Phony ‘Forsake Our Troops’ Site

I support our troops but not exactly our president..

I respect our president and our troops..

I wear a support our troops bracelet and well, it stands for just that, support our troops, and most of them, not all, belive they should be over there, and they are doing good.

well my father is a veitnam vet, my grandfather ww1 korea and lastly veitnam, and all my family are military members, i just got out of the USMC in August 2004. i am very disturbed by the thoughts and actions of theis michael crook. if i saw my friends go overseas, and many of them are still there today. i am pleased that for every jerk-off like michael, that there are 100 people patting me on my back saying im glad you served and i honor you and your brothers in arms.

i am proud to serve and would serve again if i had to. i honestly feel that it is up to GOD to forgive him, but id happily arrange the meeting.

semper fi

edit WWII not WWI

What I find somewhat disturbing is that he has taken the time to look up information on some of the folks that posted messages on Shoot Back. Looking up their profiles and posting it to "prove" he has some information he can "hol over their heads". Makes one think twice about how much we should allow to be released when we are on the internet.

I raked in 10000.00 just in six month deployment. Oh and extra money for being away from my family. God I just love it. As I'm out there busting my ass for your freedom. LOL.

GO TO HELL. I earned every bit of that money. 😊:-):-):-}:-}

No amount of money is ever worth having to leave your family. My husband was offered an extra $200 a month to stay rather than to take R&R. He declined it flat out. I definately appreciate the extra money, and my husband has earned every penny of it. I still think it's not enough, but it does help.

WHAT LOONY BIN DID THIS GUY ESCAPE FROM!?!?! Did anyone click on the link at the bottom of his "My Days In The Army" site???? It is a TOTALLY different story!!!! WHAT A PSYCHO!!!

This guy's story about Ft Benning is complete BS as a couple of you have suspected. His story indicates that he pretty much began his training the morning after arriving. BS. He would have gone through at least a couple of days of various administrative processing. MEPS doesn't do all of that, only enough to get you sworn in.

To Rick,

The information that this sicko is able to gain is because he maintains an aol account and he is getting information from aol profiles. There are also other ISP who may offer their clinets the opportunity to post a profile, that being the case anubody using that ISP is capable of getting that profile and knowing about you whatever you let be known. You can block the access to your aol profile, others I do not know about. This sicko has no magical powers that allow him to get information any different than any of us on this wonderful magical electronic playground.

He forgot that there is no workman's compensation for OTJ injuries, that wages are less than minimum wage when you're on duty 24/7, that deductions are taken from your pay for meals and uniforms...

and... I've been to MEPS- quite recently-- he obviously doesn't know that you spend time there for processing- further processing takes place at every training or duty station (called Reception)

what a jerk.

I could make tons more $$ in civilian life doing the same job

If militaqry is so over comcpensated, how come so many live below the poverty line? How come so much on base housing is condemned? Not fit for people to live in?

According to forsakethetroops. info

On Monday evening, the webmaster of Forsake The Troops was brutally assaulted by two men, thought to be members of the military, in response to their opinions about this website. Mr. Crook had been the target of numerous death threats and trespassers at his residence. All of these threats were saved and have been turned over to the authorities.
UPDATE:

At 6:19pm Eastern time, Michael Crook died of his injuries, after being rushed by ambulance to the leading hospital in the area for head trauma. The two men who allegedly assaulted him are currently in the custody of police. Mr. Crook died with his wife and infant daughter present.

It is therefore the decision of his family, and associates that Forsake The Troops goes offline, to prevent further incidents of violence and threats against his family. Therefore, this domain will permanantly go offline at around 5pm Eastern time, on Tuesday, May 17th, 2005.

Comments, and well-wishes may be addressed to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). Media inquiries (no interviews with family at this time), or sincere inquiries from well-meaning people may be directed to (315) 558-4372.

