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Angel Light Sees Through Walls
Troy Hurtubise claims that he's invented a machine, dubbed the Angel Light, that can see through walls. It doesn't really matter what the wall is made of: wood, ceramic, steel, tin, titanium, even lead. The Angel Light can see right through it, just as if a window had opened up in the wall. Of course, he built this thing in his garage (where else?). The idea for the invention came to him in a dream, and he built it without the aid of any blueprints, drawings or schematics. Although Troy may hope to one day be known throughout the world as the inventor of the Angel Light, he's already well known as the inventor of the URSUS MARK VII, a suit that can help a man withstand the attack of a Grizzly Bear (see that suit in the right corner of the thumbnail? That's the Grizzly suit). So from Grizzly Bear suits to Machines That Can See Through Walls. No one can accuse him of not having an interesting resume.
Listed in chronological order. Newest comments at the end.
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Another thought: what if it's a miniature directional black hole?
Posted by oldbushie on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 03:16 PM
oldbushie,
you are either hoplessly ignorant of real science, or trolling for flame. I suspect the first, though. You're in college, so why don't you take an introductory physics class? It would really open your eyes to what science and physics are all about.
It seems like you got your knowledge of physics from comic books, science fiction novels, and Star trek re-runs. Those are all works of FICTION.
You're 20 years old fer'chrissakes. Put the Manga away and start acting like a grown-up. Your parents aren't sending you to college so you can waste your time and talents in make-believe land. The real world is much more interesting.
Learn about it.
Posted by JoeSixpack on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 04:01 PM
you are either hoplessly ignorant of real science, or trolling for flame. I suspect the first, though. You're in college, so why don't you take an introductory physics class? It would really open your eyes to what science and physics are all about.
It seems like you got your knowledge of physics from comic books, science fiction novels, and Star trek re-runs. Those are all works of FICTION.
You're 20 years old fer'chrissakes. Put the Manga away and start acting like a grown-up. Your parents aren't sending you to college so you can waste your time and talents in make-believe land. The real world is much more interesting.
Learn about it.
Joe Sixpack said:
"Oh, I'm surprised you havn't heard already. The demo went off great. Troy said that the secret French millitary guys were "VERY impressed" and that the observers from MIT and CERN said they would have to "rewrite all the physics books". Turns out Promethius et al were 100% right about it and CrankyMediaGuy, Joesixpack, and all the other narrow-minded flat-earthers had to eat their words."
Well, is my face red! I mean, if Troy says it went well, it MUST have. Who could doubt the inventor of the Amazing Bear-Proof Suit Mark Something-or-other?
Someone please tell me where and when the burning of all the physics text books in existance is going to take place.
Posted by crankymediaguy on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 05:37 PM
"Oh, I'm surprised you havn't heard already. The demo went off great. Troy said that the secret French millitary guys were "VERY impressed" and that the observers from MIT and CERN said they would have to "rewrite all the physics books". Turns out Promethius et al were 100% right about it and CrankyMediaGuy, Joesixpack, and all the other narrow-minded flat-earthers had to eat their words."
Well, is my face red! I mean, if Troy says it went well, it MUST have. Who could doubt the inventor of the Amazing Bear-Proof Suit Mark Something-or-other?
Someone please tell me where and when the burning of all the physics text books in existance is going to take place.
Well I've read entirely too many posts regarding "Angel Light", and to tell you to truth, I thought the article was a tabloid when I saw it linked to on a forum. What confused me was why the responses on the forum reflected legitimacy, so I've been wasting time looking into it since. I'm under the impression the guy must be crazy, but I still have an odd interest. What was supposed to happen today that would prove this thing? Is there a follow-up story, or what?
Posted by Ryan Randolph in California on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 09:37 PM
Rayan,
As always with these sort of stories, there's never a follow-up story. Novak needed to fill up space in his newspaper, so he did what newsmen have been doing since the invention of the press.
He wrote a story about a crack-pot with some outlandish claim, and rather than doing any fact checking, he simply "accepted" the claims at face value and ran the story. Why not confirm the claims? Because then there'd be no story.
Crazy claims get more people to read, and more people reading equals more ad revenue. Look at all the hits to his news website that this forum has generated.
Novak doesn't care whether or not he has any journalistic credibility so long as people keep reading his crap.
Posted by JoeSixpack on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 05:48 AM
As always with these sort of stories, there's never a follow-up story. Novak needed to fill up space in his newspaper, so he did what newsmen have been doing since the invention of the press.
He wrote a story about a crack-pot with some outlandish claim, and rather than doing any fact checking, he simply "accepted" the claims at face value and ran the story. Why not confirm the claims? Because then there'd be no story.
