Does President George W. Bush really have the lowest IQ of any president for the past 50 years?
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The Lovenstein Institute does have a website and appears to exist.
Posted by TR Carter in Maryland on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 08:16 AM
So it does: http://lovenstein.org/
Looks like someone is building on the hoax a bit.
Posted by Alex in San Diego on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 08:29 PM
Besides the fact that there are no links to pages introducing their staff and talking about their accomplishments (think tanks love talking about how wonderful each member of their staff is) and the lack of contact information, the WHOIS information is sketchy at best.
Things to look at: The phone number is a fake (555-1212? Come on!), as well as the street address. (There is no Lovenstein Plaza in Scranton according to MapQuest. And, before you dismiss that, "Digex Plaza" (Beltsville, MD) IS on Mapquest even though it is BARELY real (it literally is a private parking lot.)).
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Last Updated On:08-Apr-2004 00:33:26 UTC
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Admin Organization:Lovenstein Institute
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Posted by MikeH in Silver Spring, MD on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 09:16 PM
Fake or no, it isn't hard to believe.
Posted by carol in Philadelphia on Wed Aug 25, 2004 at 01:05 PM
Funny how all the Democrats have the highest IQ's and all the Republicans have very low ones. That's a big red flag. Of course, many people were so blinded by their bias against certain presidents that they felt those numbers HAD to be true. Says a lot about how people think.
Posted by Alex on Fri Oct 22, 2004 at 09:00 PM
That cartoon strip guy is always looking for ways to bash the Pres, not surprised he fell for this one...
The only reason that certain people feel the need to coment on Bush's supposed IQ, or how he's not that great at public speaking, is that the man is for real. There's nothing else to pick on.
Posted by Jaime in Boston on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08 PM
I think it's REAL
...but just the part about George W. Bush... unless they were OVER-ESTIMATING his IQ!
Posted by Kerry G. in Kitchener, ON [Canada] on Wed Feb 23, 2005 at 08:19 AM
Hey everyone,
this is an obvious fake. Notice how Cilinton's I.Q. is exactly twice that of Bush's. The study claims t run for 50 years but they put a president from before that time period on it. Not every president has written a book, and it is impossible to test IQ from writing and speeches. They used a bogus test... google it and you'll realize that it doesn't exist.
Posted by Brian in Denver on Thu May 26, 2005 at 01:55 PM
Funny how I would believe this true, if it wasn't for the fact that I live near Scranton and have never heard, seen, or noticed any mention of the place. If they had pictures, they would show a large college in the middle of the city, which would be The University of Scranton. Im looking for an e-mail address to see if I can crack them over the head with this information.
Posted by Nick on Fri Jun 17, 2005 at 09:30 PM
While this actual "study" and subsequent report may have been a hoax, it points out that sometimes fiction can actually be true. Based on George W's lack of coherent vocabulary, his inability to be truthful, his alcohol and drug use in the past and his willingness to believe in his own B.S., I would tend to think that an IQ of 91 is actually an over-estimation of what's going on between those ears of his!
Posted by PJ Strong in Washington, DC on Thu Jun 23, 2005 at 07:17 AM
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The Lovenstein Institute does have a website and appears to exist.
Posted by TR Carter in Maryland on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 08:16 AM
So it does: http://lovenstein.org/
Looks like someone is building on the hoax a bit.
Posted by Alex in San Diego on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 08:29 PM
Besides the fact that there are no links to pages introducing their staff and talking about their accomplishments (think tanks love talking about how wonderful each member of their staff is) and the lack of contact information, the WHOIS information is sketchy at best.
Things to look at: The phone number is a fake (555-1212? Come on!), as well as the street address. (There is no Lovenstein Plaza in Scranton according to MapQuest. And, before you dismiss that, "Digex Plaza" (Beltsville, MD) IS on Mapquest even though it is BARELY real (it literally is a private parking lot.)).
Domain ID:D75799131-LROR
Domain Name:LOVENSTEIN.ORG
Created On:07-Aug-2001 21:09:19 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Apr-2004 00:33:26 UTC
Expiration Date:07-Aug-2005 21:09:15 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R21-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:NN17158-BR
Registrant Name:NULL NULL
Registrant Organization:The Lovenstein Institute
Registrant Street1:Lovenstein Plaza
Registrant City:Scranton
Registrant State/Province:PA
Registrant Postal Code:18503
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Email:webmaster@lovenstein.org
Admin ID:SM5235-BR
Admin Name:Site Manager
Admin Organization:Lovenstein Institute
Admin Street1:Lovenstein Plaza
Admin City:Scranton
Admin State/Province:PA
Admin Postal Code:18503
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.5705551212
Admin Email:webmaster@lovenstein.org
Tech ID:SM5235-BR
Tech Name:Site Manager
Tech Organization:Lovenstein Institute
Tech Street1:Lovenstein Plaza
Tech City:Scranton
Tech State/Province:PA
Tech Postal Code:18503
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.5705551212
Tech Email:webmaster@lovenstein.org
Name Server:NS.NEWDREAM.NET
Name Server:NS2.NEWDREAM.NET
Name Server:NS3.NEWDREAM.NET
Posted by MikeH in Silver Spring, MD on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 09:16 PM
Fake or no, it isn't hard to believe.
Posted by carol in Philadelphia on Wed Aug 25, 2004 at 01:05 PM
Funny how all the Democrats have the highest IQ's and all the Republicans have very low ones. That's a big red flag. Of course, many people were so blinded by their bias against certain presidents that they felt those numbers HAD to be true. Says a lot about how people think.
Posted by Alex on Fri Oct 22, 2004 at 09:00 PM
That cartoon strip guy is always looking for ways to bash the Pres, not surprised he fell for this one... The only reason that certain people feel the need to coment on Bush's supposed IQ, or how he's not that great at public speaking, is that the man is for real. There's nothing else to pick on.
Posted by Jaime in Boston on Fri Jan 14, 2005 at 02:08 PM
I think it's REAL
...but just the part about George W. Bush... unless they were OVER-ESTIMATING his IQ!Posted by Kerry G. in Kitchener, ON [Canada] on Wed Feb 23, 2005 at 08:19 AM
Hey everyone,
this is an obvious fake. Notice how Cilinton's I.Q. is exactly twice that of Bush's. The study claims t run for 50 years but they put a president from before that time period on it. Not every president has written a book, and it is impossible to test IQ from writing and speeches. They used a bogus test... google it and you'll realize that it doesn't exist.
Posted by Brian in Denver on Thu May 26, 2005 at 01:55 PM
Funny how I would believe this true, if it wasn't for the fact that I live near Scranton and have never heard, seen, or noticed any mention of the place. If they had pictures, they would show a large college in the middle of the city, which would be The University of Scranton. Im looking for an e-mail address to see if I can crack them over the head with this information.
Posted by Nick on Fri Jun 17, 2005 at 09:30 PM
While this actual "study" and subsequent report may have been a hoax, it points out that sometimes fiction can actually be true. Based on George W's lack of coherent vocabulary, his inability to be truthful, his alcohol and drug use in the past and his willingness to believe in his own B.S., I would tend to think that an IQ of 91 is actually an over-estimation of what's going on between those ears of his!
Posted by PJ Strong in Washington, DC on Thu Jun 23, 2005 at 07:17 AM
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