Leave a voice mail message and your call will be returned by our media representative. The family requests privacy at this time.

air men x you are making the rounds with this whats up with that

is that true? or is that bull shit? come on, he knew what he was doing and he even asked for it by saying what he did all this time. who wouldn't be pissed off at what he did? He sat there and said the miltary was freeloaders and all that crap he said on his website. If he was that scared he wouldn't have said all of that. so my guess is until I'm proven wrong, is that he did get scared and ran and faked this so he can show up later after all of it has died down.

I don't know anything about the site, but I will check it out later to find out exactly what he did to piss off everyone so much.

Just because I don't support George W. Bush's poor decisions does not mean I don't support the troops. And instead of just pasting a little label on my truck, I'll assemble CARE packages instead. NOW ISN'T THAT BETTER!?

Goat King,

Ya can't check his site, it is no more. His family took it down. I have checked obits for Syracuse NY and the Syracuse newspaper and can find no mention of an attack or of his death, using any of his various names.

So, could be a way for him to have just disappeared off the face of the earth.

Mebbe I'll call the Syracuse NY PD and ask them.

It's fake. If there were an actual attack, it would have been all over the papers. There would have been some mention of it in the daily police reports. There is nothing. This guy is a fraud.

Here is most likely what happened. Someone tracked down his address, probally sent him some not nice emails. This guy probally started thinking about his actual safety after all that he has said and done. He has probally decided that for his own protection he'd better go crawl back into the shit filled sewers he climbed out of.

It's not that hard to actually trace an address and telephone number for an unlisted Michael Crook down. With all the information he gave in his site and weblog it really does lead back to a physical home address not that phoney one on the main page. He probally had the shit scared out of him and now is hiding like the pansy ass he is.

On a side note. People need to watch how much information they give out. You tell someone your age, what town you live in and grew up in. You tell them how many kids you have, you talk about work and where you work. The internet has all kinds of information and search tools. For $10 anyone can know your past driving record, your social security number, your past address's, your marriage date, who your married to.. it goes on and on. Becareful with who and how much of your information you give out.

For any of you still monitoring this website

Some 25 years ago or so there was a story going around the religious radio stations about a young man from a "small town near here" who was involved with D&D who went through various horrible stages until he finally committed suicide. I was stationed in upstate New York, Platsburgh AFB, at the time I first heard it and checked out the various small towns and counties around the city of Plattsburgh and could find no mention of the incident. Granted, since the young man was alleged to be a minor, his name would not have been available, but the fact of the incident would have been. Later, after attending my grandmother's funeral I heard the exact same story in Kentucky and Tennessee on the same day, in different radio markets, and two days later in Arizona. I suspected then and still suspect a false story making the rounds. I suspect that the story of this guy's death is something similar. From all I've seen and heard about this guy, primarily here, I believe he has a psychological fix against the military and has concocted this story to further his aims in that regard. If this story is real, it should be easy to prove. Crimes investigated by any police agency are public records. Not all the details obviously, the the fact of the crime. If this guy was killed, it is on the record, the death certificate is also a public record, and if people have been taken into custody it is also on the record. If it is true or a hoax, either way I hope it gets a lot of publicity.

Chill peeps, it's a hoax. Of course I was pretty pissed when I first saw it too. The guy isn't dead he is just posting that to get the heat off of him...

http://forums.military.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/409192893/m/526108975

God Bless America

I've searched for the story of his death as well, nothing turned up. I checked the newspaper and TV websites around Syracuse and nothing turned up. The guy doesn't quit, even in his own "death" he blames the military!

Rick

Has anybody tried emailing or calling the number left on the website?

Mike is revived!
Submitted by mike on Tue, 2005-05-17 20:32.
Well, I suppose the cat's out of the bag, so....I'm not dead.

To those that sent heartfelt messages, and felt that this was a true story, I truly apologize. This situation quickly got out of hand, when national media outlets called looking for clarification.

I honestly thought people would shrug it off, and go on their merry way. I even got a kick out of the numerous hate messages from people, including an e-mail message from this numbnuts:



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From: Hollingsworth, Benjamin L SFC USAOC&S (.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address))
Yea, I am sorry that I couldn't have been there to watch you die. Go Army.

