Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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The first GLARING fact that everyone is missing here is this RODEOWEST and website is flatly, no mistake about it, claiming this to be Jim Morrison of the band the DOORS. Son of Admiral G.S.Morrison, etc.
Listen people. Lawyers dont f**k around. So the estate of Jim Morrison should have shut this site down by now. This is a passive fact, but the lack of action against Rodeowest raises my eyebrows firstly.
Someone is saying the IRS would be after him. Bah. Anyone with millions can change their name, alter their face, change countries. Attorneys can arrange ANYTHING. Most don't know this because were not millionaires. People with money operate in a different world. His royalties could go to a trust, a laywer, several ways to trickle down..so NEXT!
Another genius poster said it doesn't look like him. Well, I did a "quicky" in photoshop and overlayed the famous Lion photo with the Rodeowest photo. It matched medically. The width of the eyes match very-very close. The eyes would be a first starting point as the eyes fix early in years, and stay fixed as we grow old. I calculate Jim Morrison the singer for the DOORS would be 64 now. The face would elongate and the nose would expand, etc. No photo of a 27 Y.O. would not match said person at 64 exactly. I find the picture on Rodeowest actually remarkeably similiar to the Jim of 27 photo. There is a similiar asymetry of the left eye, which is a bit more closed than the right. The curve of the nose matches. The chin matches as does the DISTINCTIVE mandibular angle. Vertically, all of the classic "Da Vinci" proportions are in place. Eye to nose, nose to lips, lips to chin. As well horizontally. Square face and distinctive mandible to bite ratio.
Personally, looking into the eyes of the famous Door's photo, and the photo of the man on the Rodeowest site, there was a subtle connection.
The RODEOWEST agent says he has fingerprints of Jim Morrison now. So, that would be interesting to see side by side.
Again, I cannot say it is him, but there are quite a few interesting things going on here. I don't respect the loud mouths who just barf up negative comments without posting a few facts or connections. Thats lame, even if this is a fake.
If this guy is a FAKE and a CON, this is DAMN good. Very very good. It DOES medically look like a 62 year old Jim Morrison to me.
And if youre going to slam my post, go ahead, but do with FACTS and logic not more lame excretions.
who's knockin ur post? every one has an opion bro,that's why we are all here. did u get my last email?
please explain why you are doing this again is it because your title is Press for rodeo west???????????? ur phone # and everything is right there on Pitts site? whats up with that????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Thanks Keri and Aries for your kind words, but I confess that Jlizzards comments did a good thing...because firstly I contacted my Uncle who is still alive and resides just ousite of Paris...he is quite old but still very fit and health...I asked him to refer back to all those years ago..and his response to me might explain something to those who do not live in France.
1)coffin was nailed shut AFTER being identified by friends.(it was over 40C in Paris that year)..my Uncle said that every body (corpse starts decomposing after about four hours in that heat...Keri is this true?..I'm not a medical person.
2)It was Madame Roche who notified the authorities...ie my Uncle and NOT friends or family of Jim Morrison...due to a leaking within her ceiling.
3) France is very different to the USA with regards to the treatment of deads...ie open casket is acceptable but not without embalmbing..it is only usual in the winter. or cool months.
I leave you with this thought...and I'm leavin for Paris tomorrow because I'm so excited about this...My Uncle was as is a total beurocrat and has told me he took photos of every corpse that he had to associate with...He did not know that Jim Morrison were a celebrity..he was just a summer body like hundreds...noone ever asked him..noone except me..despite all the history..fame etc..I dont hold my thumbs just now (fingers crossed you say I think)..just imagine if the photos are of Jim...well RIP..if not? Hmm
I'd like to say more but space doesn't allow
best
Andreii
Jlizzarrd...I hope to say Hmmm and what
I only posted my mail about 20 minutes ago and already Jlizzard slighted me although I sort of agreed with him just now...Jlizzard...stop being rude to people who are trying to be serious about a subject!
I have no idea if Jim Morrison is alive or deads...but if you purporte to be him..and if you are him (which I dont believe you are for a single moments).but if I believed you were him.then I will rip up every poem that you ever wtote (I felt to me when I was a young boy)...I will smash every record in my collection (I only have two)...Jims poetry meant so much to me..so if you're alive...and especially if you're Jlizzard then you are a beast...and better off dead...lets see what my Uncle has to offer!
I suspect that you are a nasty gentleman with nothing good to say about anyone...let alone about yourself...You most certainly not my hero...