Crazy claims get more people to read, and more people reading equals more ad revenue. Look at all the hits to his news website that this forum has generated.
Novak doesn't care whether or not he has any journalistic credibility so long as people keep reading his crap.
ryan randolph said "I'm under the impression the guy must be crazy"
This is guy is definitively delusional - for proof listen to the interview...
Posted by Proof on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 12:46 PM
This is guy is definitively delusional - for proof listen to the interview...
Novak isn't a crack, and neither is Troy... If you'd search a little more, you'd find a recent radio interview with Troy regarding Angel Light...
Troy has invented many important things... and people should respect him... but noo, you people have to ack the same way people acted when some people suggested the world was round instead of flat >_>...
={ Troy's Fire Paste and Blast sheilds are not to be taken lightly... I can get the firepaste from any hardware store... and it IS his invention... so =P
Posted by SargeyTomeka in Canada on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 12:46 AM
Troy has invented many important things... and people should respect him... but noo, you people have to ack the same way people acted when some people suggested the world was round instead of flat >_>...
={ Troy's Fire Paste and Blast sheilds are not to be taken lightly... I can get the firepaste from any hardware store... and it IS his invention... so =P
SargeyTomeka said:
"Troy has invented many important things... and people should respect him... but noo, you people have to ack the same way people acted when some people suggested the world was round instead of flat >_>..."
So, we should believe Troy when he says that his invention (which he has never demonstrated) will revolutionize physics and that he is in touch with Prince Charles and Bill Clinton?
The bottom line is Troy has made extraordinary claims that he is either unable or unwilling to demonstrate (I'm betting on the former). The real question here is, in the absence of any facts, why do you BELIEVE him?
Posted by crankymediaguy on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 01:10 AM
"Troy has invented many important things... and people should respect him... but noo, you people have to ack the same way people acted when some people suggested the world was round instead of flat >_>..."
So, we should believe Troy when he says that his invention (which he has never demonstrated) will revolutionize physics and that he is in touch with Prince Charles and Bill Clinton?
The bottom line is Troy has made extraordinary claims that he is either unable or unwilling to demonstrate (I'm betting on the former). The real question here is, in the absence of any facts, why do you BELIEVE him?
SargeyTomeka said:
"Novak isn't a crack, and neither is Troy... If you'd search a little more, you'd find a recent radio interview with Troy regarding Angel Light..."
Novak sure isn't much of a journalist. And Troy STILL can't make his invention work in front of any reliable witnesses, even with a radio interview.
"but noo, you people have to ack the same way people acted when some people suggested the world was round instead of flat"
Why is it that you credulous illiterates always make that comparison? You always like to pretend you're Galileo or Colombus, a visionary genius surrounded by narrow minded morons who are frightened by progress. Pull your head out of the pseudoscience and pseudohistory and ask yourself what it is the sceptics seem to know that you don't. Spending all your spare time watching the Discovery channel and listening to "Coat to Coast AM Radio" is not the equivalent of an education. In fact, it's the opposite
Turn off the TV and open a book.
Posted by JoeSixpack on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 08:24 AM
"Novak isn't a crack, and neither is Troy... If you'd search a little more, you'd find a recent radio interview with Troy regarding Angel Light..."
Novak sure isn't much of a journalist. And Troy STILL can't make his invention work in front of any reliable witnesses, even with a radio interview.
"but noo, you people have to ack the same way people acted when some people suggested the world was round instead of flat"
Why is it that you credulous illiterates always make that comparison? You always like to pretend you're Galileo or Colombus, a visionary genius surrounded by narrow minded morons who are frightened by progress. Pull your head out of the pseudoscience and pseudohistory and ask yourself what it is the sceptics seem to know that you don't. Spending all your spare time watching the Discovery channel and listening to "Coat to Coast AM Radio" is not the equivalent of an education. In fact, it's the opposite
Turn off the TV and open a book.
I've read a majority of the posts here, and I've looked up about as much information on the Angel Light as I care to. What I can't figure out is whether everyone is claiming that making things invisible is impossible, or just that Troy sure as hell didn't do it. Personally, I beleive Troy is important in that he is constantly trying to make advancements, though they may be useless and a little nuts. Give the guy credit in that he thinks outside the box. Now it may be foolish but I have complete faith that making things invisible is possible. Yeah so maybe the world isn't flat, and maybe Troy didn't make an invisible ray but atleast he's trying and maybe one day somebody will, but try to keep an open mind and maybe a little imagination.
Posted by Mike in NJ on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 02:39 PM
http://www.americanantigravity.com/hurtubise.shtml
LOOK AT ALL THE GREAT STUFF TROY INVENTED!!!!
