Fake, no doubt about it.

Look at how you can go frame to frmae without any blur up until the frames which would prove
if this was fake or not...once she gets over the
goal the frames go from every 10th of a second to
a full second or higher! Obviously they were trying to hide something. You can also see that
as her butt hits the rim, both of her hands are outside of the rim and would never be able to get back in at that speed...both of her arms would have been broken. What scares me is that young cheerleaders will see this, think it can be done, and get hurt or worse trying to attempt it.

Well, as a former male cheerleader, I think it's a fake. Although, I do have to take issue with whoever said the guys would have to be closer to the camera to make it look like they threw her that high. Our squad has thrown girls higher than that; it's definitely possible to get a girl 15, maybe even 20 feet in the air with strong enough guys and a good enough girl. Anyway, I tend to think it's fake because:

1. No guys would be that irresponsible to put her at such risk

2. If she's anything like our girls, no way in hell she'd willingly try this. We had enough trouble getting them to leave the ground for basic stunts, they were so lazy...

Oh, and whoever said those guys are gay, YOU'RE AN IDIOT. How many times have you seen football players slap each others' asses? I agree, the guys here we a little over the top, but I think it was just all part of the act, the big celebration. After cheering 6 years, I think I've met 1 gay cheerleader, ever - most guys get into cheering for the girls, then get hooked on the stunting. I know I did.

"look at where her left hand is. It would have to be sticking thru the netting the way I see it."

Exactly. I didn't believe it when I saw it but I'm a Flash designer, I have extracted every frame with a special program. When you look frame by frame, her hands (especially the left) would have went through the holes in the net. At the angle she was falling and the way her hands are pointing, it's impossible that they would have passed through. THAT is a fact. NOT an opinion. It's right there in the frames. They should have had her hands straight up above her head. In my OPINION, the over-acting and script at the beginning of the short clip was pretty bad. They are acting as if they just decided to do all this in a few seconds of standing near a basket.

Saying it isn't real because of the way the net is bouncing or that someone wouldn't have thought about the physics of how to make it bounce in the right directions is hilarious. There are digital film students and hobbies going on with all kind of great looking stuff. I've seen it. It's just not your world. If you took this thread to the right forum, you would get a few different ways to do it. The software to set up something like this is getting cheaper and cheaper to do right at home. It's a very cool clip though. I'm just confused about why everyone would even question whether it could be done, with todays computer programs. I guess poeple here just haven't played with that sort of thing. Everyone just dubs things "photoshop". Has anyone here been to the movies lately? Look what can be done. ?? It doesn't take thousands and thousands of dollars to pull this off.

The reflection can be put anywhere you want. In fact, the old-school blue screen and lighting problems are gone. Really, they didn't even have to be at the basketball court.

Tony, that's some load of work you've put into this. I'm inclined to believe you when you say that it's fake.

First off, a commercial venture (or any group of reasonably intelligent people) would be VERY concerned about the potential liability if the girl got injured (the likelihood of which is high) on their behalf.

Let's look at this objectively: You're a company that wants an interesting piece of video. You can either throw a girl up in the air and pray that she goes through the hoop with no injury OR you can simply do what Tony is suggesting and FAKE THE DAMN THING!

Remember, all you really care about is the resulting video and the reaction it provokes. Why would you NOT fake it?

I have been a cheerleader in High School and for an elite team. There is no way that she could have made it through that net! If they threw her a few inches back she could have severely hurt herself or even died! And when a flyer comes down she has to open her arms to catch her bases and she open her arm

or it could be real and you guys need to all shut up

Wow, another convincing argument for the 'real' side.

Yeah, we should shut up. Obviously, Thomas is a deep thinker and really focused on the details. His facts are obvious. I have no common sense.

Thanks for your perceptive view Thomas. Next time, I will shut up. With your wisdom you have taught me a lesson, stimulated my mind, and raised my awareness.

I apologize for my existence. Please, please accept.

Ive seen this movie a couple of times even had a slightly higer res version of it.

Im 6'2 and weigh 64 KGs (Im an Aussie) which equates to around 140 pounds. I was a gymnast for 7+ years and moved from gymnastics to highjump and basketball when I got to tall and my skinny frame was never getting any bigger.

The quality is niether here nor there in my opinion because most crazy videos on the net are in low quality to help them spread quickly (thats not to say low quality doesnt help the fake rumours)

This is something I would perhaps try I remember setting up high jump matts and mini tramps and messing around like the guys in the half time slam dunk competions all the time in school. (those guys dive head first through the hoop all the time)

I would be worried that one of my fingers would catch on the net and her toes are nearly pointed enough to gaurentee a nice smooth entry and exit from the net. Her overall rotation path seems a little strange for me I would expect her to pop out of that tuck much earlier and pin drop through the hoop. If you also look at the frame before she is caught her arms are not by her sides they are outstretched and with the net allready pushed right its almost certain that her fingers would be caught by the net.

Hands up next time and a less convincing swish noise would help a basketball swish noise lasts for that long and she travels through the net for longer than a basketball.

I was still very impressed by it, just seems like its either a reasonable fake. or a very very lucky try at something a little stupid.

I the final thing that told me it was fake was she didnt seem at all impressed with her efforts the head grab seems very on cue to me if that was me i would be jumping around like an idiot.

