summerops77 - 23 May 2008 06:44 PM

Thanks for the free labour in correcting the post, I will get you guys to correct the rest of them!  Thanks for thinking your so smart!

It’s kind of common sense that if you’re trying to spread a message - especially if it’s in written form - that you would want it to be spelled correctly and use proper grammar and punctuation.  Otherwise people are going to think you’re not very smart and are not going to take your message seriously.

If you think we’re so smart because we corrected you on these simple and basic things* I would hate to see what your minimum requirements are for thinking someone is actually smart.  (Wait.  I think I already did by reading your posts.)

(And there’s an off chance that these mistakes are made because English is not a first language.  But that doesn’t excuse it.  No one reading the message would know that and would come to the same conclusions that you’re not smart and/or will not take your message seriously since you wrote it in (almost) English.)

*That’s not to say the crew here aren’t smart, but summerops77 is working off very little knowledge of us or how smart we are to be forming any kind of opinion about us.  Collectively or individually.

Aah!  You fixed it before I could say anything!  Bollocks!

Crafty Dragon - 23 May 2008 07:01 PM

Aah!  You fixed it before I could say anything!  Bollocks!

I was going to do it as well.

Well, you could always point out that summerops77 used “your” instead of “you’re” in his last post.

Well, yes, but I knew he was misspelling words…I just thought it was funny that you had…

Crafty Dragon - 23 May 2008 07:10 PM

Well, yes, but I knew he was misspelling words…I just thought it was funny that you had…

And did you notice that I didn’t close the parenthesis, too?

Nope, I was laughing about “rading” and missed it…lol

Tah - 23 May 2008 06:54 PM

summerops77 - 23 May 2008 06:44 PM

Thanks for the free labour in correcting the post, I will get you guys to correct the rest of them!  Thanks for thinking your so smart!

It’s kind of common sense that if you’re trying to spread a message - especially if it’s in written form - that you would want it to be spelled correctly and use proper grammar and punctuation.  Otherwise people are going to think you’re not very smart and are not going to take your message seriously.

If you think we’re so smart because we corrected you on these simple and basic things* I would hate to see what your minimum requirements are for thinking someone is actually smart.  (Wait.  I think I already did by reading your posts.)

(And there’s an off chance that these mistakes are made because English is not a first language.  But that doesn’t excuse it.  No one reading the message would know that and would come to the same conclusions that you’re not smart and/or will not take your message seriously since you wrote it in (almost) English.)

*That’s not to say the crew here aren’t smart, but summerops77 is working off very little knowledge of us or how smart we are to be forming any kind of opinion about us.  Collectively or individually.

That is a great subject, because the definition of ‘smart’ is a loose one.  Someone can have high analytical skills, and poor language skills, or be street smart, but a system idiot.  A good case in point is the book Rich Dad Poor Dad, a comparison between two individuals with different knowledge sets.  The original point of the posting is to wake people up from the thought that they know what is going on, or have a good understanding of an issue, when possibly they know little to nothing about it, or the world that is around them (as it is being presented to them in the media spin).

Here are some excellent examples.

The people over at CERN - okay we are talking about some of the ‘smartest’ individuals on the planet, are busy building their super-collider.  However if you actually look around a felllow named Harold D Aspden completely shreds their experiment and shows that what they are not doing their homework first, and they are actually in many respects ignoring their own science as put forth by the standard model..

Check out his research at : http://www.aspden.org/

He has approached the scientific body with his research the answer was silence.

Lets take another one - lets shred our understanding of our universe completely with a paper written 97 years ago, by Charles Brush, the inventor of the Dynamo.  Like what he wrote or not, his inventions are in use today, and his theorums are used by NASA in the accepted notion that no space body in deep space can ever reach absolute zero. 

Check out his writing for yourself - he clearly shows that gravity has to be a push, contrary to the (everyone thinks it is a pull).

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3098582/Kinetic-Theory-of-Gravitation

I do not profess to ‘spell well’ and make no attempt at it - why? Because for me it is knowledge triage.  It would be good to learn this skillset - however there are far more important areas of study to be learning right now, and which one will have the greatest impact? The real objective is get people focusing past themselves and the infighting and manipulation that we do to ourselves on a consistent basis, and instead try and bring about the necessary changes that our society needs to advance past the current deplorable levels of manipulation and corruption that we exist in. Yes that is a run-on sentence thank you.

