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your making that up... and stop using my name! XDXDXD OMFG =P xDDDD

God Light is teh awesome!!! omg cure my rash!!! XD O_o...

to all you naysayers, look at the greatest inventors over history. all persecuted by modern science.

great inventors all have one thing in common, imaginations; and refusing to be constrained by conventional knowledge. the largest advances come from an unconcious understanding of complex ideas.

btw, nice video on his fire paste

http://patty.exn.ca/video/?video=exn20030903-firepaste.asx

Marcus Pratt said:

"to all you naysayers, look at the greatest inventors over history. all persecuted by modern science.

"great inventors all have one thing in common, imaginations; and refusing to be constrained by conventional knowledge. the largest advances come from an unconcious understanding of complex ideas."

Your logic is flawed, Marcus. While it may be true that all great inventors have been ignored or even ridiculed by others initially, it is not also true that everyone who is ignored or ridiculed is necessarily a great inventor.

I worked outside the White House for three years in the 90's. I knew several people who hung around 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. who had, shall we say, "interesting" theories on various things. They were ignored and/or ridiculed by a LOT of people. While many of them were very nice people, I think they could have been diagnosed as schizophrenic; their ideas were not consistent with reality. Get my point?

The fact that Troy Hurtubise is ridiculed in no way "proves" that he has invented a revolutionary device.

"Look at the debacle over the Bush National Guard documents with CBS." ?? You mean where the true fact that Bush sneaked out on his military duty got somehow buried in the snarling at the NY Times guy and the wrong one had to quit?? Yeah, look at it.

"try and remember that this is not, in fact, a website for the greatest theoretical physicists of our time to hash out new ideas."

Finally a piece of truth. 8<]

Is there any way to contact Troy Hurtubise? If firepaste does even 1/4 of what that Discovery Channel video demonstrated, is reasonably cheap and stable, I've definitely got a requirement for it and would like to license.

LOL! The vast majority of u guys are morons. I'm not saying this as an insult, but more as to say that if u dont understand something, then sthu.

And as for the bear suit, did you ever stop to think that most of his inventions are still in early devellopement due to lack of funds? The first "computers" would take up an entire room (a big one at that) and it took a long time before they became the desktops you use to write your stupiditys. So if i were you, I'd shut my pie hole before any one else makes a total ass out of you (well, makes it apparent anyway, your pretty good at making an ass out of yourself).

And for the record Jay, not all Canadians have such a thick accent, that is just stereotypical bull sh!t. Do i really have to remind you all of your less "develloped" states?... "dem der canadians talkin funny"

SCL said:

"LOL! The vast majority of u guys are morons. "

I'm guessing you're not in the diplomatic corps, huh? Seriously, starting off a posting in that way is just about guaranteed to get you not taken seriously.

"I'm not saying this as an insult, but more as to say that if u dont understand something, then sthu."

And just what exactly is it we "don't understand?" What YOU seem to fail to understand is the difference between "not understanding" something and being skeptical about the claims of its inventor.

"And as for the bear suit, did you ever stop to think that most of his inventions are still in early devellopement due to lack of funds?"

Well, that's a nice theory, but do you have any FACTS to back up the idea that Troy's things actually work as advertised? I have a time machine in my closet. All I need is $100 million to put the spit shine on it.

"The first "computers" would take up an entire room (a big one at that) and it took a long time before they became the desktops you use to write your stupiditys."

And this is relevant to the discussion of Troy's "inventions" how, exactly? This is really just a variation on the old "Many great inventors were laughed at in the beginning; Troy is laughed at, therefore he must be a great inventor" false logic.

If Troy's "inventions" work, all he has to do is DEMONSTRATE them. At that point, all criticism will cease. If he can't do that, he will continue to be laughed at. It's really just that simple.

"So if i were you, I'd shut my pie hole before any one else makes a total ass out of you (well, makes it apparent anyway, your pretty good at making an ass out of yourself)."

So when are you planning on starting to make asses of us, using LOGIC and FACTS?