SFC Hollingsworth, Benjamin
Recovery Department NCOIC
"Leading the Train"
410-278-2765 / 7606
DSN 410-297-2765 / 7606



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Real nice guy, he. In any event, this story got way out of hand. The Troops site has, indeed, been taken offline, because quite frankly, I'm tired of the time it takes to maintain it. It's not from a lack of hosts; there are plenty of companies willing to take my money, but enough is enough. Let the drunken rednecks from Weapon Depot think they won. They had nothing to do with it. Nor did anyone else, but myself. I alone chose to take the site down.

But, hey, if it gets your rocks off to make you think you're so important that you had anything to do with it, knock yourself out.........please. Then jump off a tall building with your children in tow.

And, people overreact. Take for example, one Mr. Mike James, webmaster of Newsblues, which is a media insider website. Having worked in the media industry, he felt it imperative to mention the story. Unfortunately, he got the story wrong. He also chose to fire me as one of his researchers, because of the fallout from this story, apparently. Of course, it's fallout he created himself by running the story-- I haven't worked in the TV industry for quite some time now. It's truly unfortunate that he apparently does business this way, but whatever. Life's too short to stress over mean people.

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So Mikey, if you are taking down your website... how will all your big fans like myself keep in touch? Snail mail?!?!

This guy seems to be attempting to copy "The Best Page in the Universe", located at http://www.maddox.xmission.com.
If you haven't been there, it is an outrageously funny and profane site that gets the majority of its' laughs at the expense of the liberal left, Vegans, PETA, and any and all things popular.
The difference is, Maddox has talent.

After doing some research, I have learned that this idiots website is hosted through "enom.com".

The phone # is, 425.274.4500
The general email is, .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

If anyone would like to complain, this is the correct contact info.

A little more about Mike Crook check this out
he likes to use the name silentmike.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=167750

What a dork! another profile:
http://www.rickjames.com/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=Silent+Mike

Strange,if this guy is dead he must have a twin. A Michael Crook (PUKE) was on Hannity and Colmes (FOX NEWS)Friday,27 May,2005.I would personally like to see the draft reinstated and PUKE'S like this would be the first to be called up.

Looks like Crook just up and moved...

http://www.forsakethetroops.net/

(http://www.forsakethetroops.info was old site URL)

Web site is back up and running...bottom of page states Last Update May 21, 2005

Did anyone see the FOX News broadcast with our boy Mikey? They lit him up!! The man looks like Marylin Manson after a severe hangover. I have the video, if anyone is interested in seeing it... post your email and I'll send it your way.
-Cheers

Check this video about him out:
Fox lit him up, only good thing they've ever done:

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=050521_FoxNews_HannityColmes_ForsakeTheM

Thanks SOMC, I wasn't sure how to link the vid...

i saw the video clip, and this guy is even more out of his mind than ever. clearly he doesnt like the government, but using us veterans and the actively serving military as a scapegoat to try to voice and assinine opinion. i really appreciate the new casters standing up for us and telling the world how stupid this character is. i truely hope that someone takes a pop shot at him and takes him out, let god decide his fate. i didnt mind putting my life on the line for this country, but at times it is people like this it makes it hard.

When I returned home from Iraq, I was warmly welcomed by the majority of the people I met. But as I neared the baggage claim, I had my beret ripped off of my head, and was spat upon by two AMERICANS that seemed to be around my age. I was called all sorts of names...vulgarities were flying from their mouths. I just recently saw the Hannity & Colmes with that "Forsakethetroops" site. I was outraged. It brought back the memory of that day in the airport. The feeling of picking up my beret with a footprint on it...wiping the spit off of my shirt and face...I just thought I would share my experience...as I read the stories on anti-war demonstrations.

I just got done seeing the video that was posted on here. As a US Marine I cannot explain the outrage I am feeling right now. What makes it worse is they way he makes our pay sound. My whole squadron is at work performing maintence on our jets 12 hours a day 6 days a week. THATS 72 HOURS A WEEK. And thats if you get off on time and dont work Sundays (which happens atleast twice a month). If this was a normal pay by the hour job we would be making so much more money. There is no way you can justify the base salary as being excessive. It just blows my mind that there is actually people out there that believe this stuff so strongly. Im so worked up and frustrated I dont even know how to put it in words

This is still an issue:

http://forsakethetroops.net/

The pay is excessive??? No it's not. It's a joke. I make less than 30,000 a year! I work 12 hours shifts, 5 days a week, and every other Sunday. I know how you feel Bob. But you know what? There's nothing else in this world more important to me than my jet.

