Is Jim Morrison Alive?
Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.Posted By: Alex | Date: Sun Jan 02, 2005 | Permalink |
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Category: Celebrities, Death
Category: Celebrities, Death
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I have not herd any thing about this on france24. There is a site http://www.24france.com
Nothing about a Morrison dig-up.
May I inquire where you have herd this.
thank you.
Posted by Anon in Switz on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Nothing about a Morrison dig-up.
May I inquire where you have herd this.
thank you.
>>Do you honestly believe he would sell out and live in Oregan on some farm wearing wranglers and stuff, with some woman that is not Pamela??
As I've stated several times, I still believe Cowboy Jim is likely a scam, as striking as some of the pictures are, but I think your above statement is incredibly naive. If it is true that he faked his death and escaped (still a big IF for me), then you cannot expect he would have the same type of life as before. He was probably tired of being the mystical famous poet rock star. I think quietly living on a ranch somewhere raising horses is absolutely within the realm of possibility for him at this point.
And his relationship with Pam was so on-again off-again, from what I've read... we can't presume to know what the state of that really was... that was entirely personal between them. I'm sure, if he did escape, it was an extremely difficult decision, and leaving Pam behind was one of the things he would have had to accept.
The thing is, people sometimes change in a big way... My life is almost drastically different than it was about 12 years ago (I'm a recovering addict), and at that time when I got clean I had to make some big changes and essentially stop hanging out with certain people who had previously been a big part of my life and who I still love very much. But there's a point when self-preservation has to trump everything else. Jim was clearly sick and in danger of death (whether that actually happened or not) with all of his coughing up blood (which has been witnessed to by those who were with him in Paris), so he may have come to a point where he said that it's now or never as far as making a decision to duck out of being "Jim Morrison" and become "Bill Loyer" (or whoever). I would presume he checked immediately into some kind of rehab hospital for quite a while to get in better shape, and then who knows...
But in essence, you're still seeing or wanting to see the Jim Morrison of 1967, not the one who may have been up against a life or death wall in 1971 and definitely not the one who would have lived thereafter (if that's true). There's actually something that rings true for me about Jim raising horses on a ranch out in the woods that seems to fit what might be expected of him if he really did escape his former life.
-DC
Posted by Dennis Crane in Washington on Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 08:58 AM
As I've stated several times, I still believe Cowboy Jim is likely a scam, as striking as some of the pictures are, but I think your above statement is incredibly naive. If it is true that he faked his death and escaped (still a big IF for me), then you cannot expect he would have the same type of life as before. He was probably tired of being the mystical famous poet rock star. I think quietly living on a ranch somewhere raising horses is absolutely within the realm of possibility for him at this point.
And his relationship with Pam was so on-again off-again, from what I've read... we can't presume to know what the state of that really was... that was entirely personal between them. I'm sure, if he did escape, it was an extremely difficult decision, and leaving Pam behind was one of the things he would have had to accept.
The thing is, people sometimes change in a big way... My life is almost drastically different than it was about 12 years ago (I'm a recovering addict), and at that time when I got clean I had to make some big changes and essentially stop hanging out with certain people who had previously been a big part of my life and who I still love very much. But there's a point when self-preservation has to trump everything else. Jim was clearly sick and in danger of death (whether that actually happened or not) with all of his coughing up blood (which has been witnessed to by those who were with him in Paris), so he may have come to a point where he said that it's now or never as far as making a decision to duck out of being "Jim Morrison" and become "Bill Loyer" (or whoever). I would presume he checked immediately into some kind of rehab hospital for quite a while to get in better shape, and then who knows...
But in essence, you're still seeing or wanting to see the Jim Morrison of 1967, not the one who may have been up against a life or death wall in 1971 and definitely not the one who would have lived thereafter (if that's true). There's actually something that rings true for me about Jim raising horses on a ranch out in the woods that seems to fit what might be expected of him if he really did escape his former life.
-DC
I correct myself--it is france24.com
DC you could be right.Anything is possible. No autopsy, no one knows where he was was being kept during the days before he was buried.