And they have interveiws with troy from like a radio!
All but Angel Light has been proven!!! Give him some credit, and once he's worked out the dagerous parts, we'll get our demonstration...
Troy has no reason to lie about it... everything he has invented has been amazing, and everything he has done has been true and proven...
He is not a crackpot... he just doesn't have a high class education in the fields he invents...
I can put things to gether and get something awesome too... I'm just not that creative...
Troy is a classic inventor in the coolest way!
I'm glad someone that doesn't know much about physics is giving physics majors a run for their money.
And we are NOT illiterates you asshole...
I too beleive that your all acting like the standard in historical disbileif and traditional laughing at amazing claims...
Who's laughing now, once we invent a deathray to destroy you all >:D hahahaha!!!
Posted by Snipper in the window 3 stories above you on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 03:05 PM
LOOK AT ALL THE GREAT STUFF TROY INVENTED!!!!
And they have interveiws with troy from like a radio!
All but Angel Light has been proven!!! Give him some credit, and once he's worked out the dagerous parts, we'll get our demonstration...
Troy has no reason to lie about it... everything he has invented has been amazing, and everything he has done has been true and proven...
He is not a crackpot... he just doesn't have a high class education in the fields he invents...
I can put things to gether and get something awesome too... I'm just not that creative...
Troy is a classic inventor in the coolest way!
I'm glad someone that doesn't know much about physics is giving physics majors a run for their money.
And we are NOT illiterates you asshole...
I too beleive that your all acting like the standard in historical disbileif and traditional laughing at amazing claims...
Who's laughing now, once we invent a deathray to destroy you all >:D hahahaha!!!
Mike, what Troy is trying to do is get people to pay attention to him. He is, at best, a pathological liar, and quite possibly delusional. The fact that a so-called "news organization" would carry the story without verifying a single one of the claims should outrage every thinking adult.
It's pretty obvious that the only reason people do believe his claims about the "angel light" is because they think "it would be neat if it really worked". Lot's of things would be "pretty neat if they worked", but that's not reason enough to put our faith in them. Let's face facts and accept that the only thing invisible about his ray-gun is ANY proof that the invention works.
You said, "try to keep an open mind...". Well, the sceptics here seem to be the only ones open minded to the probability that Troy is lying.
And, yes, Troy "thinks outside the box", but that's not really worthy of any praise unless he actually accomplishes something. Not every 'misunderstood dreamer" is a genius. Most aren't, in fact, most are nut-cases.
Posted by JoeSixpack on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 03:12 PM
It's pretty obvious that the only reason people do believe his claims about the "angel light" is because they think "it would be neat if it really worked". Lot's of things would be "pretty neat if they worked", but that's not reason enough to put our faith in them. Let's face facts and accept that the only thing invisible about his ray-gun is ANY proof that the invention works.
You said, "try to keep an open mind...". Well, the sceptics here seem to be the only ones open minded to the probability that Troy is lying.
And, yes, Troy "thinks outside the box", but that's not really worthy of any praise unless he actually accomplishes something. Not every 'misunderstood dreamer" is a genius. Most aren't, in fact, most are nut-cases.
Mike said:
"[M]aybe Troy didn't make an invisible ray but atleast he's trying and maybe one day somebody will, but try to keep an open mind and maybe a little imagination."
He didn't claim to have invented an invisibility ray, but a ray that allows you to see through solid objects, not exactly the same thing.
The problem here, Mike, is not that Troy is TRYING to invent something but that he claimed to have ALREADY INVENTED it. He says he's done it, but he can't prove it. Why should we believe him under those circumstances?
If you (or anyone else) want to work on a ray that can see through things, knock yourself out. It's probably a waste of time, but it's your time to waste. If you say you have actually done it though, why should we NOT call you a liar if you refuse or are unable to demonstrate your claim?
If he actually DID it, it wouldn't require an "open mind" to simply observe and marvel at his invention. It would be right there, out in the open, for anyone to see.
He said he would demonstrate it on the 17th. He didn't. Simple. He's full of shit. Period.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 05:02 PM
"[M]aybe Troy didn't make an invisible ray but atleast he's trying and maybe one day somebody will, but try to keep an open mind and maybe a little imagination."
He didn't claim to have invented an invisibility ray, but a ray that allows you to see through solid objects, not exactly the same thing.
The problem here, Mike, is not that Troy is TRYING to invent something but that he claimed to have ALREADY INVENTED it. He says he's done it, but he can't prove it. Why should we believe him under those circumstances?
If you (or anyone else) want to work on a ray that can see through things, knock yourself out. It's probably a waste of time, but it's your time to waste. If you say you have actually done it though, why should we NOT call you a liar if you refuse or are unable to demonstrate your claim?
