Time Travel Mutual Fund

I just received this rather non-humorous letter from the folks over at the Time Travel Mutual Fund:

Hello Alex,
I see you have our site, The Time Travel Fund, listed in your museum
of hoaxes.(www.TimeTravelFund.com)
I am writing you to ask that you remove us from your site. We are not
a hoax; we are serious in what we are attempting to do. Your site
lists us as being a hoax as if it were a fact, not as simply being
your personal opinion.
While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, presenting it as a
fact and not an opinion is slander.



This raises a dilemma for me. I do, in fact, list the Time Travel Fund in my gallery of hoax websites, having assumed that the site was a kind of cute, tongue-in-cheek idea whose main purpose was to sell $10 certificates that people could hang on their wall as a joke, rather than really being in the business of fund management. But if they're perfectly serious about their time travel fund, then that makes it a kooky site, rather than a hoax site. Should I keep the site on the list? I'm not sure.

I'm inclined to keep it on there just to annoy them because I don't like their legalistic threat about me slandering them. But I think the best thing to do would be to keep their site in the list, but add a disclaimer noting that while I thought the Fund was a joke, the fund managers themselves seem to take their task very seriously.

Future/Time Websites

Posted on Thu Aug 19, 2004



Comments

Ummm, it works.
Can't tell you how I know, but if you look hard enough for the Time Travel conventions that have had 1000s of people show up when the advertisments for them aren't done til the future... Heard about one on the CBC a month and a bit ago... The news article was the first mention of it outside of someones secure safe.
Amazing what can be accomplished.
Posted by Ender  on  Wed Jul 06, 2005  at  02:56 PM
Also if its a scam its a damn creative one. You really get 5$ back from Paypal for signing up too..
So for 5$ you can pay some very creative people. Whats wrong with that?
You all spend more on crap Hollywood DVDs that do nothing for you life beyond entertain you for 1.75 hours. Or More on cigarettes in 2 days if you smoke.
Its about as much as eating a McD's meal, and you get the cool "sci-fi" fan certificate.
Who paid for the Star Wars ep.s 1-3 even though they were all garbage... Good special effects, but bad acting and bad stories... But are the 3 movies worth what you've spent on them? That they were made out to be good is a bigger hoax than a creative site thats enjoyable to read.
I haven't signed up, I dont work for them, I just found the site enjoyable and find the people who feel they have to criticise everything they don't understand are morons.
Read up on the potentials for M-Theory, I'd start with the Elegant Universe Nova DVD and Book. Look into the hyper dimensional physics research too... Scientists are divided on this topic but enough think its more than possible...
My interest in the Time Travel Fund comes from my writing sci-fi stories, its a neat thing. I apprieciate the work they put into it.
I'm also going to sign up. Just for the fun of it and that it pisses off closed minded sorts like a bunch of the commenters on this site seem to be.
Posted by Ender  on  Wed Jul 06, 2005  at  03:07 PM
greetings, this is tim and tom. we are from the future, the year 2043. We have just travelled back to 2005 to visit some relatives, and are just saying hi, and that these guys are liers. They cannot travel back in time, only we can. Soon after we invented a time traval machine, we patented it, rendering the technology innacesable to them.

Cheers
Posted by Timtom  on  Mon Oct 31, 2005  at  05:14 PM
Here is my theory on time travel, and yes, I know I am posting over 1 year from the origional post.

I used to believe that time travel is impossible. There really is no way to send things through time. For example, where is the logic behind me going back in time, telling myself not to go back in time to tell myself not to go back... If this happened, then how would I go back in the first place. Therefore the entire universe would be trapped in an infinate loop, and would remain so even without me finding myself in the past, because even moving 1 partical in the past would change the flow of energy in the future.