Well, what i meant to say (altho not in a very dipplomatic way as i should've) is that its not the invention as it is presently that should b judged but the potential of the invention itself. The first planes (for example) werent as good as the ones today, but opended a doorway. Frankly, i doubt any of us could make something as elaborate in there own garage (im not saying you'd want to, its his passion not ours) but i dont think its fair to diss some 1 for their passion... Just cause im not as good as say Van Halen, Steve Vai or Jason becker on the guitar, doesnt mean that i should be insulted for trying to open new frontiers in music. That jsut doesnt make sens to me... If this is the attide that we were all to adopt, man kind would not advance.

SCL said:

"Well, what i meant to say (altho not in a very dipplomatic way as i should've) is that its not the invention as it is presently that should b judged but the potential of the invention itself."

Same goes for that time machine in my closet. Sure, it looks like it's made out of old paint cans and loose wires connected to random circuit boards NOW but it has great potential.

"The first planes (for example) werent as good as the ones today, but opended a doorway."

No, of course the early airplanes weren't as sophisticated as the ones of today, but they DID fly. When Troy can make his Angel Light thing "fly" so to speak, then the laughter will cease.

"Frankly, i doubt any of us could make something as elaborate in there own garage (im not saying you'd want to, its his passion not ours) but i dont think its fair to diss some 1 for their passion..."

Who has criticized him for his passion? The criticism is because he makes extravagant claims for devices which he then cannot back up with a simple demonstration. As I've said before, all he has to do to stop the laughter and criticism is show that his Angel Light thing WORKS. Until then, it has exactly as much credibility as the time machine in my closet: none.

"Just cause im not as good as say Van Halen, Steve Vai or Jason becker on the guitar, doesnt mean that i should be insulted for trying to open new frontiers in music. That jsut doesnt make sens to me... If this is the attide that we were all to adopt, man kind would not advance."

I don't see the relevance. He's not claiming to have a device which sees through walls better than anyone else's device can see through walls (that, of course, would be because such a device doesn't exist). He's claiming to be able to do that which seems to be impossible. All he has to do is back up his claims with FACTS. Why is this hard to understand?

I think it's because a lot of people identify with the romantic concept of the little guy against the system. Hey, I've said before that I'd be his biggest fan if he can just PROVE THAT THE THING WORKS! If he can't, he's not "the little guy fighting the system," he's just a blowhard.

Well, in that case all is fine. Altho, most of his inventions have been proved. The only real reason he wont do demonstrations is fear... Think about it for a sec. If you created something that was against the law of physics and it worked, but it had REALLY bad side effects that you dont understand (well in this case he doesnt really understand any of it other then how he put it together and "sorta" what it does)... It's the kind of fear that would be invoqued if some 1 were to test a new type of bomb on lets say okinawa (get where im going with this?)... The way i understood (misunderstood) what you said was that because it doesnt seem possible he must b a "blowhard". But then again, the guy who suggested putting electric strings on a guitar and placing lil magnets under em (pick-ups for the non-guitar savvy out there) was ridiculed and because of this guy the domaine of music has expanded beyond anything previously fathomable (especially with all those damn nice effect pedals ).

The one thing that makes me strongly question the authenticity of such a potentially physics shattering device is the lack of publicity.

Lets assume the device is real and actually works the way the inventor claims. In that case, I'd throw it on a flat bed truck and drive down to IBM, Raytheon, Northrup Grumman, Lockheed Martin, and every other large defense contracting company, and every company involved in creating medical diagnostic equipment and SHOW THEM the technology in action. I'd then introduce them to my lawyer and let them hammer out the details on where the bidding war would take place.

Following that? I'd work on my Nobel Prize acceptance speach.

What I wouldn't do is take my invention to the Discovery Channel... WTF. If it works, pimp that thing out and make some cash, get some recognition, and help kickstart a new field of physics.

