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Yes, I’ve tried Perfect Water from Quixtar / Amway
Posted: 26 July 2008 07:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 342 ]
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Uft.. Umm. Suzie? Just a warning: Never use your email addr as your forum name, anywhere.. It results in hideous amounts of spam as webspider programs find it and report back…

Now, if it’s NOT your email, and is in fact, that of someone you don’t like much…

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Posted: 01 August 2008 07:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 343 ]
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cool smirk  sometimes i wander why the world is so screwed up, and then i come in here and see so many people that seem to think the world owes them everything and everyone is stupid for tring to make someting of there lives. I own 3 diffrent businesses in ohio, all of which are doing rather well compared to many businesses in the world today, with that being said, I’m also A “Quixtar IBO”- making $3128.62 last month just from that. When I hear people that are voicing uninformed opinions on our products or our IBOs it makes me sick. You “smart” people need to take a look at where you are, and understand that not everyone is lazy and wants to put everyting and everyone down because they are dumb and/or uninformed on the topics! If you have tried being a IBO, and didn’t make it. well that sure dosen’t mean it won’t work. you obviously didn’t do the work required to make the business work! the federal trade commision says it will and does work and is a fair and legal business model! And so does the BBB. And as far as the products go, everyone is diffrent, not all products are going to work/feel/taste the same to everyone.,the only reason people start makeing these uninformed remarks is that they don’t understand business/ business advertising or product facts and testing, and they are not willing to try to understand the logic behind anything other than what they want to know or beleave or what they “searched” on the internet and/or what other people like them claim about products or quixtar IBOs. befor you start typing and trying to think of some lame comeback, i think you need to look at the facts!  what are you doing to help your future? Are you positive that your job will always be there? in today’s world most likely not! don’t give up on people or put them or what they are doing down because they are tring to make something of their lives and you don’t understand the facts, or just because of what you “researched” on the internet or what people have told you, take a look at the business and understand the facts first! Sure, everyone has the right to an opinion, but it’s easy to see who knows the facts and who dosen’t, the uninformed people post things that seem a little ....well..stupid because they have too much time and are afraid to go out and do something productive with their lives so they can change where they are in life, instead of working paycheck to paycheck why don’t you go out and try to change something to make a diffrence?................

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Posted: 01 August 2008 07:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 344 ]
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winner01 - 01 August 2008 07:25 PM

cool smirk  sometimes i wander why the world is so screwed up, and then i come in here and see so many people that seem to think the world owes them everything and everyone is stupid for tring to make someting of there lives. I own 3 diffrent businesses in ohio, all of which are doing rather well compared to many businesses in the world today, with that being said, I’m also A “Quixtar IBO”- making $3128.62 last month just from that. When I hear people that are voicing uninformed opinions on our products or our IBOs it makes me sick. You “smart” people need to take a look at where you are, and understand that not everyone is lazy and wants to put everyting and everyone down because they are dumb and/or uninformed on the topics! If you have tried being a IBO, and didn’t make it. well that sure dosen’t mean it won’t work. you obviously didn’t do the work required to make the business work! the federal trade commision says it will and does work and is a fair and legal business model! And so does the BBB. And as far as the products go, everyone is diffrent, not all products are going to work/feel/taste the same to everyone.,the only reason people start makeing these uninformed remarks is that they don’t understand business/ business advertising or product facts and testing, and they are not willing to try to understand the logic behind anything other than what they want to know or beleave or what they “searched” on the internet and/or what other people like them claim about products or quixtar IBOs. befor you start typing and trying to think of some lame comeback, i think you need to look at the facts!  what are you doing to help your future? Are you positive that your job will always be there? in today’s world most likely not! don’t give up on people or put them or what they are doing down because they are tring to make something of their lives and you don’t understand the facts, or just because of what you “researched” on the internet or what people have told you, take a look at the business and understand the facts first! Sure, everyone has the right to an opinion, but it’s easy to see who knows the facts and who dosen’t, the uninformed people post things that seem a little ....well..stupid because they have too much time and are afraid to go out and do something productive with their lives so they can change where they are in life, instead of working paycheck to paycheck why don’t you go out and try to change something to make a diffrence?................

So basically, your contribution to this conversation is a generalisation that anybody who doesn’t think that Perfect Water is wonderful is stuck in a rut in a mediocre, soon to be terminated job?  hmmm

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Posted: 01 August 2008 08:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 345 ]
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At least we know how to use paragraph breaks, punctuation, and the occasional capital letter..

Ok, cheap shot, I know, but he *did* ask for a lame comeback!

