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10 books that screwed up the world
Posted: 17 May 2008 11:25 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Posted: 18 May 2008 08:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Thats nice..."The ends justify th means!!"-I saw that in one of their lists smile

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Posted: 18 May 2008 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I would have added the bible to that list.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 12:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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No, the Bible is a book that tells people to do good things and help folk out. Mein Kampf is a book that tells people how to hate. As are most of the rest of them. Not it’s fault if people use it as a reason to kill each other and go against everything the Bible actually tells you to do.

Don’t go assosciating the religion with the bad stuff done in the religion’s name.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 03:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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White Hammer by Van Der Graaf Generator

In the year 1486 the Malleus first appeared,
designed to kill all witchcraft and end the papal fears:
prescribing tortures to kill the Black Arts;
and the Hammer struck hard.

Malleus Maleficarum slaughtered and tortured
all those under suspicion, as the Inquisistion ordered
- burning black hearts and innocents alike,
killing the mad;
such was the power the Hammer had.

Though Hexenhammer was intended to slay only evil,
fear and anger against magic overspilled:
they also killed those of the White.

So for two centuries and more they tried to slay
both the Black and the White Arts -
but spirits override pain.
For every one that the torture took,
two were hid secure,
and so the craft, yes, it endured.

Love and hate lived on in the face of fear,
Hexenhammer’s force died,
and the real power became clear.

White Hammer no more is beaten;
now it begins to beat,
and the Grey, once oppressor,
now, at good hands, faces defeat.
And the Black, too, shall bow down
to the power above;
Black hate beats Grey
but surpreme is
the White Hammer of Love.

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Posted: 18 May 2008 06:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Nothing by L. Ron Hubbard on the list?

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Posted: 18 May 2008 06:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Meh.. Give ‘em time, Tah.

But I agree with Ren. Not a religious sort mysef, but if we lived by the ideas put down in the bible, we’d all be peace-loving hippy flower children who attend church regularly. It’s not a bad book, but unfortunately it’s long and complex enough that folks are able to use it to argue any point they choose to make, including those exactly opposite what they should be.

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Posted: 19 May 2008 03:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Isn’t that exactly what you are doing though?

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Posted: 19 May 2008 04:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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David B. - 19 May 2008 03:51 AM

Isn’t that exactly what you are doing though?

Interpreting the Bible to say things?

No, it’s not interpreting when you’re looking at the bits that say “Love thy neighbour”. When you use it to justify lynching Black people, that’s interpreting it wrong.

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Posted: 19 May 2008 04:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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And the bit about stoning to death a woman on her father’s doorstep if she turns out not be be a virgin on her wedding night?

Picking the bits you agree with and saying “what a good book it is”, while claiming the rest doesn’t mean what it says or no longer applies is as much an interpretation as any other.

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Posted: 19 May 2008 04:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Does that bit happen in the New Testament? No, it doesn’t.

If there’s a conflict between the two, the New Testament overrides everything in the Old Testament. Your argument falls kind of flat when you pick bits from the part of the book that is negated by the “Let he who is without sin” stuff of the second half. If the Bible didn’t have the New Testament in it, it wouldn’t be too nice a book. But it does and all it goes on about is being a good person.

Anyone picking stuff out the Old Testament isn’t taking the overall message away from the book.

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Posted: 19 May 2008 04:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Romans.

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