Personnally, i would think twice before id mass produce and all that... They dont even know exactly what it does or how it works... it takes 10 years for a tiny little pill to be tested (and even then 10 isnt much)... so if it's something like that... id get some experts to do as much testing as they possibly can before id even turn it on again (what if it was a potential bomb without knowing it?)

also, (just to point something out) this site's info isnt correct... This thread starts with "Troy Hurtubise claims that he's invented a machine, dubbed the Angel Light, that can see through walls. It doesn't really matter what the wall is made of: wood, ceramic, steel, tin, titanium, even lead. The Angel Light can see right through it, just as if a window had opened up in the wall. Of course, he built this thing in his garage (where else?). The idea for the invention came to him in a dream, and he built it without the aid of any blueprints, drawings or schematics. Although Troy may hope to one day be known throughout the world as the inventor of the Angel Light, he's already well known as the inventor of the URSUS MARK VII, a suit that can help a man withstand the attack of a Grizzly Bear (see that suit in the right corner of the thumbnail? That's the Grizzly suit). So from Grizzly Bear suits to Machines That Can See Through Walls. No one can accuse him of not having an interesting resume." But he hasnt even completed the mark VII yet.

I thought it was particularily funny that he said he was using a remote controlled car, radar gun and this giant xray machine all at the same time. I've never operated a radar gun or giant xray machine before, but I have used a remote controlled car, and that takes a certain degree of concentration. But something tells me a huge pervert gun such as this probably requires two handed operation? Perhaps he invented winged-monkey minions to operate the machine for him while he was out saving the world from intelligence and reason...who can say for sure...would be cool, if it worked..but it doesnt.

Next he will capture the cure for clean air and say it was released from his anus....during a dream....in a flaming see through bearsuit.

You guys are idiots. You think just cause this guy doesn't have a pHD he can't invent things? How do you think invention happens? It's guys in their garages, tinkering with stuff until they discover something amazing. You think Edison went to school for 10 years to invent the light bulb? No! He sat in his shop and tried filament after filament until one worked. 30% Intellegence and 70% Luck describes pretty much every new invention.

Nobody is claiming that a person in a garage cannot invent something.

The bottom line is that extraordinary claims must be met with extraordinary proof. This guy has made extraordinary claims, but has NOT provided the proof required to support his claims.

I'll repeat my earlier statement. If this thing were real, you WOULD know about it. Such an invention has applications in just about every industry and he would be marketing it to each of them to try and capitalize on his invention.

It wouldn't be hard to get an audience with major companies in each industry either. If his initial marketing attempts failed, all he would have to do is make a few phone calls to major media outlets (CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc.) and get them to perform interviews where you can see the machine working.

dood... if YOU dont believe that his invention works, do you really think that CNN will?

And do you REALLY think that you would market something beyond your understanding? (many such things occured with medicin and caused a whoal hell of alot of trouble...)

As i said before (and nobody seems to read before posting), isnt it logical to thoroughly test something before it is used by Mr John Q. Public?...

Troy has made other inventions before, and has proved them. If you look around, there are videos of him testing his inventions... ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL!!!

So before you make a flaming idiot of yourself, google his inventions a bit, he's got more credibility than u.

Fusion Knight said:

"You guys are idiots."

Way to make friends, F.K.

"You think just cause this guy doesn't have a pHD he can't invent things?"

No one has said any such thing. Your "argument" is the type of thing that frauds like to use to bolster their claims (no, I'm NOT saying that YOU are a fraud. I AM saying that frauds use that "logic" to divert criticism).

"How do you think invention happens? It's guys in their garages, tinkering with stuff until they discover something amazing."

Actually, nowadays, most inventions are NOT created by the stereotypical guy working alone in his garage. I like that romantic notion as much as anyone, but the modern reality is that most things are invented by well-funded people working for large companies. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is.

"You think Edison went to school for 10 years to invent the light bulb? No! He sat in his shop and tried filament after filament until one worked."

Edison had a very large laboratory full of people who worked full-time on projects at his direction. I'm not entirely sure that the story about Edison working solo, trying thousands of different filiments, is true, but the electric light bulb does not violate the known laws of physics, unlike Troy's "Angel Light." You people who support Troy's claims keep ignoring that salient fact.

You also keep ignoring the question of why, if he has in fact invented something that would turn the scientific world on its ear, he doesn't simply DEMONSTRATE it? The day I invent a car that can drive coast-to-coast on a teacup full of water, you can bet your life I will tell everyone who will listen about it. What possible incentive would I have NOT to?

"30% Intellegence and 70% Luck describes pretty much every new invention."

