david ...continuation

8) Let’s see, three personal testimonies (hearsay, not confirmation) and a link to the Supreme Court decision that (a) contradicts your earlier assertions about Roxas’ find and the award against Imelda Marcos, and (b) mentions the only physical evidence of any find, anywhere, a brass-plated statue of a buddha. No gold, diamonds, or even the vault described by Roxas has ever been discovered.
  answer: Despite of your comments…I wonder why the Hawaii Supreme Court still awarded $20B + to Roxas heirs….do you think you are more legally expert than Hawaii Supreme Court Justices?....I DON’T THINK SO….or maybe the american justice system stinks?...what do you think?

Boo,
I tried to attach picture of gold bars ( 100+ pcs 6 kilos, dozen of 75 kilos gold bars, recovered by other treasure group)...howver it can’t be attached bcoz the attachment can only provide for 65 kb…....tsk,tsk,tsk…am sure this sample picture if attched successfully could make David…drool….and am sure his endless no treasure proof arguments would be SHATTERED easily…he,he,he…....

David,

Sorry, I can’t attach my picture…anyway…i will try some ways how to attach this picture here.

It should have shown a big volume treasure of WW2 underground treasure chamber….4,000 pcs gold coin bags, 8,000 pcs gold bars (right end corner), hundreds of boxes containing money/bank notes, cert, precious valuables, etc….the treasure chamber is 210 feet long and 74 feet wide…..this is just an undeniable sample picture proof that during WW2 (Nazi and japanese) had massive looting of every country that they invade and they usually hide it in deep underground tunnel ....tsk,tsk,tsk this simple picture could have easilySHATTERED your arguments about “non-existent WW2 war Loot/treasure”...he,he,he…

But, yet, you can’t attach it. Oh woe. It must be too awesome for our simple forum. Lamentations.

Dumagat - 18 May 2008 07:59 PM

Do you have anything other than bare assertions to make?

  Answer: Relllaaaxxx…take it easy….slowly i will reveal the proofs and secret of japs treasure here, okey?????? BTW, Are you in a hurry or something????? he,he,he…

No, I’m just a “put up or shut up kind of guy”. Apparently you won’t “put up” so…

Claiming you have proof that you will not show is not fact, just another assertion.
Since you are not willing to show us your ‘proof’, what reason have we to believe such a proof exists?

  Answer: Of course, i can slowly show some proofs…am just testing your patience….

Well the second part of that sentence is certainly true.

As has already been pointed out, you claimed the Japanese did not fight in WW1, they did

    Answer: Read carefully my post, I have said that the japs stages war on sakhalin island against russian….but did not join ww1 in invading the war in almost whole asia….they did it in WW2, oks? read history books maaan…

Yes, you said:

Dumagat - 14 May 2008 07:15 PM

FYI: Of course, Japan foresight was 20 years advance….according to Maj. Gen. Inami Murakami (my filipino bestfriend grandpa), the Emperor of Japan was eager to join WW1 but controled himself bcoz he was NOT prepared for WW1, thats why they only fight with the Russians in Sakhalin Islands…

This is incorrect (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_during_World_War_I).

if the americans were prepared…then why the heck they caught by surprise attack on pearl harbor by the japanese?

You said the Americans did not know of the Japanese military build up, they did. Knowing that someone is preparing for war and knowing when and where it will start are different things.

Rogelio was tortured, and his brother testimony was in duress….do you expect his brother will testify during Marcos or Cory time?....c’mon…think it over.
  Do you think the japanese will bring a heavy lead budha into Philiipines?...think maan….The original golden budha had retractable head as shown on picture…head can be separated from the body bcoz the Budha inside body contain precious stones (headline on newspaper)...while the confiscated Budha that was shown in court had NO detachable head…meaning Marcos changed it…oks? If you are a Dictator, you control the military, politician, judiciary…you can suppress every evidence….we know it bcoz we live here…you don’t….

Roxas’ account is still different from yours, as are the facts of the Hawaii case arising from it. If you can’t even get the details of the most high-profile Yamashita treasure ‘find’ to date right, what credibility can the rest of your ‘facts’ have?