So therefore, there in no way that time = 4D and is set before it happens, because then we would be able to change it, but how can you change a preset sequence? So time is not set, it is not even an object, and nothing that happens is recorded. Time is just something that humans feel but it is not really there. The only way that time travel could ever happen is if a computer simulation of the earth could calculate what the earth would be like if a certain thing happened, and then amazingly powerful machines would convert the earth into enrgy, and then convert it back into matter in the requested image. But I don't see how doing this could possibly bring back an entire person. The only way to do that would be to clone them (which is already illegal). Would you pay to be cloned? I say keep them on your site with no explanation. Lets see them trying explain to a judge the perose of this service and how it works. Well, I would have said that if only I could go back 1 year ago and post this message then -> Maybe I'll pay mt $10 with an order for them to make me find this page 1 year ago and post this message to see what happens..
Posted by Sids  on  Wed Nov 09, 2005  at  03:13 PM
Hi Sids,

>where is the logic behind me going back in
>time, telling myself not to go back in time to
>tell myself not to go back... If this happened,
>then how would I go back in the first place.

This assumes there's only a single time line.

Unless you can disprove multiple time lines and all the alternatives that have the same affect, this is just another one of the many unresolved paradoxes raised by the potential of time travel.

You make several other assumptions like this.
Posted by James  on  Fri Nov 11, 2005  at  05:48 PM
One thing I
Posted by Marshall  on  Thu Dec 29, 2005  at  01:53 PM
The location of time travel has no bearing on the possibility of time travel. According to current scientific knowledge, there is no way for backwards time travel to work, whether you go back to meet your uncle or somebody on the other side of the universe.
Posted by Charybdis  on  Thu Dec 29, 2005  at  02:20 PM
Hey I am a registered user on Time Travel Fund and it started off as simply a joke, a $10 donation to get a plaque, a nice conversation starter. But I have done a little bit of research and it just so happens to turn out that over 700 of the users have become missing persons. This makes me wonder, could this $10 joke really turn out to be true? If so my $10 was well spent and if not then who gives a shit its $10.
Posted by jeff  on  Sat Nov 25, 2006  at  03:24 PM
I think time traveling might be possible but according to most scientist it is more likely that humans wil be able to travel to the future than to go to back to the past.
Posted by karenmolina  on  Sun Dec 10, 2006  at  11:18 PM
another similar site, again not a hoax they say as they have donated monies to time-travel-research (more than time-travel-fund did).
Posted by lynn garner  on  Sat Jun 23, 2007  at  03:44 AM
The Time Travel Fund is definitely 100% a scam.Do not buy into this.Warn your friends and family to stay away from this
Posted by Inuyaroolma  on  Wed Jul 11, 2007  at  04:44 PM
To Whom It May Concern;
A website that is called ''The Time Travel Fund'' that is scamming people out of $10 a head and it is a total fake invented by someone to get rich off of gullible people.To better explain it here is the weblink that you can click on:

http://www.timetravelfund.com/


and here is the name and address of the ring leader:

Wayne Quigley
PO Box 1165
High Point, NC 27261

Please stop these people from swindling innocent people any further.
Sincerly,
Inuyaroolma(A Concerned Person)
Posted by Inuyaroolma  on  Thu Jul 12, 2007  at  12:22 PM
Thanks for the warning, but other than personal opinion, what proof do you have of that. Thanks.

I don't mind parting with $10 for a bit of fun.
Posted by Justin F.  on  Thu Jul 12, 2007  at  12:41 PM
All I can say is - thank god he posted the exact same link that was already posted in the topic header.
Posted by Charybdis  on  Thu Jul 12, 2007  at  01:45 PM
Inuyaroolma.
I know Wayne Quigley. Wayne Quigley is a friend of mine and you, sir, are no Wayne Quigley.