I do not believe Ronays story how it all came about.I do not believe he is in that grave.The french will never exhume that grave.Only his family have that ability to make such a decision.
If he died we all have a right to know where and how.If he chose to fake his death then his privacy is his right.I cannot say if that photograph is Jim as there are some striking resemblences.
Question! if Jim did live would he not receive money from The Doors royalties today.Could not that have been set up by his attorney or thru a third party?
Posted by Anon in Switz on Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 09:50 AM
DC you could be right.Anything is possible. No autopsy, no one knows where he was was being kept during the days before he was buried.
I do not believe Ronays story how it all came about.I do not believe he is in that grave.The french will never exhume that grave.Only his family have that ability to make such a decision.
If he died we all have a right to know where and how.If he chose to fake his death then his privacy is his right.I cannot say if that photograph is Jim as there are some striking resemblences.
Question! if Jim did live would he not receive money from The Doors royalties today.Could not that have been set up by his attorney or thru a third party?
Oh my God... I can't see any of the matureness you guys talk about. If Jim Morrison was actually alive ant if it had been proved, then it would have been a mass phenomenon, the new Evangelium lol. But he isn't and it obviusly has not been proved. On the mountain rogue shit website they say some scientific test have been done, that must be a lie, because had they proved anything we would all know it with full certainty. It would be bigger than Jesus' resurrection, of course. Today we have T.V and internet, remember?
Posted by Deep Revolver in Cartagena, Colombia on Tue Jun 23, 2009 at 08:19 PM
I think that it is a national phenomena and have about a quarter million hits on the youtube videos that I have posted. It is a phenomena that it is in a cutthroat competition for phenomena- could you imagine: We interrupt this episode of American Idol to bring you a news flash: JIM MORRISON IS ALIVE!- AI spends millions to make their viewers think they are getting a glimpse of heaven. As does every individual rock group out there- Alice Cooper, Billy Idol, John Mellencamp wants you to worship only them. It's in their contract. It's why Jim got out and is very careful about getting back in.
Posted by JLizard in Indiana on Wed Jun 24, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Well i havent visited in days, and still nothing new, once again..........sigh
Posted by Changeling in PA on Wed Jun 24, 2009 at 06:56 PM
Right you are.Nada here.
Who started that rumour that Jim was going to be dug up on the 24th here?? I knew that was not true.
July 3 is near and this board will see action again Im sure.
Posted by Anon in switz on Wed Jun 24, 2009 at 07:40 PM
Who started that rumour that Jim was going to be dug up on the 24th here?? I knew that was not true.
July 3 is near and this board will see action again Im sure.
u all know jim was arrested more than once so that means his finger prints where takeing so all 1 would have 2 do is compare knowing prints of jim an the guy who says he jim an thats that we know the lizard king is alive or dead or still hiden in africa lol
Posted by back door man in minnesota on Fri Jun 26, 2009 at 09:18 PM
I think door man has a very good point. If this loser living in Oregon is the real Jim why doesnt he just submit some fingerprints?? No more bullshit of imposing the old dudes face over Jims. My 12 year old brother could impose a pic of a dolphin over an elephant and make it look right.. SO Jliz please do explain that one for me, since you seem to have an excuse for everything in your sick excuse of trying to pull a few bucks in.
Posted by Mrs. Mojo Risin in Texas on Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 08:27 AM
JLizard...dont knock Alice Cooper! I think he's awesome and has been all his career!..at least he's still alive and didn't drop dead like Jimmy did!
Has anyone checked out "Mystery man" on YouTube?..I wont say his name but "blue suede shoes" should give you a clue...If this guy isn't the real thing, then I'm JM's Mum!
Have a look anyway..I guaranee its more convincing than this scrawney dildo who proffeses to be Jim Morrison...at least this guy denies being the man in question!
Cheers
Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter in London, England on Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Has anyone checked out "Mystery man" on YouTube?..I wont say his name but "blue suede shoes" should give you a clue...If this guy isn't the real thing, then I'm JM's Mum!
