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Posted: 02 August 2008 06:18 PM   [ Ignore ]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7514740.stm

The minefield of medical morals

Hardly a week goes by without a medical ethics dilemma appearing in the news.

Occasionally, on the screen or in print, a “medical ethicist” makes an appearance.

But what do we actually do?

Consider the following case:

        18-year old Susan wants to donate one of her kidneys to her father John. Without the transplant, John will soon die. He has end-stage kidney disease and the waiting list is several years long. His wife died from cancer two years ago.

        When performing routine blood tests, the medical team unexpectedly discovers that John is not in fact Susan’s biological father. Thankfully, the two are still a match, but should the clinicians disclose the non-paternity to Susan and her father, or should they keep it quiet and perform the transplant?

When I asked this question to several hundred doctors, patients and members of the public in Oxford, the results were consistent across each group: about two-thirds of respondents said the clinicians should withhold the information, while the remaining third believed the patients should be told.

In North America, many hospitals employ medical ethicists.

Faced with the case of Susan and her father, the doctor would contact the on-call ethicist for a consultation.

The ethicist would help the medical team identify the key ethical and legal issues.

He or she would clarify the facts of the case, look at similar past cases, find relevant guidelines, apply ethical principles, and help the clinicians make a morally robust decision.

When a similar case arose in Canada, the ethicist recommended telling the patients.

The daughter and father were shocked, but grateful to have been told.

The transplant went ahead as planned.

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In the UK, there are no full-time hospital ethicists.

The medical team might decide on their own, seek legal advice, or bring the case to a clinical ethics committee, if the hospital has one.

Although not all medical ethicists are alike, most divide their time between teaching ethics to doctors, nurses, and medical students, writing articles in academic journals, and sitting on committees which review hospital cases and applications for medical research.

The more outspoken ethicists may also do some media work.

About once a week, I speak to journalists about topical issues in medical ethics.

For instance: “Dr Sokol, what do you think about the case of Ashley X, the disabled girl whose parents stunted her growth to care for her more easily?“

Or: “What are your thoughts on Ms A, the teenage girl who told her doctor that she was abused by her father but begged the doctor to keep her secret?“

Or: “Should the parents of this severely disabled baby be allowed to insist on life-sustaining treatment, even if doctors think it’s futile?“

As we often only get one side of the story (for example, the parents’ views but not the clinicians’, who are instructed not to comment), I try to give a useful but cautious analysis.

Just as doctors don’t like to give medical advice without a proper examination of the patient, medical ethicists are reluctant to give their detailed opinions without a thorough examination of the facts.

Common cases

The cases that hit the headlines are dramatic, but relatively rare.

The vast majority of clinicians will not face life-or-death decisions about separating conjoined twins or giving high doses of oestrogen to stop the growth of a disabled child.

The common ethical cases are more mundane.

What should a GP do when confronted by a patient who asks for a sick certificate but who probably isn’t sick?

Should a junior doctor tell a patient that he has never performed a procedure before?

When you spend your days thinking about such cases, it can sometimes be difficult to remember that the dilemmas are not mere intellectual exercises, but events affecting real individuals.

By focusing so much on analysis and argument, on trying to make our reasoning as sharp as the surgeon’s scalpel, we can forget the human and emotional dimensions.

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Posted: 02 August 2008 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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If you where going to die, would you want to know, or not know and live out the rest of your days in bliss?

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Posted: 02 August 2008 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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The dynamics of the human physiology and that of their emotional needs are as different in character as they are necessary partners when health issues are at peril.  The answers to ANY of the questions being asked in the article should always focus on the tolerance or well being of the patient and NOT that of the personal ethics of the physician.  There are, for example, many patients who should never be told they have no hope of surviving, while other patients should be told…. a wrong decision could reap disastrous results rather than helping.  There are some (many) physicians who spit out such news because they themselves feel it’s their only ‘ethical’ choice.

Making these kinds of choice decisions would be best addressed by those who qualify in psychotherapy if at all possible.

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Posted: 02 August 2008 06:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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DJ you were posting as I was writing.  To answer your question, I would not want to know; that would ruin what time is left because my spirit would have already been extinguished and I’d just be waiting and watching the clock.  I try to live every day as if a tomorrow will not come and I try to keep important ideas and wishes always addressed so that there really should not be a library of lose ends or things put off for another time.  My affairs are in as good an order as is possible, including letting people important to me know my feelings for them.

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Posted: 02 August 2008 06:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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There are, for example, many patients who should never be told they have no hope of surviving, while other patients should be told…. a wrong decision could reap disastrous results rather than helping.

DJ you were posting as I was writing.

I read minds.

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Posted: 02 August 2008 06:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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DJ_Canada - 02 August 2008 06:57 PM

I read minds.

I pity you when you’re around us, then.

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Posted: 02 August 2008 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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The feeling is mutual.
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Posted: 02 August 2008 08:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I know they’re saying the kidney was the same tissue type, BUT, I would think that not not coming from a biological offspring, the kidney would carry with it some slightly increased chance of rejection than if it were a match from an actual offspring.  I say you should disclose for that reason alone.

Also, if I put myself in the place of either the guy or the purported daughter, I’d want the truth.

The “ignorance is bliss” argument has never worked for me.  If that were true, why not just drink or drug yourself into oblivion all the time?

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Posted: 03 August 2008 03:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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JoeDaJuggler - 02 August 2008 08:19 PM

I know they’re saying the kidney was the same tissue type, BUT, I would think that not not coming from a biological offspring, the kidney would carry with it some slightly increased chance of rejection than if it were a match from an actual offspring.  I say you should disclose for that reason alone.

Also, if I put myself in the place of either the guy or the purported daughter, I’d want the truth.

The “ignorance is bliss” argument has never worked for me.  If that were true, why not just drink or drug yourself into oblivion all the time?

Any tissue type not your own is considered alien by your body even if it was from an identical twin.  But this is also why donors are or have not in the past been identified to the recipient.  Medications must be taken for the rest of the recipient’s life to prevent rejection.

Joe, you are one of those patients who should always be given even facts that are not necessarily pertinent because you wish to know even the composition of the soil upon which you stand.  You appear to believe, or need to believe that you have more control over your life and all in it than you may actually have.  I believe any ethics committee would probably give you a running data record of every minute inflection noted even as you slept and every actual calorie consumed off your hospital tray minus those you did not consume.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 03:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I wonder if they checked records at the hospital to see if there was another girl of same race and similar appearance born the same day.  If so, you’d think they would want to check that out for a number of reasons.  Or did they assume Mom was unfaithful?

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Posted: 03 August 2008 04:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Bebe, I’m thinking the second idea.  By telling they now besmirch the memory of a mother and wife who is deceased and unable to defend herself or even say, ‘I sorry’ or ‘I didn’t know’, or ‘I was raped’ etc.  Irregardless, that memory should have been held with some level of honor especially since the tissue type of the daughter proved a match anyway.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 04:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I agree with what you say, Huli, about the mother not being able to defend herself.  However, there’s another side to this coin.  IF there were some sort of hospital mix up, then there’s a woman out there who may some day need her own biological information for medical reaons.  There also may have possibly been criminal activity that went beyond just this one case. 

Regardless of whether they told Dad and daughter, I think further investigation is warrented.

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