That the buddha was made of gold and had a detachable head full of diamonds has never been confirmed. Jose Roxas continues to insist that no ‘golden buddha’ was found by his brother, he has repeated this claim several times to journalists and interviewers at least as late as July last year. What evidence do you have that all these statements have been made under duress?

And given that the Philippines were predominantly Buddhist from the 7th to the 11th centuries, why is it surprising that Buddhist iconography should turn up from time to time? In fact a genuine golden Buddha was unearthed there in 1917. Short of crediting them with time-travel, I think we can be fairly sure the Japanese did not bury that.

Have you talk personally to Dizon? Did he actually had extensive treasure research…I GUESS NOT.  Dizon is just a gov’t employee based his treasure info on biased newspaper or cover up propaganda only….He have NO actual treasure hunting experience or knowledge whatsoever, oks?

That’s just your opinion. Dizon at least has the distinction of having actually found treasure, albeit of the archaeological variety, since he lead the team that discovered the Pinol anthropomorphic burial jars.

Answer: maybe they knew where the old stocks go (Marcos gold deposited abroad)....However, the remaining buried treasures hidden here, Do you think they knew that?....I DON’T THINK SO…he,he,he..

Socks, not stocks, and yes, they know where every treasure is buried, and every body too.

Dumagat - 18 May 2008 08:16 PM

answer: Despite of your comments…I wonder why the Hawaii Supreme Court still awarded $20B + to Roxas heirs….do you think you are more legally expert than Hawaii Supreme Court Justices?....I DON’T THINK SO….or maybe the american justice system stinks?...what do you think?

They didn’t. They overturned the award of $20 billion and suspended the judge who made it.

Dumagat - 17 May 2008 07:52 PM

The supposed Yamashita treasure was accumulated through war crimes and would properly be the property of the individuals and countries from which it was taken. Why do you feel you have any right to it?

  As treasure hunters, whoever get that treasure it should belongs to him…I maybe right or wrong, but who will judge me?

In international law, such stolen property still belongs to its original owners. Certainly, in cases where Nazi loot has been shown to have been stolen from someone it has been returned by the courts. This does not suddenly cease to be the case because you yourself have looted it from the looters, as was demonstrated by the US government’s 2004 settlement with Hungarian Jews for the removal of Nazi loot from Hungary by the US Army at the end of WW2.

So basically you are an immoral person and a thief, but we should take you at your word anyway?

David B. - 19 May 2008 03:36 AM

Dumagat - 17 May 2008 07:52 PM

The supposed Yamashita treasure was accumulated through war crimes and would properly be the property of the individuals and countries from which it was taken. Why do you feel you have any right to it?

  As treasure hunters, whoever get that treasure it should belongs to him…I maybe right or wrong, but who will judge me?

In international law, such stolen property still belongs to its original owners. Certainly, in cases where Nazi loot has been shown to have been stolen from someone it has been returned by the courts. This does not suddenly cease to be the case because you yourself have looted it from the looters, as was demonstrated by the US government’s 2004 settlement with Hungarian Jews for the removal of Nazi loot from Hungary by the US Army at the end of WW2.

So basically you are an immoral person and a thief, but we should take you at your word anyway?

I think he’s seen Indiana Jones a few too many times.

Let me try.

*ahem*

You sir, are a radish.

Thusly, I have provided more ABSOLUTE PROOF that you are a radish than you have proven that you have found a treasure hoard.

I reccomend you either learn to provide a better basis for your arguments or look into a career as a salad garnish.

Although Yamashita was a factual person, the fabrication of untold wealth buried in the Philippines is just not true. The proponents of this swindle claim to be “treasure hunters”, when in fact, they are just seeking out gullible individuals to “finance” them.

A special “shout out” goes to Dumagat A.K.A.  gboy

One just has to google - yamshita, gboy, scam - to follow this trail of deception and fraud. Not the first plausible bit of evidence has ever been supplied to the existence of Yamashita’s Legend. However, the solicitation of funding is plentiful.

You mean he’s posting here trying to get money?

He should talk to the Amway people about how effective that is on this forum.

Thanks, Jim..

So yes, I continue to contend - he is a radish.