Have a look anyway..I guaranee its more convincing than this scrawney dildo who proffeses to be Jim Morrison...at least this guy denies being the man in question!
Cheers
Andrew
Switz Anon,
How would I have a clue what was going to happen in Pere Lachaise? I only saw a brief report on France 24 a while ago...did it happen? I dont know, nor do I care much!
It seems to me that you cant post on this site without the forensic scrutiny of the half informed...anyone called anon should just belt up!..what possible contribution can they make to a forum that is already tainted.
I can express a view or opinion if I want to! and I've never lied in my comments, on any subject..so I'm damned if I'll be lectured to by an Anon Switz..a silly superflous Country if there ever was one. At least have the courage to let me know your name, and recognise that your foul country harbours Nazis and bankrolls criminals!..The Swiss are a non-race of folk anyway..their opinions are as void as their species.
Posted by Andrew Carpenter in London on Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 05:11 PM
How would I have a clue what was going to happen in Pere Lachaise? I only saw a brief report on France 24 a while ago...did it happen? I dont know, nor do I care much!
It seems to me that you cant post on this site without the forensic scrutiny of the half informed...anyone called anon should just belt up!..what possible contribution can they make to a forum that is already tainted.
I can express a view or opinion if I want to! and I've never lied in my comments, on any subject..so I'm damned if I'll be lectured to by an Anon Switz..a silly superflous Country if there ever was one. At least have the courage to let me know your name, and recognise that your foul country harbours Nazis and bankrolls criminals!..The Swiss are a non-race of folk anyway..their opinions are as void as their species.
Sorry if you feel I have lectured you Andrew. I simply asked who said it. How many rumour have we heard about Jackson being buried at NeverLand then we find out he's not. I apologise to you friend.
I have lived in Switz. and am a USA resident by birth. If you ever came to Switzerland you would find the people friendly. Im not so crazy about their government. Im concerned about how our government may turn to socialism.
So there you have it, my name is Steve!
And I want to give my respects this day of
July 3rd to Jim Morrison wherever he may or not not be.
May he never be forgotten.
Posted by Anon (Steve K) in USA on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I have lived in Switz. and am a USA resident by birth. If you ever came to Switzerland you would find the people friendly. Im not so crazy about their government. Im concerned about how our government may turn to socialism.
So there you have it, my name is Steve!
And I want to give my respects this day of
July 3rd to Jim Morrison wherever he may or not not be.
May he never be forgotten.
Hi Steve Switz,
I really didnt have a beef with you at all..my only problem is folk who post as annon..you're not annon now...you're Swiss Steve..it sounds way better than Switz anything.
I apolgise for my rude remarks to you a while back, but the truth is I still dont know if Jims grave has been cleaned up...theres a spooky silence in this respect.
My problem is that all this mystery perpetuates JLizzards comments,,I dont have a problem with JLizzard;I think that he is an extraordinarily eloquent guy.
I'd rather suspect that he's Jim Morrison, rather than that cowboy. I'm not sayin that he is!! as I believe Jim Morrison is dead in his grave..but if anyone was Jim I guess it'd be JLizzard..There I've said it..Are you Jim Lizzard?
Great if you were..Nighty night
Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter in UK on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 05:01 PM
I really didnt have a beef with you at all..my only problem is folk who post as annon..you're not annon now...you're Swiss Steve..it sounds way better than Switz anything.
I apolgise for my rude remarks to you a while back, but the truth is I still dont know if Jims grave has been cleaned up...theres a spooky silence in this respect.
My problem is that all this mystery perpetuates JLizzards comments,,I dont have a problem with JLizzard;I think that he is an extraordinarily eloquent guy.
I'd rather suspect that he's Jim Morrison, rather than that cowboy. I'm not sayin that he is!! as I believe Jim Morrison is dead in his grave..but if anyone was Jim I guess it'd be JLizzard..There I've said it..Are you Jim Lizzard?
Great if you were..Nighty night
Andrew
Hello Andrew,
We all become very passionate about Jim on this board. I am familiarising myself with the posts here a little at a time. I have read a few from JLizard and am very intrigued by what he says.
