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i for one am willing to cut the baytoday reporter a whole lotta slack simply because any rational person could see that the baytoday article is much more a 'human interest' story, than a scientific article. i have always assumed that troy was simply a fascinating "cracked pot". what he's doing is sort of like performance art. it's great that there are troy hurtubises in our world to amuse the rest of us with their harmless pranks. let's hope troy gets over his "general malaise" soon and back into the garage, er, laboratory.

See I wasn't imagining it...scroll down to the second story on the page:

http://www.exn.ca/dailyplanet/view.asp?date=9/15/2004

or go straight here:

http://www.exn.ca/video/?video=exn20040915-firepaste3.asx

I remember now exactly where I saw this...it was on The (Discovery) Science Channel's "Discoveries This Week"...

>> IF I had an invisible gremlin living under my bed that could violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics, that would be pretty revolutionary, right? Now, I'm not going to give you any proof he exists, but you don't have any proof he doesn't exist, so we should keep an open mind and file it under "maybe", right? <<

...THANK YOU DONKEY PUNCH!!! I was about the post (pretty much) the EXACT SAME response to Dryfoos' post, but you saved me the trouble and showed there are rational people left out there.

>>it's great that there are troy hurtubises in our world to amuse the rest of us with their harmless pranks. let's hope troy gets over his "general malaise" soon and back into the garage, er, laboratory.<<

...Thanks, Geebs, I think that's the best way to look at it. Next time our man Troy pipes up you bet I'm all ears.

Uh, regarding the LIBM. Let's toss a grenade *near* that door and see what happens to it, the glass in it and the dummy behind it. Wouldn't be pretty. In order for those to work the entire surface of a vehicle would have to be covered with them. DUH! Does he have an invisible version for windows? Don't think so. They don't have any magical shrapnel or projectile attracting properties to make them effective in the way they're implimented there and they're pretty run of the mill in regards to balistics protection. Bottom line, he didn't invent anything in that respect, it's been done before.

Basically this guy is a crackpot looking for attention. Notice the accent Discovery Channel commentator? British. Now I'm of British ancestry so I have nothing in general against the British but the British have a real problem with journalistic integrity. How come in that DC piece they don't question him in regards to the issues about the unprotected areas not covered by the bags? Does he think that the ememy is just going to shoot directly at these bags? His behavior during the "demonstration" is something else too. He acts as if he just saved the world. If this bozo thinks so then I suggest he sit behind that door protected with his bags and I'll toss a few grenades in his direction. Better yet maybe he'd like to offer up his little brother. Nah, I'd hate to victimize his little brother for Troy's idiocy.

Regarding the "angel light", well, if it can see through the wall then why doesn't it see through everything behind that wall as well? He's not talking about infrared like "seeing" he's talking about it being like a window has opened there with detail about the object behind it, it just doesn't pan out.

Obviously Mr. Hurtubise needs a reality check. Now I'm not claiming he couldn't invent something worthwhile by stumbling upon it, but he needs to develop a little more professional attitude. From what it looks like to me this guy is like a child that mixes up some things and thinks he's got something new.

Mr. Novak, boy does BayToday have it right. "We do news differently." Yeah, as in very, very shoddy journalism.

Well RC, at least I have the guts to use my name.

from what ive seen, this guy is for real, at least with his other inventions. his fire paste can withstand enormous heat, and every fire insurance co. is interested. i saw him on techt.v. and the discovery channel. he had isreali army officials look at his blast cushions, and put a bunch of dynamite on them while they were attached to a car door. this little cushipn completely absorbed the explosion. the guy looks to me like a friggin genius. only time will tell if the angel light works. i hope it does, it would have a million applications.

"the British have a real problem with journalistic integrity."

Two words: Fox News

"the British have a real problem with journalistic integrity. "

Irony?
2 Words: Fox News

Helluva comeback there Phil. Unfortunately it misses the point. I'm not the "journalist" here, you're supposed to be. It's your *job* to *investigate* and *question* the things you report on. This seems to be something modern journalists forget. Look at the debacle over the Bush National Guard documents with CBS. In the end it probably had the exact opposite affect they were hoping for because they tried to railroad someone with unsubstantiated bs. Look at what happened with the reporter at the NY Times a couple years ago and his false stories that were never checked.