If he actually DID it, it wouldn't require an "open mind" to simply observe and marvel at his invention. It would be right there, out in the open, for anyone to see.
He said he would demonstrate it on the 17th. He didn't. Simple. He's full of shit. Period.
Snapper, Troll or moron? It's getting so hard to tell. I think troll
Posted by JoeSixpack on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 05:38 PM
Cranky Media Guy,
You know he's reading this forum, and he's going to show up at your front door in the Ursus MK VII weilding a fucking axe.
Oooh, that'd make a great B movie. Full of un-"bear"-able horror.
Posted by Shazbot! on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 06:48 PM
You know he's reading this forum, and he's going to show up at your front door in the Ursus MK VII weilding a fucking axe.
Oooh, that'd make a great B movie. Full of un-"bear"-able horror.
I was hoping to find out weather this was real or not. If it is. then fair play to the man. I heard the Coast to Coast interview posted as a torrent some where 
. Still a bloody good dream if nothing else. But let's face it guys. If it does realy work.
Do you think we would get to know. They will kill him first. Just like the bloke who invented a car that could run on water.
Pete
Posted by pete in UK on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 06:55 PM
. Still a bloody good dream if nothing else. But let's face it guys. If it does realy work.Do you think we would get to know. They will kill him first. Just like the bloke who invented a car that could run on water.
Pete
hey shazbot, re:
"You know he's reading this forum, and he's going to show up at your front door in the Ursus MK VII weilding a fucking axe."
i think you need not worry...'weilding' is not within the capeablities of the wearer of an Ursus MK V11. He's basically imobile in the get up so just tip him backwards. but keep in mind that after he crashes down the front-door steps, his assistants will pry off his helmet, stick a ciggy in his gob and Troy will triumphantly pronounce this latest test of the Ursus V11 a resounding success.
Posted by Geebs in north bay on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 07:58 PM
"You know he's reading this forum, and he's going to show up at your front door in the Ursus MK VII weilding a fucking axe."
i think you need not worry...'weilding' is not within the capeablities of the wearer of an Ursus MK V11. He's basically imobile in the get up so just tip him backwards. but keep in mind that after he crashes down the front-door steps, his assistants will pry off his helmet, stick a ciggy in his gob and Troy will triumphantly pronounce this latest test of the Ursus V11 a resounding success.
pete said;
" They will kill him first. Just like the bloke who invented a car that could run on water."
You're kidding, right? Tell me you're kidding.
Posted by JoeSixpack on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 07:58 PM
" They will kill him first. Just like the bloke who invented a car that could run on water."
You're kidding, right? Tell me you're kidding.
O_o Troy has never lied before... so therefore you have no reason to beleive he is lying...
He is under pressure from many governments about this invention... the local news was alowed to slip some info to the public... but Governments dont want this to get out...
So we will be lucky to see what his invention can do... but we may not if the government wants it secret...
Posted by H-man on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 11:43 PM
He is under pressure from many governments about this invention... the local news was alowed to slip some info to the public... but Governments dont want this to get out...
So we will be lucky to see what his invention can do... but we may not if the government wants it secret...
H-man said:
"O_o Troy has never lied before... so therefore you have no reason to beleive he is lying..."
Oh? So he HAS been in contact with Prince Charles and Bill Clinton, received $40,000 from unnamed French people AND invented a machine which violates the known laws of physics?
"He is under pressure from many governments about this invention... the local news was alowed to slip some info to the public... but Governments dont want this to get out..."
And you know this how? Which governments are putting pressure on him? If you know that some are, then you must know which ones, right? Tell, please.
As for local news "slipping some of this out," uh, Troy contacted news people and TOLD them about his "invention." He also announced that he would have a demonstration, which appears not to have taken place.
"So we will be lucky to see what his invention can do... but we may not if the government wants it secret..."
It's fun to make up stories, isn't it?
Posted by crankymediaguy on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 11:48 PM
"O_o Troy has never lied before... so therefore you have no reason to beleive he is lying..."
Oh? So he HAS been in contact with Prince Charles and Bill Clinton, received $40,000 from unnamed French people AND invented a machine which violates the known laws of physics?
"He is under pressure from many governments about this invention... the local news was alowed to slip some info to the public... but Governments dont want this to get out..."
And you know this how? Which governments are putting pressure on him? If you know that some are, then you must know which ones, right? Tell, please.
As for local news "slipping some of this out," uh, Troy contacted news people and TOLD them about his "invention." He also announced that he would have a demonstration, which appears not to have taken place.
"So we will be lucky to see what his invention can do... but we may not if the government wants it secret..."
It's fun to make up stories, isn't it?
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