I looked at the youtube of the comparison between the cowboy Jim and young Jim. Everything lines up, even the jaw.
I thought about Jim today and celebrated his music, despite the loss and sadness at the sudden loss of Michael Jackson.
And to all the folks on here, I wish you a Happy 4th of July!! USA--the greatest country in the world.
Steve K.
Posted by Steve K in USA/Swiz on Fri Jul 03, 2009 at 11:16 PM
We all become very passionate about Jim on this board. I am familiarising myself with the posts here a little at a time. I have read a few from JLizard and am very intrigued by what he says.
I looked at the youtube of the comparison between the cowboy Jim and young Jim. Everything lines up, even the jaw.
I thought about Jim today and celebrated his music, despite the loss and sadness at the sudden loss of Michael Jackson.
And to all the folks on here, I wish you a Happy 4th of July!! USA--the greatest country in the world.
Steve K.
Is it Jim or is it Not? Bank of America of Louisiana by Jim Morrison published by WILLIAM CASTLEBURY (William as in William Loyer)
review
by Ken Wasky (Thunder Bay, Canada)
To me this book fully explained why Jim might have faked his death. The constant harrassment from the authorities made his life unbearable as it would any of us. His life became split into two realities. The one which the media made him out to be and his own: deep, creative, exploring. Two Jims, two personalities, intertwined yet separate. One very happy and one very very sad. Reading this book made me understand that he had to disappear. But, is Jim dead or not? Well, we do know there is much mystery about it. This book put my spirit at ease with any of the many possibilities. Mind expanding so to speak! I highly recommend you get this book for it may be the best you ever read.
Posted by Jlizard in Indiana on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 09:03 AM
review
by Ken Wasky (Thunder Bay, Canada)
To me this book fully explained why Jim might have faked his death. The constant harrassment from the authorities made his life unbearable as it would any of us. His life became split into two realities. The one which the media made him out to be and his own: deep, creative, exploring. Two Jims, two personalities, intertwined yet separate. One very happy and one very very sad. Reading this book made me understand that he had to disappear. But, is Jim dead or not? Well, we do know there is much mystery about it. This book put my spirit at ease with any of the many possibilities. Mind expanding so to speak! I highly recommend you get this book for it may be the best you ever read.
JLizard,
I dont want to say anything negative about your last post, as I haven't read it yet ..I will a.s.a.p
Now I want to say something without you going off on one ok? I'm not trying to patronise you..nor am I trying to pick you up on anything. Despite your sometimes outlandish remarks; I believe that you have a peerless knowledge knowledge about Jim Morrison.
Here's my problem.
Like many of us on this site, I went back to post one..with the many to's and fro's of some patently disturbed folk who contributed. If not disturbed; then manipulating and decietful. Some were blatant liars..and some (like me) reported snippets of things they heard, as I believe any forum should do.
JLizard, you baldly stated much earlier, that you walked with Jim in Pere lachaise during his so called last days, and swapped poetry and insights with him. All of this is possible of course..but do you remember Chris King who was in Paris at the same time as you say that you were there?, who knew Jim fairly well at the Alliance de Francaise?
I know that Jlizzard is a "nom de plume" but I now think that you should come clean.
This debate has moved on from the days of Keri and you beasting eachother...why not debate what we read and see here and there...if its outlandish?..lets argue, but dont let us get weird. I believe Jims dead. Thats my position..I'd love it if he were alive..thats my other statement!
I'll still yell LA Woman when I'm drunk, whether he's dead or alive..and I dont regret the days and hours hunting down Doors records all over England when it was hard to do it.
Peace guys!!..the old hippy maxim which is lacking on this site...peace to you all
Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter in London on Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 03:07 PM
I dont want to say anything negative about your last post, as I haven't read it yet ..I will a.s.a.p
Now I want to say something without you going off on one ok? I'm not trying to patronise you..nor am I trying to pick you up on anything. Despite your sometimes outlandish remarks; I believe that you have a peerless knowledge knowledge about Jim Morrison.
Here's my problem.
