So um David are u saying Dumagat is faking it all? because somehow i think that he is faking it Because of a few reasons
1.he does not provide that he is actually working as a treasure hunter and actually found some of it like how i can say Hey everyone im a 12 year old i dont think everyone would believe me.However he can actually prove this by uploading an image or a doc. wich he claims he has.
2.Anyone can say that they have found the treasure.Like this I found it.
But aside from that its pretty much true.But accipiter is right too if your facts are not straight they cant be the least bit true.
I believe however it is in the highway somewhere in the mountains.If you really are a treasure hunter or at least been here in the phil. before you would have known where the big head of marco`s is...Cuz according to some urban legend it is in a huge statue or bust of marcos
David B,
1) How inconvenient that all those ‘tons of gold’ you found were confiscated before you could remove even a single item which might validate your story?
david you are just ordinary mortal...not a treasure hunter or have experience in ACTUAL TREASURE....
GOLD is one of the most precious commodity...in poor country like ours...if you possess GOLD...evrybody will be attracted to you...police, mob, neighbors, military, robbers and kidnappers, even in closed relatives,etc....GOLD in poor country like us...is like SUGAR IN ANT HILL.
Bcoz THAT IS THE POWER OR CURSE OF GOLD.... a nice/honest partner or neighbor can EASILY BECOME TRAITOR, and that complicate treasure hunting. The GREED of MEN can easily changes by the GLITTER OF GOLD, WHICH IN return or oftentimes COMPROMISE your security. Haven’t you watch movies? no matter how planned the treasure operations was...somehow, somewhere it seems there is always a problem (oftentimes endless problems)...IT HAPPENS IN ACTUAL TREASURE HUNTING...and only a treasure hunter can uderstand it, NOT A BYSTANDER LIKE YOU. oks?
2)The Illuminati know everything. That is why they are the Illuminati.
I GUESS NOT....
3)It’s a fair criticism of your postings that things you have claimed are in disagreement with historical fact. If you cannot explain the discrepancies then it reduces the credibility of your stories of WW2 treasure.
Its okey to rebutt with you on historical facts....however since most of you had 10 replies and each reply had many questions. I preffered or prioritize questions that related to japanese treasure hunting....thats why I keep on saying that JAPANESE WW2 WAR LOOT QUESTIONS. However if there is only one reply/questions and its about WW2 histrical facts, i may have time to answer it. But if all of you have simultaneously post/replies/ questions...I prefer japanese treasure questions, oks?
4) Yes, given that you can’t even get simple facts right about the war which supposedly lead to this treasure being buried in the first place, why should we believe you are right about anything else to do with the treasure?
What are the facts that you wanted to clarify about re Japanese ww2 treasure?....Pls. make your questions as simple/precise as possible...meaning direct to the point.....bcoz its tiring to reply if you have very long paragraph and one questions that not even related to WW2 treasures...oks? meaning...JUST ASK SIMPLY A VERY CLEAR DIRECT TO THE POINT TREASURE QUESTIONS so that i can reply to the best of my knowledge....
5) You might also want to answer some of Accipiter’s other questions regarding the treasure. Which you seem to have (conveniently) overlooked.
and what is accipeter treasure questions in his post?....I don’t see any questions mark in his litany....did you?
SIVER MAGNUM
So um David are u saying Dumagat is faking it all? because somehow i think that he is faking it Because of a few reasons
1.he does not provide that he is actually working as a treasure hunter and actually found some of it like how i can say Hey everyone im a 12 year old i dont think everyone would believe me.However he can actually prove this by uploading an image or a doc. wich he claims he has.....BTW, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR WHAT???
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2.Anyone can say that they have found the treasure.Like this I found it.
But aside from that its pretty much true.But accipiter is right too if your facts are not straight they cant be the least bit true.
what i wanted from him is to ask ...direct to the point treasure questions...meaning one question sentence...one answer...so that it would be easier for me to answer all your questions.....if possible put number in your questions...ex: Accipeter question 1, 2 ,3 etc...david questions 1,2,3 ...etc.
3) I believe however it is in the highway somewhere in the mountains.If you really are a treasure hunter or at least been here in the phil. before you would have known where the big head of marco`s is...Cuz according to some urban legend it is in a huge statue or bust of marcos ...