When I was on active duty, and I've been on the retired list for almost 20 years now, the maximum hours allowed in the Air Force was 16/12. That is, sixteen on and twelve off. And days off were optional. However, this was PACAF and I don't remember if the rest of the AF had the same limits. Given the number of hours that can be worked, most GIs get less than minimum wage. I can remember junior NCOs on foodstamps. But the job I did was worth it. I loved those birds, most of them anyway. I hated the U-2R.

It's not about the money, anyone serving knows that. Granted, there are people doing less and making more but they will never experience the feeling of serving their country. The deep sense of pride... And even though there's plenty to complain about in the pay department I wouldn't trade what I've made in the military. Great opportunities, great friends, great experiences... Things most people wouldn't understand.
The guy hasn't a clue. He propably tried to enlist and was rejected. He'll get his.
It's a job, a life. and I love it!!! ohrah!

I dropped MC an email asking him to come visit us at this website. Assuming that he responds, make sure everyone you know has access to this website (especially you military types). Maybe we can open up a two-way communication with this nut.

If you have any personal information (IE address) for Mr. Crooks, please publish it in this forum.

The last guy on earth any of you want to disagree with,

Hitman

What do you guys think about Michael Jackson being found Not Guilty? Fair? Accurate?

Likely not accurate, but since I wasn't there and I didn't listen to the testimony, I must accept the verdict since I believe in the Rule of Law and the law has spoken. When was the last time a celeb was convicted in Calif, Fatty Arbuckle? Or, was he accuited but just ruined? I can't remember and don't know where to look it up right now.

BTW, if you do get this guy's address, maybe you could talk those jerks with their UFO hoax day to send this guy a couple of trucks of boxes. He could use them to store all the wrong "facts" he spews.

For anyone looking for info on the whack job known as Michael Crook, this is what I found. Most everyone knows that the forsakeourtroops.info site is gone and a forsakeourtroops.net is now up. I discovered the new site while searching for news about his reported death, I was disappointed to learn that was a hoax. But what I did find was a new site ran by Michael Crook, http://michaelcrooktalks.com. He has a couple of phone numbers posted there, one I believe is his hosting site with the 315 area code. The other is a voice mail phone number. I called that one and the voice sounded like the fruitcake I saw on Hannity and Colmes. With a little more research I learned it belongs to someone by the name of M M Kane at the following address, 301 W Franklin Ave
Columbus, NJ 08022
(609) 858-7154
Upon further checking I found a M M Kane with the same phone number but different area code, 856, located at 727 EVERETT AVE OAKLYN NJ. I don't think it's a coincidence. I just figured that on his interview he talked about using his God given right to freedom of speech then I would use mine to give out as much info as I could. I hope this helps "Hitman". God bless all our Brothers and Sisters in the Armed Forces.

Found this:

"There is a site out there, called forsakethetroops.net. Let me say this loud and clear: forsakethetroops.net does not belong to me (Michael Crook), or SMIS Hosting Services. Read on to find out who is responsible for this nonsense.

Before we get into that, however, yes, I did run forsakethetroops.INFO. That site was taken down in mid-May, and it has been sold. Yes, I did appear on Hannity and Colmes, representing forsakethetroops.INFO.

Towards the end of the site, a new website came up under the name of forsakethetroops.NET. The person running this site used the same template that I did, which is readily available in many hosting packages. From there, he used much my original content, which can be accomplished by cut and paste. This would explain why his site resembles the old Troops site.

This site is being presented as my work, and it has come to my attention that he signs e-mail as Michael Crook, but it is the work of someone who identifies themselves as "Brad Kramer". Complaints to myself, or my host, SMIS, will be deleted without being read.