Lighten up! The site is tongue in cheek. If you read it in it's entirety you will see that it makes no guarantees and is clear about what you get for your $10; A cool looking certificate and a lottery-ticket-like dream of a life in the future.
Posted by Scott in NC  on  Sat Jul 14, 2007  at  01:04 AM
I can assure you that this is a real scam. I know this Sydney Wayne Quigley, Sr. and let me tell you, this certificate that he prints out to mail to the idiots to support this fund only cost like $2 to do - how ever much he pays for the "acid-free paper" and his printer ink. So, what really happens with the other $8 that is being contributed???????? Hmm, well - he is laughing all the way to the bank and investing it in real estate. Don't believe me......Google his name, Wayne Quigley and you will see for yourself. Please don't by into this stupid time travel hoax. Maybe it worked in Back to the Future, but that's Hollywood for ya.
Posted by Spongebob  on  Wed Feb 06, 2008  at  02:19 PM
Ok, Spongebob, what is your real name and how do you 'know' me? Or do you prefer to hide your identity because you are too much of a coward to come forward and identify yourself? You didn't even spell my name correctly.
I have been completely open and honest about both the site and my identity. I have nothing to hide. If I were running a scam I could have easily had used a different name to register the domain, or even used domain cloaking to hide myself. But I didn't. Just because you don't think something can be done doesn't automatically make those trying scammers. Were the Wright brothers scammers when they built their airplane? No, they had a dream, and they ignored the nay sayers and look what the result of that dream is today.
In my experience those who try to tear down the dreams and accomplishments of others do so because they themselves are incapable of accomplishing anything, and they do this in order to justify their feeble existence to themselves.
Yes, I have multiple websites. Who doesn't these days?
One of them offers completely FREE jigsaw puzzles - you don't even have to register or give me your name or email address. A scammer would ask your e-mail address so they could spam the heck out of you.
So, Spongebob, squeeze the water out of your pants and come clean. Who are you? And what have you accomplished lately?
Wayne
Posted by Wayne  on  Tue Mar 25, 2008  at  09:16 AM
Hi guys,

Its Jesus here, ye thats right.

It was the night of the last supper, one of my good mates got me pissed up on red wine and we were chillin out in the yard. He told me about some time travel fund he found out about down the local. Being out my face at the time and knowing my death was imminent the next day, I filled out the paperwork and sent it off with the 10 Donkey fee.

Lets just say one minute I was stuck in a cave half alive after being in the cross and the next thing the bloody rock rolled out the way.

That was it, I was cast into the future. To the year 2008 infact where I am now. I currently live just outside of Wiggan in the UK in a nice 2 Bedroom semi detached with my Wife sheryl and 3 kids, Wayne, Robert and Shaneka.

Anyway, seriously sign up. Ask yourself WWJD? $10 is shit all.

One,

Jesus
Posted by Jesus  on  Mon May 12, 2008  at  12:37 PM
well tnx a lot for this post i found it realy helpfull.
tnx agian.
Posted by chen  on  Wed Jun 11, 2008  at  05:30 AM
so is it a fake or not? Will I be coming back or not? 😉
Posted by Majorca  on  Mon Jul 07, 2008  at  09:34 AM
I find this concept very interesting and intriging.$10 for a chance for freedom,total financial securement and a chance to star a new life in the distant.Personally I think it would be worth it.I hope I am permitted to join.I just donot want to get left behind.To all nay sayers donot knock something until you try it,and I have a strong feeling this is ''it''.I really,really would like to join if I am permitted.I recently had my e-mail account broken into(about 1year ago) and someone posing as me wrote some horrible stuff say it is a scam.Believe it is not,just cannot explain it(more of a gut and intuitional feeling)but it is not a scam one bit.I since changed my e-mail password(randomly) to prevent a next hacking into.
Posted by Lothario John-Ross-Johnson  on  Thu Jul 17, 2008  at  01:16 PM
This ''Time Travel Fund'' is a 100% scam.This man should be thrown in jail.Do not buy into this scam.Tell all of your family and friends so that they donot become victims of this idiotic,assisinine scheme/hoax.
Posted by Kalel  on  Thu Aug 14, 2008  at  06:47 PM
Hahahaha, I can't believe it! they have the gust to write you and ask you to REMOVE THEM from the hoax section... OMG!
Posted by Uri  on  Sat Aug 30, 2008  at  08:25 PM
Ask yourselves ... are you simply acting on your deterministic values ? Most of posts in here seem to be based on some doctrine of predestination thinking.
Posted by Bill  on  Wed Oct 22, 2008  at  11:55 PM
In fact the apperance of this artical to begin with is determinism. Your all determined to prove the world is flat and that the sun and indeed the universe revolves around the earth.
Posted by Bill  on  Thu Oct 23, 2008  at  12:05 AM
Come again in laymans terms?.What does''Your all determined to prove the world is flat and that the sun and indeed the universe revolves around the earth''means and how is this connected to this exactly?.
Posted by Lothario Johnson  on  Thu Oct 23, 2008  at  12:09 AM
Most of the posters on here seem to be having a struggle with the concept of free thinking. "You
Posted by Bill  on  Thu Oct 23, 2008  at  07:32 PM
in more blunt words ... close the bible and open your mind.
Posted by Bill  on  Thu Oct 23, 2008  at  07:37 PM
timetravelfund.com states they'd bring you back in time based on different situations. Thus, meaning they will not bring you back to a time that YOU want to go to, but a time that THEY want to bring you to. So what's the point in that? They might revive you when you're really old and want to die.