Its just an urban legend...that site is too obvious...Macos won’t hide treasure in there...but we know where marcos reburried sites where...My treasure partner Budz, his late father is the one who inventored and inspected these MARCOS REBURRIED SITES in late 1970s AND EARLY 1980’S…
BTW, The ILLUMINATI/Gold Cartel thinks that they outsmart Marcos by confiscating his treasure hoard deposited abroad...WRONG...bcoz Marcos had several REBURRIED SITES...he,he,he...and we know where they were....OKS?.
B. BURIED / LAND TREASURE SITES
19) Tokyo 2 Tunnel (very large)
20) Japs Jungle Base Camp (large)
21) Callao Secret (large)
22) School Secret Treasure (medium)
23) Prado’s Court (medium)
24) Springfield Tunnel (medium)
25) Japs Plane Hangar treasure (medium)
26) Cargo Truck Tunnel (medium)
27) Church Secret Treasure (medium)
28) Skull Tunnel Treasure (medium)
29) Masoc / Grandfather Treasure (medium)
30) Egg Cave Treasure (medium)
31) Zapote Tree Secret (small)
32) Mango Tree Secret (small)
33) Santolan Tree Secret (small)
34) Tamarind tree Secret (small)
35) Lamp Light Treasure 1 (small)
36) Lamp Light Treasure 2 (small)
37) Peroz Road Treasure (small)
38) Triangle Bridge Treasure (small)
39) Japs Flag Treasure 1 (small)
40) Japs Flag Treasure 2 (small)
41) Japs Execution Camp Treasure (small)
42) Mango Hill Treasure (small)
43) Japs Cargo Plane 1 (small)
44) Japs Cargo Plane 2 (small)
46) Eagle Rock Treasure (small)
C. UNDERWATER TREASURE SITES
46) 2-Metal Box (small)
47) Underwater Golden Budha (small)
48) El Diablo Island Secret (small)
2. MINDANAO / VISAYAS ISLAND
A. LAND TREASURE SITES
49) Seven General Treasure (very large)
50) Three Gen. Treasure of Tagurano (very large)
51) Gen. Yamashita Treasure at Mundo Hill (very large)
52) Gen. Yamashita Treasure at Panabo (large)
53) Gen. Sakura Treasure (large)
54) Gen. Toyogoshi Treasure (large)
55) Gen. Kutamura Treasure (large)
56) Gen. Teruya Treasure (large)
57) Gen. Yamada Treasure (large)
58) Gen. Murakami Treasure (large)
59) Adm. Nakone Treasure (large)
60) Adm. Igie Treasure (large)
61) Col. Oshihiro Hansawa Treasure (large)
62) Col. Yamaguchi Treasure (large)
63) Lt. Ohata Treasure (medium)
64) Secrets Of Carmen (small)
65) Secrets of Cuyo Island (small)
66) Secrets of Dalirig (small)
67) Secrets of Dagat K Dabaw (small)
68) Secrets of Lake Sebu (small)
69) Secrets of Lake Venado (small)
70) Secrets of Lipadas (small)
71) Secrets of Makilo Ranges (large)
72) Secrets of Mt. Apo (large)
73) Secrets of Namnam (small)
74) Secrets of Pangantucan (large)
75) Secrets of Raware (medium)
76) Secrets of Silae (small)
77) Secrets of Sinuda (small)
78) Secrets of Tamugan (medium)
79) Secrets of Upian 1 and 2 (medium)
80) Nubos Treasure (medium)
81) Takahashi Butai Treasure (very large)
82) Kashibaora / Tanaka Treasure (very large)
83) 10th Buntai Treasure (medium)
84) Horse Cave Treasure (small)
85) Crocodile Cave Treasure (medium)
86) Giant Lizard Cave Treasure (medium)
87) Madapo Hill Treasure (small)
88) Kiakol Treasure (small)
89) Todaya Treasure (medium)
90) Crown of Cambodia (medium)
91) Djakarta Tunnel (very large)
92) Medusa Tunnel (small)
93) Tunnel 9 (very large)
94) Lying Lady Mountain (medium)
95) Golden Budha of St. Francis (small)
96) 3 –Chained /Wired Tomb (small)
97) Lonely Tomb of Talomo (small)
98) Lonely Tomb of St. Ines (small)
99) Lonely Tomb of Luban (small)
100) Sea Tomb of Luban (small)
101) 15 lonely Tomb of Wao (medium)
102) Samurai Tomb (small)
103) Sinkhole Tomb and Box (small)
104) Mysterious Jungle Steel Crate (small)
105) Waterfalls of Block (small)
106) Foxhole of Umayam (small)
107) Swimming Horse of Kisawi (small)
108) Underground Horse of Mt. Magolo (medium)
109) Tabokno Falls treasure (small)
110) Gandara Secret (small)
111) St. Vincent Secret (small)
B. UNDERWATER TREASURE SITES
112) Siwa Maru,D Island Ship(very large)
113) Tikang Maru (large)
114) Sakima Maru (large)
115) Maru of the Orient 3 (large)
116) Capt. Kimura 6 ships (very large)
117) Mini Submarine (small)
118) Camouflage Submarine (medium)
119) Cliff wall Submarine (medium)
120) Underground Submarine base (large)
121) Runway Edge Sea Vault (small)
122) Daibatsu of Ginoog and Davao Gulf (large)
Notes:
1) Treasure volume: small (1-10 tons), medium (20-50 tons), large (50-100 tons), very large (above 100 tons). Estimated volume of treasure may change.