As I said above, most inventions on the market today were created by large companies. If your percentages were ever accurate, I'd say they aren't any more.

S_C_L-1 said:

"dood... if YOU dont believe that his invention works, do you really think that CNN will?"

I know that wasn't addressed to me, but I cannot figure out what you're trying to say.

"And do you REALLY think that you would market something beyond your understanding? (many such things occured with medicin and caused a whoal hell of alot of trouble...)"

Again, what are you trying to say? Are you saying that Troy doesn't understand his own invention? Medicine is not perfect, but before a medicine is allowed to go to market, it is tested on many animals and humans. Where's Troy's testing?

"As i said before (and nobody seems to read before posting), isnt it logical to thoroughly test something before it is used by Mr John Q. Public?..."

Yes, that makes sense. So, why did Troy talk to the media about Angel Light before, as you are apparently claiming, having tested it? Nobody twisted his arm to show it to the TV people, right? The reality seems to contradict your point here.

"Troy has made other inventions before, and has proved them. If you look around, there are videos of him testing his inventions... ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL!!!"

I'll keep making this point until you apologists understand it. His other inventions do NOT violate the known laws of physics, unlike Angel Light. If I told you I could fly under my own power, without the use of any mechanical devices, would you simply accept my word or would you ask me to demonstrate my alleged ability? Troy's claim is no less outrageous than that, so why don't you insist that he SHOW YOU??

"So before you make a flaming idiot of yourself, google his inventions a bit, he's got more credibility than u."

And if we were to Google Troy Hurtubise, would we see AN ACTUAL DEMONSTRATION of Angel Light or would we simply see the same stuff we've already seen? I think we all know the answer to that question.

The bottom line here is very simple: If he can't or won't demonstrate that his "invention" does what he says it can, why should anyone believe him? Because he invented a bear suit? Sorry, that just doesn't cut it.

Crankymediaguy said:

I know that wasn't addressed to me, but I cannot figure out what you're trying to say.

Did you even bother to read other posts on this page?

Again, what are you trying to say? Are you saying that Troy doesn't understand his own invention? Medicine is not perfect, but before a medicine is allowed to go to market, it is tested on many animals and humans. Where's Troy's testing?

No, he doesnt understand his own invention. If it defys the laws of physics, who does understand it? lol

Yes, that makes sense. So, why did Troy talk to the media about Angel Light before, as you are apparently claiming, having tested it? Nobody twisted his arm to show it to the TV people, right? The reality seems to contradict your point here.

Angel light is the only 1 of his inventions without video recordings of it beeing tested. All (or all the good inventions anyway) have video footage of them beeing tested/prooved(there was a link to the discovery channel's site on 1 of the earlyer pages i think)

I'll keep making this point until you apologists understand it. His other inventions do NOT violate the known laws of physics, unlike Angel Light. If I told you I could fly under my own power, without the use of any mechanical devices, would you simply accept my word or would you ask me to demonstrate my alleged ability? Troy's claim is no less outrageous than that, so why don't you insist that he SHOW YOU??

i suggest taking a lil trip to india my friend...(ive seen it with my own eyes... find something a lil more perplexing next time ) With the magnetic field of the earth, and the energy stored in your electrolytes, it is theoretically possible to levitate or at the least, lower your weight significantly (depending on the atmospheric pressure/the strength of the earths magnetic field at that specific location/the charge in your electrolytes etc)

And if we were to Google Troy Hurtubise, would we see AN ACTUAL DEMONSTRATION of Angel Light or would we simply see the same stuff we've already seen? I think we all know the answer to that question.

No, you wont c a demonstration of Angel light. But if you actually stopped beeing so lazy and pressed the damn search button, you would find out that he dismantled it after the initial tests, and then sent the blueprints to engineers in europe for them to work on it. Also, you would c videos/info on his other inventions. NOBEL PRIZE winning inventions i might add!

So whom do you think i trust more? a NOBEL PRIZE winner with video footage of his tests or a lil media fanatic who has his head so far up his @$$ that he closes off his mind from anything that would bend the "laws" of physics?

"oooooo noooo! he burst my bubble!"

and btw, re-read my previous post if you only read the 1's in bold

(its not THAT hard to read now is it?)