He may be reached at either .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (the name of the "company" he supposedly owns) or .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).
He is the one responsible for this disgusting site, and the filth that's on it, not me.

It has stolen the basic look of my Forsake The Troops domain, which has been sold. Add to that the picture of gay military porn on the website, and it equates to a disgusting website.

The false WHOIS data that he's registered can be addressed with a WHOIS complaint to ICANN. He has chosen to register it under my name to make it look as if it's my domain, but the reality is, he should be taking credit for his....uhm..."work".

The previous host was NDCHost, but today a technician confirmed that they "asked (that site) to be removed" from their servers". That's right...forsakethetroops.net got kicked off of NDCHost.

According to a traceroute, the site is hosted, as I type this, by http://www.secure.net. You may e-mail complaints about the .net site to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

I was able to find out additional information. The current IP address is 204.200.195.162, which traces to a server called taylor821.securesites.net. It leads to secure.net (192.220.124.10, and 192.220.125.10 ar e the nameservers). Now that all traces to a company supposedly called MyNameservers, LLC. That appears to be a reseller for Verio. Nameservers allegedly has an e-mail address of .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

Now, Verio has declined to take any responsibility for this site. They have officially, by way of one of their phone representatives, thumbed their noses at ICANN and copyright regulations. Therefore, it may be reasonable to e-mail .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). Or, you can try calling them at (800)551-1630."

Continued:

"Finally, one could write the big boys. ARIN oversees all the IP allocations in the US. Since Verio is denying their duty, it may be reasonable to have action taken against Verio. Abuse complaints may be addressed to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). Or, you can call them at (703) 227-9840.

Some other interesting information came to light...but I will post that once I confirm the validity of it.

I'm very close to nailing this scumbag, and it will be beautiful when I do. I've a feeling he's closer than I initially thought he was. Peek-a-Boo, "Bradley Kramer"!

So, yes, I did start the Troops site as a .INFO, but that does not mean I should be blamed for his work, which is an obvious attempt to make it appear as if I'm still running the show-- I have no control over that site.

Hopefully, this will show people that I indeed do not run forsakethetroops.net, and I have no further involvement it, or the .info. Please consider that before you send hate mail or death threats, thinking that I run that site."

Let's beat him anyway! :cheese:

I just read every single post on here an saw the video clip of the M. Crook guy and that is exactly what he is, a crook. I am curtrently in the military and I speak for a lot of people when I say it is not about the money. I am at a mid ranking position and we don't get paid much. I have done numerous amounts of research on this and we just barely get by. But this anti-whatever is not by how much we get paid, it is simply an argument to get their point of view to be the right one. We do defend some of the freedoms giveto us Americans but still how can you justifiy doggin american troops when all we want to do is serve our country. We do not sit around a develope a conspiricay to swindle money. We think of how we can make a difference. It is like taking a good thing and making it more complicated. And it sucks to see that our own people can't get their heads down from the sky and for once believe in the truth that we are trying to make a better place. Can some people actually siot here and tell me that "Oh we support our troops just don't pay them as much." We as american soldeirs, regardless of what people say, enjoy risking our lives and doing what is necessary to protect our nation, regardless if it means protesting remarks; but there is only so much you can take of verbal abuse on a good thing. Try to think if we didn't have a military that cares, we would be at the hands of Al Qeada, or other terrorist. We love our country, it is so simple, yet everyone wants to turn a simple thing into politics just to get their voice heard and get their way. Just leave us alone to defend and protect our nation.

Hello everyone. I have watched the news coverage, seen the websites, and heard the rumors. None of it surprises me, and none of it affects me. I have been overseas to Iraq, I have been overseas to Afganistan, I have been overseas to just about every country that the US currently offers support to. Allow me to set the records straight. We don't make much money, we don't get nice cars or lavish perks, and we don't ask for them. We do what we do because no one else will. There is not one person in this world that wants to take a life. Mr. Crook, if you are reading this, I wish you luck sir, you are going to have a hell of a time in life. To the supporters who side with my comrades in arms and I, we thank you and we miss you. We fight, we win. Enough said.