Also, the disclaimers have "scam" written all over them. The most obvious states that there is no guarantee that it will work. So if doesn't work, you can't even sue them because they already have a disclaimer saying there's a good chance it won't work.

If I want to go back in time, I want to go back in time to a time I WANT. I would want to use a time machine to go back to a set date that I want.
Posted by Duke Devlin  on  Thu Jan 22, 2009  at  01:56 PM
The problem is, if someone did decide to sue you for libel then you would be required to prove to a court of law that what you're saying is true (i.e. that the website is a hoax). Note the word 'prove', as the onus rests upon the publisher and not the complainant. If you were unable to prove that the site was a hoax, then they would win their libel claim.
Posted by James Hardaker  on  Sun Feb 08, 2009  at  05:10 PM
Thanks for the info here, However, I too had read about this in the newspaper, I don't think it is a scam.
Cheers,
Jastin from <A >panama</A>
Posted by jastin  on  Tue Feb 17, 2009  at  12:56 AM
even if "timetravelfund.com" was real, it says that it will take you to a time that THEY want you to go to. NOT the time YOU want to go to. So if you want to go back in time to fix an event in your life that screwed up your life, like me, then even if timetravelfund.com was real, it's useless.

They might "revive" you when you really wanted to die too!
Posted by Brisk  on  Wed Feb 18, 2009  at  06:45 AM
I wan to time travel too to fix my mistakes.
Posted by Eddy  on  Wed Mar 11, 2009  at  01:11 AM
hai very good information,i like it very much,

yahoooooooooooooooo........
Posted by Nishanth.B  on  Fri Mar 13, 2009  at  12:38 AM
Dear Time Travel Fund,
Inorder to complete full time travel...first you need an old Delouren and a flex copasatator, make sure you have ajug of gasoline just incase you run out in a year were that has not been produced....then turn on you car and gun it to 88!!!
Posted by Kylie  on  Fri Apr 24, 2009  at  11:30 AM
is it right?
really?
Posted by Antalya, Fethiye, Marmaris, Turkey  on  Tue Jul 07, 2009  at  12:41 PM
It would only be a scam if they were actually pocketing the money rather than putting it into the fund like they say.

To those who said it's a scam because it's not guaranteed, well DUH, it's not guaranteed! No one can know if time travel will be possible in the future or not. You should be happy with them for being very clear about this in the disclaimer.

It would be pretty silly to sue them. You know it's a risk you're taking when you join; personally, I think $10 for a small chance at visiting the future is a risk I'm willing to take.
Posted by Harold  on  Sun Sep 13, 2009  at  07:02 PM
and i found an alternative: http://www.voyageintime.com