Rob, "from what you've seen this guy is for real." Yeah, he's for real. He's a for real crackpot that got some attention from his "bear suit" (which is practitally useless) and now he's trying to keep the attention. What you've seen is exactly what the sensationalists want you to see without taking him to task on proof of this "angel light." It makes an interesting story. It's one thing for a layman to "invent" some things that align with pretty basic established physics, it's another to claim you've just dreamt about some fantastical machine and you've built it from your dreams. Uh sure, and I know the secret to cold fusion. Better yet, maybe we should get Hurtubise to work on that, I'm sure it'd be childs play for him. If this guy is a friggin genius...

It's incredible how easily some yahoo gets attention just because he did something kinda useless and strange with a "bear suit" idea. There's no real invention behind the idea that if you made an armored suit it could be bear resistant. However it was fun watching him take a beating in that suit on Discovery. Also, I haven't seen him actually take on a grizzly bear in one of those bear suits. Has he? I did want to see him get hit by a vehicle that didn't have a big pad on the front of it though. There's also no revelation behind his balistic pillows, and I already pointed at the holes in that one in my previous post. Rob, you might want to read it. Sure, you could cover the entire surface of a vehicle with that but then how practical will that be and is it any better than any established form of armor?

The fact that he's been on TechTV and Discovery doesn't mean his inventions are all legit, or that he is in general legit and of genius, it means he has "entertainment value."

Now if he proves this "angel light" thing works as he says I'll happily eat my words, each carved in a block of wood. I don't expect to be chewing on any wooden alphabet very soon though. But hey, if so then there'd be a couple of interesting stories to report on.

BTW Phil, my name is RC. Maybe I should contend your name isn't Phil?

RC, why would I lie about my name?
Anyway I have spoken to a nuclear physicist about the Angel Light and will be presenting his feedback, and that of others in the science field, in a follow-up article, along with new photos of the device.

Let me leave you with a quote from the English astronomer and cosmologist Fred Hoyle:

""I don't see the logic of rejecting data just because they seem incredible."

Phil Novak good for you, don't let them get you down. I have no idea why RC and guys like him act like this. Is it because the invention is NIH (not invented here)? Is it because he is dealing with France (after rebuff by America)? Is it because he is not classically trained (I don't think RC is very 'professional')?

I think we are witnessing a spectacle to be remembered. If we forget about the 'angel light' for the moment, we are witnessing the mindset that laughed at the Wright Brothers and laughed at Copernicus and lynched Galileo. We are privledges to witness the even that history books refer to tritely as 'popular disbelief' or 'resistance to their ideas', in reference to inventors and innovators. I just wish I could send this Troy guy an e-mail telling him that regardless of the invention he has my support just for trying.

Btw you guys are really sceptical. I really hope you are equally sceptical when it comes to religious beliefs. The pink unicorn bit can be applied to gods aswell

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They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Einstein. But you know what? They also laughed at Bozo the clown. Being laughed at is not a credential for anyone but comedians.

Mr. Novak, may I suggest that in addition to a physicist, you might also want to talk to a magician. I design illusions for magicians, and I can assure you, there's plenty of ways to pull of Troy's effect that don't require exotic physics, and could easily fool a scientist. Remember that scientists aren't necessarily trained to detect fraud.

In fact, this is giving me a new idea for an illusion....

correction donkey punch, in fact "they" (the better informed minds of the time) did not "laugh" at einstein, or copernicus for that matter. In each case it was more like shock and dismay. No shock and dismay here.

Phil, theres a real easy way to verify this thing works or not, go back to Troy and get video of it in action, post it on the baytoday website. Oh and one more thing, I'd definitely question Troy about his access to the piece of stealth material he said he used, if thats actual stealth coated RAM from the Comanche project then he could actually be in violation of some serious crimes along with the MIT person who gave him access to it.

Oh and for the record I'm going to bet hes either got a high powered microwave/x-ray emitter or something that throws out a really nasty EMP as a side effect.

It's amazing to me that the people who claim to be so intelligent are the most close minded and limited thinkers who can't expand their thoughts past their text book knowledge. As I read through the boards I hear mostly ridicule of this inventor because his inventions seem "wacky" or "bulky" or "impractible" or "defies the laws of physics".

I can see you guys standing on the beach at Kitty Hawk laughing at the Wright bros. "Ha Ha, big deal you flew a couple hundred yards in that giant contraption. Man can't fly, don't you know that?" Of course what is true is that YOU never would fly. "I'm so smart I wouldn't even try it because I know it wouldn't work."