Andreii
Best
Andreii
(ps I'm sad that I got into this debate)
Not only the French are buried here. One striking tomb is that of Oscar Wilde. There are always a few fresh flowers. But there are so many celebrities, you can buy a special 'map' at the gate. It includes a list of poets, painters, singers, actors and well known courtesians. Schools often bring their classes here.
When Jim first took me there in 1968, he walked through the gates with an exuberant air. "Thanks you," he flapped his map in an attendant's face. "I've already got one!"
"How long have you had it?" I asked.
"Almost two years," he said.
He gave me a frown. "I have a propelling pencil!"
I have just returned from my familys home near Paris and I retrieved three photographs which my Uncle took of what he thoughted was a middle aged American guy in that summer.
I must say that he is totally amazed about the fuss and bother about Jim...no one has ever asked him about it though he was one of the first there; no biographer..no writer ...nothing..I'm afraid I have something that might upset many people.
I have three polaroid photos of a person who looks very much like Jim Morrison...one on left side of face..one on right side..and one of whole person covered with what looks like a curtain or cover of some kind...In no way do I say it is him..but by God it looks like him.
I desribe for you what he looks like (you understand that firstly I must send these photos to his family and so on for their consideration, before I release to the public...my Uncle insisted this.
The photos show a guy...rather plump with a (flannel?) in his hand with what looks like a bit of blood on it..His eyes are semi shut and his face does not smile like I read before somewhere but looks..hmmm pained?..like he'd had a fright or something.
His face is dead white but his hands and feet appear dark in these pictures..they're pretty good quality for their age.
As I said before I must send these photos to the family before releasing them publicly...I am not a huge fan as I said before..just a connexion within my family..his poetry moves me more than the music...I'm sorry because I think I'm about to spoil some dreams and wishes...I too wish he was still alive and writing that beautiful poetry;
I'm sorry but when you see these three photos you'll (probably) manage to believe
Best as ever
Andreii
I am so sorry that i posted my comments before I read yours...I was too excited to write what I found at my Uncles.
To answer your question, I know from my own experiences what it is to die in France...Grandfather..Grandmother and so on.
The custom (usually) is to have a coffine opened fo the family to view..to say goodbye before burial...not many here are crematione
My understanding from what my Uncle said yestersay was that as it was a holidey, there was no morticians who could embalm his body..with fluid instead of blood...instead they packed the body with ice to delay...hmm decomposure?
This is not unusual in France...though it might seem strange to Americans....the family look after the dead before the State gets involved. I hope I dont sound arrogent because I write these things with Anglo/French dictionary
Best regards Keri
Andreii
As a young boy, we were removed there with teachers and so on to look apon the tombs of Wilde and other poets etc..we were never allowed to go near Jim Morrisons grave because there were too many hazzards,,,needles..syringes etc. Later I visited it and have done so many times since.
I love poetry...Rimbaud especially...but I dont find Jims resting place very peaceful at all...it is a disturbed place...Rimbauds tomb in Charleville (N/E France) has a different vibe...not the same at all...All Americans should visit both!..Paris is the most amazing city in the world...and Charleville the strangest.
I keep reading this site and it occurs to me...and to quote Rimbaud.."only I hold the key to this wild parade"...I hope I help you all and bring some conclusion to this question.
A
phone number to reach jim's family!
I have today given instructions to my Family lawyers to handle thes matters (they are way too big for me)...and way to big for my family!
I started writing this cos of family rumours and so on...and sow something very incredible (amazing?) has happened which even I didnt expect.It seems to me absurd that it has taken me one week to obtain evedence that no one in thirty five(?) years could find even tho some are still alive..all they had to do was ask...no wonder there is such a conspiricy theory.
I repeat..the photos I have may not be him..but they look like him very much..including some moles on neck which seem to be important in the question.
Keri, My lawyers will contact you soon; but as I hope that you understand ..they want to do this in the correct manner. They have told me that they intend to try to reopen the police report and perhaps demand an exhumation in Pere lachaise. They have already heard that an exhmation may already have happened a few years ago..but I know nothing about this.
I hope you understand that for me to release these photos would be a terrribe thing to his family, and I dont want to join the rumour circus..I was shocked when I saw them..but my Uncle insists that I do this correctly.
Bear with me for a short time Keri..I promise you if your credentials are correct you will be one of the first.
Huggs
Andreii
I read what I said before and realise it sounds a bit rude..{harsh?)..I dont mean that at all because reading your previous comments on this site makes me think that you are a sensitive person who cares for the Jim...and you have always been polite and kind to me despite what you may personally feel.
I dont want to be the guy that destroys myths..I think its almost as bad to Americans as the guy..Wilkes Booth? who shot Lincloln.