Like many of us on this site, I went back to post one..with the many to's and fro's of some patently disturbed folk who contributed. If not disturbed; then manipulating and decietful. Some were blatant liars..and some (like me) reported snippets of things they heard, as I believe any forum should do.
JLizard, you baldly stated much earlier, that you walked with Jim in Pere lachaise during his so called last days, and swapped poetry and insights with him. All of this is possible of course..but do you remember Chris King who was in Paris at the same time as you say that you were there?, who knew Jim fairly well at the Alliance de Francaise?
I know that Jlizzard is a "nom de plume" but I now think that you should come clean.
This debate has moved on from the days of Keri and you beasting eachother...why not debate what we read and see here and there...if its outlandish?..lets argue, but dont let us get weird. I believe Jims dead. Thats my position..I'd love it if he were alive..thats my other statement!
I'll still yell LA Woman when I'm drunk, whether he's dead or alive..and I dont regret the days and hours hunting down Doors records all over England when it was hard to do it.
Peace guys!!..the old hippy maxim which is lacking on this site...peace to you all
Andrew
Hey Andrew,
It was during a drunk stuper and I was just trying to be literary. Keri asked me to tell Jim that she greatly admired him and while speaking to his wife I did. I emailed Keri of this great favor I did for her and months later still haven't heard from her. I didn't know Jim before... he faked his death when I was only 4.
Posted by JLizard on Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 02:54 PM
It was during a drunk stuper and I was just trying to be literary. Keri asked me to tell Jim that she greatly admired him and while speaking to his wife I did. I emailed Keri of this great favor I did for her and months later still haven't heard from her. I didn't know Jim before... he faked his death when I was only 4.
Ok Jlizarrd..whats next? you'd never give up so easily. Its possible I suppose, that everything that you've commented on all of these months is mere fictioon or hyperbole. I suspect that Keri wore more than one guise; as I suspect did you.
The fact is that Chris King is a very old friend of mine; I've kown him since 1982 and I've been holding him back as a kind of trump card. he was in Paris and lived about four blocks from Jim at the time he died..not only that, he was in the movie production company that Jim was in within the UCLA complex.
Now, this is a fact..Chris doesn't know for sure that Jim is dead..and this is what annoys me..he saw that horrible coyboy Jim clip and said it could possibly be him. He said to me this evening that he sounded very similar to how Jim sounded "off scene"
What do I know anymore?..I give up!..My trump card says that cowboy Jim could be...well Jim..I guess I'll go and shoot myself now..
Bye...BANG!!
oops I missed
Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter in London, England on Wed Jul 08, 2009 at 03:50 PM
The fact is that Chris King is a very old friend of mine; I've kown him since 1982 and I've been holding him back as a kind of trump card. he was in Paris and lived about four blocks from Jim at the time he died..not only that, he was in the movie production company that Jim was in within the UCLA complex.
Now, this is a fact..Chris doesn't know for sure that Jim is dead..and this is what annoys me..he saw that horrible coyboy Jim clip and said it could possibly be him. He said to me this evening that he sounded very similar to how Jim sounded "off scene"
What do I know anymore?..I give up!..My trump card says that cowboy Jim could be...well Jim..I guess I'll go and shoot myself now..
Bye...BANG!!
oops I missed
Andrew
Gone horribly silent all of a sudden
Posted by Andrew Carpenter in London, England on Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 04:08 PM
Hi Andrew,
I didn't write with more than one guise, just good ol' jlizard. If I should be impressed that you know Chris King, than I am : ). This week I had the honor of speaking with Bill Loyer aka Jim Morrison's best friend David Logan. David is working on a website highmountainrogue which is to include more pictures of Bill and in time a video.
Posted by JLizard on Fri Jul 10, 2009 at 08:08 PM
I didn't write with more than one guise, just good ol' jlizard. If I should be impressed that you know Chris King, than I am : ). This week I had the honor of speaking with Bill Loyer aka Jim Morrison's best friend David Logan. David is working on a website highmountainrogue which is to include more pictures of Bill and in time a video.
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