OK Tah, thanks. 

I’m still not sure what the tests are trying ot prove.  It makes you limber?  I could think of some uses that for that, but the thread also mentions a high price and again maybe I overlooked it, but I don’t see specifically how much. 

16 oz. of Dasani is about $1.09.  I wouldn’t pay more than that.

I seem to recall a mention of $1.99 for a bottle of Perfect Water.  But I don’t know a size/volume of that.  And the price may (obviously) vary depending on your supplier and location.

Bebelicious - 13 April 2008 01:00 PM

16 oz. of Dasani is about $1.09.  I wouldn’t pay more than that.

That isn’t even sold here any more after this...

Dasani was launched in the USA in 1999 as a bottled, purified water, and had become a huge success there. Taking that same formula and repeating it for the UK market must have looked like a breeze, but that wasn’t quite how it turned out.

Unlike most of the bottled water sold in British petrol stations and supermarkets Dasani hadn’t come from alpine glaciers or trickled out of a precious natural spring - it had come out of the local tap. True, the company put it through a purification process and added mineral salts, but the source was still tap water.

*snip*

Despite the pages of negative press coverage, Coke persisted with Dasani. Executives protested that they had been misunderstood and that the drink was not just tap water but in fact the result of a highly sophisticated process to create the purest drinking water you can get. As far as Coke were concerned, Dasani was a lifestyle drink, a drink you would want to be seen with, the source was all but irrelevant.

Then on Thursday 18 March there was even worse news.

Something had gone wrong at the Dasani factory and a bad batch of minerals had contaminated the water production with a potentially carcinogenic bromate. Coke admitted defeat. Immediately they withdrew all 500,000 bottles of Dasani in circulation. In just five weeks, Dasani had come and gone, arguably providing more in terms of entertainment than refreshment.

Gotta like it when a plan comes together.  I suspect they were the victims of some faulty market research there.

A lot of the bottled water here originally comes from the tap and it’s not a big secret.  It’s just filtered water with added minerals and nobody seems to think they’re getting ripped off.  For a couple of years it was just plain trendy to be seen with a water bottle—any water bottle as opposed to a cup or something.  Go figure.  Our local water company actually bottles it’s own tap water(yep, same stuff you get from the faucett) and gives it out at hot outdoor summer events for free. 

Now days the big thing is protein water which seems to be quite expensive.

Bebelicious - 14 April 2008 02:55 AM

Now days the big thing is protein water which seems to be quite expensive.

Well of course! Do you now how hard you have to squeeze proteins to get the water out?

Personally, I rather like the caffinated waters. Hard to find nowadays, but *damn* does the stuff make for a great breakfast drink when you use it to reconstitute canned Orange Juice.

What I want to know about this whole ‘super’ water stuff is this Where is their documentation that the stuff is *safe*. If it has that dramatic an effect on a human body, where is the evidence that it won’t cause thyroid tumors? What about the next generation? Does it cause birth defects? The stuff certainly sounds like it’s a more potent drug than many of the things that require prescriptions out there. Perhaps we should get the FDC to examine this?

They’re so quick to ‘prove’ its benefits, while at the same time refusing to prove it doesn’t have any problems. Methamphetamines have some *great* benefits, but the side effect suck rocks.

I prefer my caffeinated water hot, with the optional coffee flavouring, though caffeinated OJ is a nice idea.

Since we’ve mainly concentrated on asking for proof that Perfect Water is in any way different to ordinary water, it’s true that we’ve not really discussed safety much.

Water is not, usually, considered a harmful substance requiring FDA/FSA approval, whether used as an additive or sold as a product in itself. Certainly there are standards as to what the water can contain, but beyond a minimum purity requirement water is treated as intrinsically safe.

Perfect Water claim that their water has unique properties, that it is different from ordinary water both in physical and chemical nature, and most importantly, that it is biologically active in a way ordinary water isn’t.

So not only is it up to them to prove those claims, but having done so it is up to them to prove that this physically, chemically and biologically novel product is not harmful to humans. In the US, this requires they go through a pre-application process with the FDA and CFSAN, formally apply with data on the chemistry, toxicology (from animal studies), estimated consumption, environmental effects and health implications.

Of course, if they were to maintain that Perfect Water had medicinal benefits, it would be treated as a drug rather than a food, which would mean a considerably more stringent process comes into play, involving not less than three properly controlled and conducted human studies.

Basically, the only way anyone could legally sell Perfect Water in the US or Europe is if it didn’t do any of the things they claim.

So it’s either fraudulent or unlicensed.

David B. - 14 April 2008 04:41 AM

Basically, the only way anyone could legally sell Perfect Water in the US or Europe is if it didn’t do any of the things they claim.

So it’s either fraudulent or unlicensed.

Woohoo!

Yeah, I just registered but I’ve lurked around here for quite a spell and am finally moved to chime in.

Perfect Water is total baloney based on my following observations:
1) I’ve seen chiropractors use “Tip tests” and the like in demonstrations against sugar or whatever new gadget they want to poke you with.
2) ANY LICENSED HAIRDRESSER knows that when you add more than 1 molecule of oxygen to two molecules of hydrogen, you get peroxide. PERIOD.
3) All the MLM type mumbo jumbo I observed as my parents dragged me to seminars to attract recruits when I was a kid in the 70’s including but not limited to Shaklee, Home Interiors, Meadow Fresh, Tupperware, and Amway.
Please include seminars for all the possibly non-mlm creepy 70’s health fads such as Iridology, The Feingold Diet, Scardsdale Diet, and blah blah and on we go.

Some things never change and neither does the human being’s power of suggestion, I’ve seen it over and over since I was a toddler.
My parents’ case of over-suggestibility is possibly the root of my scepticism, blame them. That and not being stupid.

I was at a “party” I got invited to recently that turned out to be Home & Garden, someone asked if it was an MLM—the reply? “Why no, it’s a Generational!“
I almost pissed myself laughing.

Also….I don’t care how you package it, I will never ever drink peroxide. If you do drink peroxide, you are just dumb.
If it isn’t peroxide, who is fibbing? Hmmm.