I dont think that we Europeans ever doubted that he was dead..that he was an astounding poet and died for whatever cause..the problem for Americans (and I have many American family) ..and freinds..is that they somehow believe that to die abroad is not quite correct!
Keri..I will do this quietly and respect my family..as I respect you and Jim Morrisons family. I think you will understand this.
Gods to you Keri
Andreii
(PS please excuse the English..I had to write this quickly
A
I spoke to a member of the Morrison family yesturday they do not want to see your pictures I have no reason to lie.To them Jim is dead and they do not want nothing to do with anything,I found out that guy in Oregan could knock on there door with a needle and say I need to do DNA and they won't.They will not speak to you and they do not want to see them period..The way they act is weird but being there is 4 guys on u-tube claiming to be him can you blame them,They think doing a DNA test is rediculous they know there son is dead,Well to me they must know he is alive and they are keeping quiet because a man stands up and says I am your son lets do a DNA test that is kind of suspicous! I am doing an investigation and here soon I am going to have the doors and the Morrison's all in one big court room! They are hiding something BIG TIME!
You say you walked in paris with jim,
Who are you,You are really a funny guy,I have been to multiple sites and seen you write about how you believe the guy in Oregan is Jim Morrison.
Who are you,You even put Utube video's up for Rodeo west,Again who are you? You got something to say because andreii got those pictures,Why would you run your mouth about that,Oh I know because you think the guy in Oregan is Jim! Come on Jlizard whats your deal be real with us you come off in secret stop talking to us if you can't even say who you are!
I'm just a Jim Morrison fan and not any kind of celebrity. Nor will I ever be. I did about 2 looooooong years time for Rodeoswest, Inc. because of my sincere appreciation of what Gerald Pitts did to break this story out. I distributed a couple dozen Discovery videos around the world, been on the Chicago MANCOW talk show for an entire day, been banned from the DOORS websites, gotten a video to Billy Idol's manager Carol, and have talked to Cliff Morrison.
Gerald and I had a business falling out so I'm out of the loop with rodeoswest and that's fine. I am still indebted to him in gratitude. I am disgusted with how people can view his tape which has ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF JIM IN IT, talk to him for hours, regurgitate everything he has taught them and then mock ridicule him. Especially people from major cities that are not sophisticated enough to have a university or a higher center of learning.
Keri..this is probably my last post because I didnt enter this debate to argue if Jim Morrison was alive or deads. Untill I started I didnt know it was such a ..hmm hot topical subject. I merely asked my Uncle...well I've said this all before and dont wish to repeat.
If the Morrison famili do not want photos then that must be their choice Keri...I suggest to you that that perhaps they have mourned their son for over a quarter of a centuary...and if that is their wish...then those photos will return to my Uncles cabinet and will never be seen until his decease..if ever.
Keri..I come from a quite wealth family and wished no gain from this..I just thoughted I coluld lay some ghosts down.
As for you Lizard...you fraud, you ill mannered man...where once did I seek rerward? where once did I seek to gain in these mails...If you knew him as you say then how come his poetry did not inspire your schoolboy pathetic lines...you idiot...stop insulting someone like Keri...who at least beleives a thing truthefully instead of being a pathetic nothing like you. Keri Dont let yourself be upset by this hick..he obviously has little education, and less manners.
Regards Andreii
I was just about to leave the site when I read again what you have said..I have said and what lizard has said...
Its bizare because it seems to me that most agreee on either of two points..
1)Jim is alive
2)Jim is dead
You and Lizard thing both agree he's alive! so stop the argue...Lizard..be more polite then maybe you will have more respect from people. Keri..dont get upset bt his rantings dressed in faux poetry..."extending pencil"..I ask you! how rediculous..assinine rubbish.
My solicitors will continue to try to contact the family of Jim Morrison to see how they wish these photos to be handled...if they wish them to be destroyed then they will be..totally. It is my Uncles instruction.
Lizzard...If you want to talk about uneducated cities...well let me inform you that Paris had a University from about 250AD which I suggest is many centuries from whatever ill informed institution that you attended...if any.
Andreii
What's it to you if we discuss this forever? There is a simple solution to your problem DONT READ IT! You are not forced to, you know.
Rhiannon
NO! We do no choose to stop this "nonsense", I believe Canada is a free country just like the USA, we can discuss what we want no matter how far-fetched it may seem to others, with the emphasis on discussion - the exchanging of other people's ideas, it doesnt mean that every single person on here subscribes to and believes wholeheartedly in this discussion especially the more insulting ones and ignorant ones. Why dont you stop reading this or if you must take whatever "chill pill" you need to before you do.