However in order to accomplish this, we have to learn to think crictically, not to seek to try to be right in anything, but to acceptably also seek to be wrong. Why? Because (and I know that Because should never be used to start a sentence - but thanks anyways) when we know where we are wrong, we can then focus our energies on what is right. 

The Power of the Paradox

Is this then the secret of it all, let the fool confound the wise, let the weak say I am strong, let us seek to assume less to know more, let those who are rich say I am poor?  For me it is a matter of waking people up everywhere to different and varied knowledge sets, to not even attempt to necessarily be correct in those knowledge sets but to put them forth for testing and challenge.  Wasn’t it Socrates who postulated that you should welcome the challenge against your belief system (or in this case knowledge set) as if it can stand up to scrutiny and testing it is strengthened, reinforced and so forth.

This posting has not been spell checked or tested for grammatical errors. If you would like to correct my posting please by all means feel free to spend your time and energy doing so:

summerops77 - 25 May 2008 08:21 AM

That is a great subject, because the definition of ‘smart’ is a loose one.  Someone can have high analytical skills, and poor language skills, or be street smart, but a system idiot.

Very true.

The original point of the posting is to wake people up from the thought that they know what is going on, or have a good understanding of an issue, when possibly they know little to nothing about it, or the world that is around them (as it is being presented to them in the media spin).

Which, again, people are not going to take seriously if you can not communicate that clearly and properly.  And you can clearly see how people here are not taking your message seriously because of your spelling and grammar by the response you got in this thread.

I do not profess to ‘spell well’ and make no attempt at it - why? Because for me it is knowledge triage.  It would be good to learn this skillset - however there are far more important areas of study to be learning right now, and which one will have the greatest impact?

I guess it’s a good thing that I learned proper spelling and grammar a loooooong time ago when I was in school and was supposed to be learning it.  That means I don’t have to learn the skillset now so that I can effectively communicate with people and have them take me seriously when I try to communicate a serious (to me) issue.

The real objective is get people focusing past themselves and the infighting and manipulation that we do to ourselves on a consistent basis, and instead try and bring about the necessary changes that our society needs to advance past the current deplorable levels of manipulation and corruption that we exist in. Yes that is a run-on sentence thank you.

Glad you have your personal priorities straight.  But, again, you’re going to have a hard time convincing anyone (at least around here) of anything if you can not communicate your ideas properly, clearly and concisely.  (Though you do a heck of a lot better at it than some other folks we’ve had - and have - around here.)

However in order to accomplish this, we have to learn to think crictically, not to seek to try to be right in anything, but to acceptably also seek to be wrong. Why? Because (and I know that Because should never be used to start a sentence - but thanks anyways) when we know where we are wrong, we can then focus our energies on what is right.

Maybe because we’re offering constructive criticism?  Maybe we would rather do so in a somewhat humorous way rather than come right out and be rude about it?  Maybe we think this message may be worth spreading but think it should be properly written in order to be communicated effectively?  Maybe we don’t care a lick about your message but think it should be properly written in order to be communicated effectively?  Maybe everyone has their own, personal reason for replying and responding the way they do?

This posting has not been spell checked or tested for grammatical errors. If you would like to correct my posting please by all means feel free to spend your time and energy doing so:

Whatever makes you happy.  As a general rule I don’t go around correcting people’s grammar and spelling in their posts.  Sometimes I do (or just point it out) because of the humor involved in it.  In your case, in reference to your first post, it was done because you presented that as “your message” that you wanted mass-produced and spread throughout civilized society to get people to wake up.  I (and the others) was pointing out obvious and glaring errors that detracted from your message and should be fixed before trying to take your message to the masses.

And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, if you can’t spell words correctly, use words correctly and write with the basics of grammar for the language you’re using your message is not going to be taken seriously.  If you can’t accept (and correct) that then you will never make the difference you hope to make.

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Nice try, dear.