Let me just pose this question: Which of these two people, being equivilent in ability & IQ are more likely to invent something that defies the laws of physics over their lifetime.... someone who is well schooled in the sciences and laws of physics or the guy who is kind of a "garage genius" who just does stuff without regard to KNOWN limitations?

You might consider asking yourself WHO it is that LETS US KNOW what those physical laws are. The more likely that this x-ray vision machine is real, the less likely you'll ever hear about it.

Of course since you don't hear much about it, that'll convince you that you were completely right all along, that it was a hoax..... "Ha, see I told you, my years of education told me right away this was impossible!"

"Besides, if things like this or say, anti-gravity vehicles that operate on free energy were invented and real, we would hear all about it. It would be the discovery of our lifetime, with free energy we would no longer have a need for fossil fuels".......... Hello, anybody home?

There is a reason why Nikola Tesla, one of the greatest inventors ever, is not a household name. If I say Edison, you say light bulb and phonograph. If I say Tesla you immediately see arching lightning in a labratory. Very few people will see, hydroelectric generator, electric motor, wireless technology, microwave, radio control, sonar, fluorescent bulb, neon lights, speedometer plus other stuff that would cause most of you guys to have an aneurysm.

So it would be kind of hard to claim certain technology doesn't exist today that Tesla already had a handle on 80 years ago. You should do some research on him.... you'll really have a good laugh.

Phil Novak said:

"Troy isn't the only one working on technology that can "see" through walls."

No doubt MANY people are working on technology that can see through walls? So what? That does not prove that Mr. Bear-proof Suit has actually come up with it. If he really has it, why doesn't he just demonstrate it? Seems simple enough.

"I refer your readers to the company Realtronics, in Hermosa, South Dakota. They also say they have developed or are developing something which can penetrate walls or the inside of mountain caves.

"Why don't you guys laugh at that company for a while?"

So there's another bunch of people who CLAIM to have a device that can see through walls. Again, so what? Why don't THEY just demonstrate their miraculous machine or process or whatever it is?

Several posters have brought up the notion of people having laughed at the Wright Brothers. Yes, I'm sure that happened, but you know what happened next? Wilbur and Orville actually FLEW their plane and the laughter stopped. Bearsuit Boy needs to demonstrate his magical machine. If it can do what he claims it can, the laughter will stop immediately. AND we will have a revolution in science.

People are entitled to laugh at those who make fantastic claims and who refuse to prove them.
There's no reason to take this "Angel light" nonsense seriously until such time as it is scientifically proven to work. Put up or shut up (or, as we say in the Bronx, shit or get off the pot.)

Angel Light may or may not be possible - until we see proof, not one of us can say otherwise. Every day scientists are finding that what we currently think of as the 'laws of physics', aren't as well founded as once believed; something like ‰Û÷Angel Light‰Ûª is ‰Û÷impossible‰Ûª from our current knowledge of how things work; but over a hundred years ago, so was flight - so was electricity, the telephone, computers, etc. These examples don‰Ûªt explain how we‰Ûªve overcome ‰Û÷laws‰Ûª, but they do give an idea of how ‰Û÷current day thinking‰Ûª is disproved time after time.

Aside from that, I thought I'd explain to everyone here, what's so important about the bear-suit:
1) Right now, there is NO safe way for a human to enter a bear cave, while they are hibernating - and prick them with a needle.
Why would anyone want to? Because bears produce a very unique hormone that allows them to sleep for three+ months; something that would have untold effects on space travel and medicine.
2) Eventually, once he fully tests his invention: He will look into ways to make the suit smaller, more compact, and easier to move in - so that it may be used as Riot gear, and eventually for the military to use.
3) Current riot gear is simply Kevlar or something similar - something that doesn‰Ûªt stop force, only bullets and on occasion, knives; along with a bullet proof shield - which requires the person to be facing the same direction as any object thrown. The bear suit, completely incases the user, stops bullets, absorbs force, and is strong enough to withstand a bear attack.

Now his LIMBC:
I have watched the discovery special on this stuff, and I have to say - I'm impressed; simply because Kevlar can NOT do many of the things LIMBC can, and steel is NOT light enough to be used in the places LIMBC can be used in.
Some examples of this would be the fact that he shot LIMBC with several types of rifles; many of which are known to penetrate Kevlar without much trouble.

The Canadian military officer he was showing the LIMBC to, was not allowed to say anything because:
1) It was national television.
2) He was under orders not to mention anything.

I have one question for Mr. Novac. Did he actually see a demonstration of the device? If not, then he really needs to reconsider his career choice.