You’re both wrong of course. Captain James Cook discovered water when he first came sailing around the Australian coast in the late 1780’s. The local Aborigines called it ‘Aichtoohoo’ and had been using it for centuries. Cook decided that the rest of the world could greatly benefit from this marvellous discovery and stoppered a bottle of it to be sent back to England on the next convict express.

Captain Cook was the son of (guess) a Scotsman moved to Yorkshire.

And if you’re from Yorkshire you’re not really human. You’re more like a hobbit.

Tah,
Thanks for the forum lesson.  You don’t have to read very far to realize I’m not a regular poster. (that’s probably not the right term)

If Perfect Water was claiming to do a certain thing, and I asked for people to either back up those claims or dispell them with their experiences, wouldn’t that go under the category of “Hoaxes”???  Am I not trying to prove or disprove what has claimed to be a hoaxe?

Boo,
My logic is this:  Let’s hear from people who have tried the product.  You’re right there was 4 pages of people who could neither back up or disprove the claims.

Out of those 4 pages did anybody say: “I tried it and it’s crap” No!!!!
Only people saying: I read about it and it’s not true.
Or people saying I’m gonna be able to sell it in a month and it is true!

Ok, let’s talk logic:  A thread asking about a product that isn’t available to the public yet, then a bunch of people posting about said product (that isn’t available yet) then the thread being closed before the product is available.

In retrospect… I have no problem with speculations on a new product that is not yet released.  Whether it’s the next playstation or the next version of windows, hey lets’ talk about it.  But at least keep the discussion open.

If somebody breaks the forum rules then delete their post and make them inactive. (or whatever is done to forum outlaws)

But to close a thread as if the matter was settled before it ever is tested by the public seems a little one-sided.

YesImAnIBO - 27 March 2008 03:06 PM

Out of those 4 pages did anybody say: “I tried it and it’s crap” No!!!!
Only people saying: I read about it and it’s not true.
Or people saying I’m gonna be able to sell it in a month and it is true!

Ok, let’s talk logic:  A thread asking about a product that isn’t available to the public yet, then a bunch of people posting about said product (that isn’t available yet) then the thread being closed before the product is available.

It doesn’t matter if people tried it and reported back what they thought of it.  We were discussing the claims that they made on their website that were either meaningless or just wrong.  Nobody was looking for peoples’ opinions, instead we were looking for actual facts and falsehoods.

Look at it this way:  suppose I told you that I had a marvelous new product, made from the milk of the giant cetacean the blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus) that I personally gathered from the vast herds of them roaming the upper slopes of Mount Blanc (the tallest mountain in all of Poland), and that my wonderful new product would energise you and use the power of magnetism to flush fat from your body.  Now, would you need peoples’ opinions and testimonials to know that there was something wrong about the claims I was making about my product?

Opinions and testimonials can at best tell you only about what a product does.  The don’t tell you anything about what a product is, or how its made.

In retrospect… I have no problem with speculations on a new product that is not yet released.  Whether it’s the next playstation or the next version of windows, hey lets’ talk about it.  But at least keep the discussion open.

The discussion had ended, though.  All that was left were salespeople trying to make a fast buck.  They weren’t actually there to discuss anything.  That thread wasn’t of any more use concerning the reason it was created.  Everybody there had said what they wanted to say, the person who started the thread had the information they wanted.  He wanted to know if there was something fishy about the product’s website, and he learned that there was.  So why leave the thread open for every salesperson surfing the Internet to advertise on?

But to close a thread as if the matter was settled before it ever is tested by the public seems a little one-sided.

The matter was settled.  It wasn’t a discussion of what public testing does, so there was no need to wait for any testimonials.  If there is anything new happening in the world of Perfect Water, then somebody can always start up a new thread discussing it.

YesImAnIBO - 27 March 2008 03:06 PM

Tah,
Thanks for the forum lesson.  You don’t have to read very far to realize I’m not a regular poster. (that’s probably not the right term)

You’re welcome.  And ‘poster’ is a good term.

If Perfect Water was claiming to do a certain thing, and I asked for people to either back up those claims or dispell them with their experiences, wouldn’t that go under the category of “Hoaxes”???  Am I not trying to prove or disprove what has claimed to be a hoaxe?