Still very funny

A regulation basketball hoop is wide enough for two basketballs to pass through side by side, and that girl is a typically petite cheerleader. A topnotch college squad is precise enough to know the path of the cheerleader in the air. I'm sure they've run this stunt without the basketball hoop so many times, adding the basketball hoop was just a matter of choosing a precise starting point.

You are pretty ignorant. A regulation basketball hoop is 18" in diameter. A regulation basketball is 9 7/16" in diameter. There is NO way two basketballs can pass through side by side when fully inflated.

okay enough clap trap - here is my expert Australian opinion of this video.

The dude slapping the other guy's butt is definitely genuine. I have watched this over and over until my eyes bled and I can confirm that he laid one impressive smackdown on that guy's left butt cheek. I cannot and will not make any judgement upon his sexuality, although I am leaning towards him betting for the gay population as I humbly believe it was a pre-meditated action... especially considering the medium-to-large sized grin on his face.

However - I have grave concerns over the validity of the sound eminating from the slap in question. It sounds to me far too mechanical... nothing even close to the sound of a bare hand against a well-fed buttock.

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And so ends my argument. This video is clearly fake. If only they took due care when adding their shoddy special effects... clearly they're from Jean-Claude Van Damme's ex-special effects team.

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My mum could edit a better video using MS Paint.

I played the vid in slow motion and her head appears to wack the hoop.

Jason

Anyone know where this video is now?

as a cheerleader i can say that the flier could so fit through there and it might be fake but ya'all should stop acting so cool like you know everything! I think its real and super sweet! and about "so fake, her head would have gone through the rim..." um unless is HIT the rim and she held her head becuase it hurt...oh wait she did do that!...so eat it!

I don't think it's a big deal that it's fake, but I think it has to be fake. Even given that somebody could do it, that it could have happened, there's no way Nokia and Best Buy would be willing to buy into the kind of PR nightmare you'd have on your hands when a young, attractive cheerleader spends the rest of her life steering a wheelchair by breathing through a tube, all because she whacked the back of her neck on a basketball hoop.

I think it's cool to see. And the flash game on their site is fun. Still, I'm surprised they're airing the video. Because some high school kid is gonna try this and spend her life eating through a tube and breathing with a machine and Nokia and Best Buy are going to foot the bill.

Jason-

What website did you find the flash game at? I can't seem to find it anymore. Every time I go to www.pumpupthemovie.com, my IE browser can't find the web-page anymore. Anyone else having this problem?

Nevermind, all...just got it.

Why doesn't anyone look at the camera with amazement ensuring the camera guy caught the entire act? Not once during their celebration did anyone even glance at the camera?

I admit its cool and thats part of the reason i think that its real but i also believe its real because as she passes through the net it sways from her movement, you could ananlyze it down to the "t" or just admit its definetly real.

I have played basketball since i was in the 5th grade and know how big the rim is and the reaction of a net for a ball to pass through. I have seen it countless times in my day. Any one who thinks that this video is fake is completely wrong. watch the clip carefully you'll see how the net moves with her body and how the after shock of the net moving reacts to an object of her size after she passes through it. I am 6'4 and a little less than 200 pounds and i have pulled myself up through a rim before and I know if I can fit through it than a lot of girls could.

Its phillip again who posted the last message. To those who think it is too dangerous of a stunt to be performed. Your right but these people probably practiced for a long time using something has round as the rim. Yes it is dangerous but they did it it is no illusion.

Of course this is possible. It either happened or it didn't. Simple as that.

if you watch it slowly you can see that she goes in front of the rim, and they animate it so the net moves and add sound. watch her closely and you can see she goes in front.

This is a fake. Not that its impossible to do, it just happens to be a fake.. If you watch frame by frame you will notice that the back of her head actually goes further than the rim itself... if there really was a rim there, it would have definitely HURT! But there wasnt a rim when they did it, they just superposed it later and animated the net, easy stuff to do. Plus the cameraman just stares and says nothing??? Hum seems weird to me for a little homevideo!! If i were filming I would be yelling something like "holly fucking shit!!!"

plus the girl is like "are you sure?" and nevertheless does it a couple seconds later!! If She had a doubt i dont think she would have risked it!

Didn't anyone notice in the frame by frame that her left hand is outside the hoop? A fake for sure... also... her hands didn't get caught in the net... they should have been because they were not tight at her side but her fingers were 'out' to the side.

SO FAKE AL.

Another case solved by INSPECTOR HANDER!

It makes me laugh, some of the arguments for the "real" case on this one, Honestly i'd never let anyone throw me through a basketball hoop, no matter how big it is. I worry when i toss my flyers without precision tricks in the air, she comes down on an angle, kinda like a swing, and i don't think there's any way she'd be able to do that coming through a hoop. My 2 cents worth: Fake.

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It looks good! But slowed down, her left hand just could not fit. The weave and shape of a net is the same as a chinese finger trap. As she is passing through the net, it is stretching to get longer, yet her left hand is completely poking out. 40+ kg's of free falling weight passing through a net with a hand sticking out like that would certainly cause the hand to react in some way. I would like to believe this is real, but that left hand leaves great reservations.

Can we get any more info on this University of St Thomas stuff? Who is this girl? Where are these people from? Does anyone know anything more about these people that did this or that radio interview?

Yea listen Craig! I dont know about you but i think your a pretty big scum bag! If you're not in jail already, you should because just by reading what you said you sound like trash to me. If I was a police officer i'd take one look at you and be like yup! look at this guy! definatly should go to jail. He looks like he just walked out of a trash can!

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