Rhiannon
HELL YEAH TELL EM!
Now if you do see this video I will tell you what to look for ok so you don't think I am nuts...
In the beginning of the video you see a chic next to her you see a balloon that says 35 look to the right of the balloon over by the wall its Jim,and up against the brick wall you see an indians face.
Now at the end of the clip you will see a concrete doorway stop and look at the top of the doorway,if you don't see it jim don't want you to see him,
First to JLizard,I understand you put alot of time into this whole thing with Gerald Pitts and did your research,Well I got more research done in 1 month than you did in 2 years only because I have the ability,No I am not cutting you down or anything,no I am not being rude so just wait,Ok I believed so much like your self it was really him,gerald has not seen him in 8 years,his name is John not jim and he did 5 years in prison,Did you know that,Geralds main concern is to sell the video's
John is gone! No one is going to buy them,He would be better off filming Jims son atleast he is alive today,Gerald is a really nice guy,But before I leap I look where I am leaping...I am becoming very close to jim's son we talk everyday,
He wants me to come out to LA..He sounds just like his father I feel I am talking to Jim......Jim is dead,1000% sure he really is gone,
So I no longer will debate the fact this john guy in Oregon is Jim he is not Jim....And I found out the truth about Jim, he is in paris in that plot he is gone.....So Jlizard if you want to make good use of your time me and you can write abook together on the whole story of this guy in Oregan and how he said he was jim!
Peace Out while I go see if I can spot Jim at the local mall with Elvis
Rhiannon
who are you talking to exactly,you got your first laugh of the day,not to be mean but if this is your first laugh you must be kinda lonely,
I haden't intended to comment on these pages again but I looked just to see if Lizard had picked any holes in my prior statements. (which as I have already comment on..is in the hands of family lawyers.
I was surprised to see that Lizard did not comment...and more amazed to see continuing attacks on both Keri and Aries...both of whom are opposed to eachother as to whether Morrison is alive or not.
As I said before, I have no positive evedance...just three photographs of what may or not be a dead Jim Morrison. I can understand debate over this issue but when comments become cynical and sort of nasty like Rhiannons are...then it sort of defeats the object does it not?
Rhiannon of course you may enter this debate..it is a free world after all....but please dessist from using expletives such as "Oohhhhnoooo" as it is meaningless with no basis in any modern language that I know of and is only used in the context that you used it,as a kind humilliating 'put down!' to Keri...whom I do not think deserves exposure to bad manners!
Keri..My Uncles lawyers want to talk to you; if you have contact address with regard to Jim Morrison estate. They have contact the U.S Embassay in Paris who could not help...all they wish to do is send original photos including my Uncles hand wrote report to the family...for them to do as they want....destroy or whatever! So if you dont mind I will give them your mail address.
I'm sorry all about my aweful English..if I had more time then it would read better...I wish you all a good night, its twenty to one in the morning here and I must to bed for the mornings work.And please everone!..be polite to eachother in dissagrements, otherwise it is just a fisticuffs...a fight..a brawl!
Love
Andreii
Please don't forget about me I want to see them to
yes the morrison's will destroy them,of course thats why I want to see them because I will know if it is Jim or not,I will very easily! Take a copy and email me one its not the original picture anyway,email me the copy not the photo,And yes the attorneys can reach me and I will put them in contact with jim's son or dad!
I will contact my Uncles lawyers tomorrow to see what can be done with regard to your request.
I must tell you that my Uncle is very old fashioned in these situation and still very reluctant to release anything impropper...(not right?) to anyone other than the registered next of kin (I think you say).
My view is this...if at all possible..I think these photoes that I have should be shown to public gaze, because I think..and I have looked at them for days and days now...that they are of Jim Morrison..I am not a liar and my Uncle certainly isn't!...he most certainly does not wish fame for a dead guy who he didn't even know was famous until a few weeks ago.
Keri..be calm.. (I mean by this to have patience)I am proceeding in the best way that I know how to. My Uncles lawyers have had no success until now as I said with contacting the Morrison family..and while they dont doubt that Cliff Morrison is perhaps his son (I dont doubt it Keri)..he is not yet next of kin...legally speaking...Do you see our quandry?
My family dont want to seem like grave diggers...we are in no need of money even although I know the value of what these photos probably are.
Its not me Keri...I want to release them to the fans...but my Uncle (right now) does not permit..and I must respect him.
Sweet dreams from the magical mountains between France and Spain...the magnificent Pyrenees!
A bientot! (local dialect)
Andreii