I guess that would depend on your point of view.  I would think that someone working for the company and (soon?) trying to sell the product wouldn’t want to start a discussion about it in a forum meant for hoaxes.  As far as I’m concerned (and probably most of the people here) this is a fine forum for it.  Most people are going to see “Perfect Water” filed under “Hoaxes” and get enough of a message right there.  If I was a salesman it’s not a stigma I would want on my product.

As for the rest of your post, Accipiter has already covered that pretty well.  The discussion was not about how well the water works.  The discussion was about the company and the claims they are making about the poduct.  Those claims, as posted on their website, were broken down and debunked (a main objective of this site and forum, believe it or not!).

And since the conversation had reached a conclusion there was no reason to leave it open.  It would be more of a hassle to deal with every salesperson coming in and posting.

And if someone wants to come in and start a thread about how the water actually performs they are more than welcome to.  Oh, wait.  You already did.  And as long as the conversation stays on track and we don’t get a parade of salespeople through here trying to sell it, but only want to post their experiences with it this thread should be fine to stay open.  (I won’t promise that, though.  The forum owner and administrators may have other thoughts on the matter and I am only one moderator of a larger team.)

Hope you realize that tap water is usually better than bottled water. This is because the purification process often removes metals and other salts that your body needs replenished.
What is often considered the best water in the U.S. is natural spring water in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
It is chilled to a nice 140 degrees f. so people can bottle it and take it home for free

Jim65 - 27 March 2008 05:29 PM

Hope you realize that tap water is usually better than bottled water. This is because the purification process often removes metals and other salts that your body needs replenished.
What is often considered the best water in the U.S. is natural spring water in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
It is chilled to a nice 140 degrees f. so people can bottle it and take it home for free

Ah, but you’re overlooking the fact that this bottled water is pure, filtered water.  Nothing but water, with all the extra stuff removed.  Free from any additives, so that you just get nothing but that smooth watery taste and the effect of pure water.

Oh, yes, and it’s also water enhanced with all sorts of extra additives, so as to keep it from having nothing but the effect of pure water.

It’s both at the same time, according to them.  See, it’s magic water.  Yup.

I think you are all wrong.  Bobby the Green, the famous viking, invented water in 1403 when his still blew up and his ale evaporated, recollected on the straw of his thatched hut and inadvertantly dripped into his ale cup.  He drank it and said, Aye! THAT’s WATER!!  (Then he promptly spit it out and went pillaging for ale....)

Seriously thought. I believe that anyone who wants to try out the ‘tests’ for perfect water, should do a double blind study.  It goes like this.  Prepare two (or more) glasses of water.  Get two (or More) volunteers.  in the glasses, put both ‘perfect water’ and any other bottled water.  Have the person(s) try the tests with perfect water first, then the other water. or vice versa.  Then have them try the other water. 

I believe that you will find that ANY water tested in this way will seem like perfect empowered water!  (That’s because the flex tests and twist tests are bar tricks.  Kinda like someone ‘spotting you’ at weight lifting putting negligible pressure against the bar, you think it will work and it does!)

So BE CAREFUL!!! You already drink Perfect Water!!  Don’t pay through the nose for a trick!

(...sits back and rests from his long indoctrination sojourn...)

Accipiter - 27 March 2008 05:38 PM

Jim65 - 27 March 2008 05:29 PM

Hope you realize that tap water is usually better than bottled water. This is because the purification process often removes metals and other salts that your body needs replenished.
What is often considered the best water in the U.S. is natural spring water in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
It is chilled to a nice 140 degrees f. so people can bottle it and take it home for free

Ah, but you’re overlooking the fact that this bottled water is pure, filtered water.  Nothing but water, with all the extra stuff removed.  Free from any additives, so that you just get nothing but that smooth watery taste and the effect of pure water.

Oh, yes, and it’s also water enhanced with all sorts of extra additives, so as to keep it from having nothing but the effect of pure water.

It’s both at the same time, according to them.  See, it’s magic water.  Yup.

Don’t forget the pinch of sodium (SALT), Accipiter!  That way the water stays Ionized.  (...But if it has salt and minerals......how...is...it....pure?)

Pure water is nasty.