Its a little bit more expensive than timetravelfund.com
Posted by Alex  on  Sat Oct 31, 2009  at  08:24 PM
It's not a scam or a hoax, twits... it can't be a scam, they state all possible disclaimers up front... it's for fun, you either participate or you don't... you look for it, they don't come looking for you. Of course it's not real, and even if they believe it themselves, it's still not a scam, they tell you right up front that it's strictly speculative.
Posted by tindog  on  Mon Nov 09, 2009  at  09:03 AM
This new site called voyage in time.com: http://www.voyageintime.com.it is charging almost twice the amount of time travel fund.I had a friend who e-mailed questions to this ''voyage in time'' and never heard from them again(even though they supposed to respond 24 after submission) .People beware of this knock off/copy of the time travel fund
Posted by Cutel  on  Wed Nov 18, 2009  at  08:10 AM
I'm just saying it shouldn't be in the Hoax Museum.
Posted by tindog  on  Wed Nov 18, 2009  at  12:32 PM
i have read the time travel site and i'm sure that they are for real. but i have to stop writing my mail now because its time for my medicine and the rest of my electron treatment.
Posted by annuities  on  Thu Dec 24, 2009  at  03:30 AM
If you were doing something that you thought was a serious attempt at accomplishing something, or you thought was just a cute maybe fun thing to do as a novel speculation, and someone put you on their site as a Hoax, wouldn't you threaten them with slander too? Grow up, take them off the site. (if you haven't already, I don't have time to check, I'm just responding to an email response)... either way, as I've said before, they don't come under the heading of hoax... really, it's only ten bucks, even if they were just keeping it, they would have to get tens of thousands of hits to make it worthwhile, so why bother... and if not, you may not believe it or agree with it, but that doesn't make it a hoax. This is the definition of hoax: TO TRICK INTO BELIEVING OR ACCEPTING AS GENUINE SOMETHING FALSE AND OFTEN PREPOSTEROUS - whether you think the Time Travel Fund is "false" or "preposterous" they aren't tricking anyone, they state right up front that the whole thing is speculative.
Posted by tindog  on  Thu Dec 24, 2009  at  12:13 PM
Thank you very much.is wish you success
Posted by Avsa  on  Sun Dec 27, 2009  at  12:51 PM
Holy crap, this country is chocked full of negative, arrogant, self-righteous people, and a lot of them post here apparently. The Fund is NOT a hoax, it's for FUN... remember fun? - even if there may be a small thread of hope that there is some truth to it for those that run it and participate. Lighten the **** up, people. If you don't want to spend 10 bucks to play, then don't, but there's no reason to libel, or slander, or defame, or make fun of, those that do.

And by the way, I've heard professionals with years of "schooling" and experience misuse libel and slander... slander is a more broad term and both come under the heading of defamation of character... if you defame someone's character in the form of some media, you are being libelous AND slanderous - ie, if someone defamed you in print, and someone else asked you what happened, you wouldn't say, "they libeled me by writing something bad about me", you'd say, "they slandered me by writing something bad about me." The use of the those terms, while not interchangeable, is understood, except by the self-righteous, who just have a need call out the mistakes or misunderstandings of everyone else. And as far as the "I don't see ANY legitimatacy in this." Criminy, (refer to the 'fun'and 'lighten up' comment).
Posted by tindog  on  Sun Dec 27, 2009  at  02:20 PM
I agree that whether they believe in it or not, until they can prove the legitimacy of thier "fund" it should stay on the site as a hoax or scam.
Posted by Travel Ins  on  Mon Jan 04, 2010  at  11:40 PM
my name happens to be Joe Peacock.
I linked to your website because i found it funny and thought you would like the publicity.
Sorry for any damage done
Posted by iddaa  on  Thu Jan 07, 2010  at  08:24 PM
i have read the timetravel site and i'm sure that they are for real. but i have to stop writing my mail now because its time for my medicine and the rest of my electro treatment.
Posted by Compliance Monitoring  on  Sat Jan 30, 2010  at  07:33 AM
Wouldn't we know by now if it were a hoax...or better yet wouldn't our future version ensure that our present version would invest or not invest?
Posted by Nicholas  on  Fri Mar 26, 2010  at  01:37 PM
I think the best thing to do would be to keep their site in the list, but add a disclaimer noting that while I thought the Fund was a joke
Posted by Comparison  on  Tue May 04, 2010  at  04:16 AM
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