck, right?
Posted by Russell in Yongsan, Korea on Mon Mar 21, 2005 at 07:34 PM
and oh yeah, buy the way...the reality show thing..i'm SERIOUSLY working on that...this is no shit...i'm talking to KBS now about getting on TV in a room with a fan...of course it's difficult convincing the TV Station that i'm not trying to commit suicide on national television...they are actually co-ordinating to see if they can have doctors on stand-by before they can OK this project, or else they won't do it.
Posted by Russell in Yongsan, Korea on Mon Mar 21, 2005 at 07:37 PM
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