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Posted: 01 August 2008 08:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 346 ]
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I see a lot of vowels.
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Posted: 02 August 2008 02:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 347 ]
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He is unaware that there are many of us work at real jobs that are personally fullfilling and pay enough that we don’t live from paycheck to paycheck. 

I’ve noticed that most of these pro-perfect water posters equate “success” with having more money than you know what to do with. That’s sad.

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Posted: 03 August 2008 07:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 348 ]
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it’s called living with a purpose. It’s not at all about the money, it’s just the fact that most(not everyone) seem to want to post negitive things about the people and products that they market. If you are happy working for someone elses dreams at your job thats fine, but people need to think about what they are posting befor they post it. By posting stupid remarks you are hurting what many people see as a dream or goal. Just because you are happy where you are in life dosen’t mean you need to waste you energy looking down on everyone else. If you don’t like a product DONT USE IT!! someone else will.      you people need to grow up!

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Posted: 03 August 2008 07:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 349 ]
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but people need to think about what they are posting befor they post it. By posting stupid remarks you are hurting what many people see as a dream or goal.

As opposed as your ranting?

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Posted: 04 August 2008 01:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 350 ]
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I see.. so the problem isn’t that you are trying to sell overpriced water to the gullible with the promise of miracles, but that we are just all black-hearted, mean people who spend all our time griping about how stupid things are, correct?

Your argument is that if we don’t like somthing that we should not use it. I don’t think we need to be told that, honestly. However we will also caution our friends about our fears and concerns about a given product. We will also tell our friends about things we like and trust. After all, this is how we get things like warning labels, product recalls, an word-of-mouth advertising happen. It is also how we to protect our more gullible friends from people like you.

We feel this product is pure hogwash, suitable for nothing more than basic hydration needs, and that any of its amazing claims are that-which-has-passed-through-a-bull. We are unlikely to change our minds, no matter how much you whine about it being unfair of us to be so judgemental. The criteria for us to change our minds is the same as it is for a great deal of the things on this forum:

We Want Proof. Provide us with a properly-conducted, unbiased third-party double-blind test.

No in-house studies, or anecdotal evidence need apply. If your product is as amazing as you claim, it should have no difficulty whatsoever passing such tests. If it works no better than the control/placebo, then you are backing the wrong horse. Many such products make great claims but use liberal amounds of ‘weasel words’ to avoid the legal ramifications of having a product that does nothing.

Until you get us the proof we desire, stop whining, because it’s not helping your case any.

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Posted: 04 August 2008 02:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 351 ]
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winner01 - 03 August 2008 07:11 PM

it’s called living with a purpose. It’s not at all about the money, it’s just the fact that most(not everyone) seem to want to post negitive things about the people and products that they market. If you are happy working for someone elses dreams at your job thats fine, but people need to think about what they are posting befor they post it. By posting stupid remarks you are hurting what many people see as a dream or goal. Just because you are happy where you are in life dosen’t mean you need to waste you energy looking down on everyone else. If you don’t like a product DONT USE IT!! someone else will.  you people need to grow up!

* Makes no sense.  Must be one of those Chewbacca defenses Joe was explaining to me!


* Are you the inventor of PW?  Because if not, it’s not your dream.  And how many times to they bring up the word “dream” in the recruiting and training pitch, because you guys use it like robots.  And selling bottled water seems a whole hell of a lot more boring and unfullfilling than my job, so I gotta wonder whose making judgements. 

I don’t believe they are wasting energy by trying to warn people about misleading sales pitches and tactics.  So far everyone who has come here who doesn’t sell the stuff says that the tests are trickery. 

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Posted: 04 August 2008 06:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 352 ]
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cool smirk  sometimes i wander why the world is so screwed up, and then i come in here and see so many people that seem to think the world owes them everything and everyone is stupid for tring to make someting of there lives. (SNIP)blah, blah, blah….............

So basically, your contribution to this conversation is a generalisation that anybody who doesn’t think that Perfect Water is wonderful is stuck in a rut in a mediocre, soon to be terminated job?  hmmm

I remember the days (daze) I was in when I went through my experiment with Amway - my sponsor was in no position to aid me in the ways I needed to be helped - nor did their sponsor help me out, especially near the end…. and I ended up filing for bankruptcy after giving it a go for 3 years (and working two other jobs) without sponsoring a single person - I was going to conferences… spending money I didn’t have to try to get what I couldn’t have and still spouting the corporate line just like this mental zombie… right up until the point where I lost my house and possessions to my creditors. 

...making $3128.62 last month just from that ...

...and what were your expenses?

/filed for losses all three years I was “in the business” (they were REAL losses).
//still a good friend to my sponsor (who is no longer involved either)
///still likes the dish soap (No, I still can’t afford it)
//frequents FARK too much
/Such a Beautiful lie to believe in

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