2) These are the treasure leads and information we have accumulated thru more than 20 years of extensive treasure research, exploration, actual operation, interviews of Japs / Filipino veterans, maps, live pointers and natives.
3) These are the combination of different type of treasures sites….buried (shallow/deep), tunnel, caves (open, closed, waterfalls, underwater), ship and submarine wrecks, tombs, statues, school, church, etc. In different kind of terrain in the Philippines…town, mountains, jungle, waterfalls, caves, rivers, sea…etc.
4) These suspected treasure sites have different stages of operation: for diggings, exploration, recovery, relocation…etc.
5) Its our team that names these suspected treasure sites for easy reference.
Hey guys,...the above post are just suspected Japanese Ww2 treasure sites SAMPLES....who is knowledgable or well research in WW2 Japanese treasure now..DUMAGAT TEAM OR ILLLUMINATI...he,he,he…
5) You might also want to answer some of Accipiter’s other questions regarding the treasure. Which you seem to have (conveniently) overlooked.
and what is accipeter treasure questions in his post?....I don’t see any questions mark in his litany....did you?
From Acci’s post:
Accipiter - 15 May 2008 12:32 PM
So if they were so worried about this vast treasure being sunk, then why risk it at all by taking it to the Philippines in the first place?
And:
So why didn’t they ship out this giant treasure before the Allies finally liberated the Philippines?
David B,
1) “How inconvenient that all those ‘tons of gold’ you found were confiscated before you could remove even a single item which might validate your story?”
david you are just ordinary mortal...not a treasure hunter or have experience in ACTUAL TREASURE....
GOLD is one of the most precious commodity...in poor country like ours...if you possess GOLD...evrybody will be attracted to you...police, mob, neighbors, military, robbers and kidnappers, even in closed relatives,etc....GOLD in poor country like us...is like SUGAR IN ANT HILL.
Bcoz THAT IS THE POWER OR CURSE OF GOLD.... a nice/honest partner or neighbor can EASILY BECOME TRAITOR, and that complicate treasure hunting. The GREED of MEN can easily changes by the GLITTER OF GOLD, WHICH IN return or oftentimes COMPROMISE your security. Haven’t you watch movies? no matter how planned the treasure operations was...somehow, somewhere it seems there is always a problem (oftentimes endless problems)...IT HAPPENS IN ACTUAL TREASURE HUNTING...and only a treasure hunter can uderstand it, NOT A BYSTANDER LIKE YOU. oks?
No, since the only proof you have of your claims are words, which are as worthless as gold is not. Out of two tons of gold you came away with absolutely zero proof. Congratulations, that must be some kind of world’s record for failure.
Since you are apparently the world’s worst treasure hunter, why is what you say in any way reliable?
2) “The Illuminati know everything. That is why they are the Illuminati.”
I GUESS NOT....
Then you guessed wrong.
3) “It’s a fair criticism of your postings that things you have claimed are in disagreement with historical fact. If you cannot explain the discrepancies then it reduces the credibility of your stories of WW2 treasure.”
Its okey to rebutt with you on historical facts....however since most of you had 10 replies and each reply had many questions. I preffered or prioritize questions that related to japanese treasure hunting....thats why I keep on saying that JAPANESE WW2 WAR LOOT QUESTIONS. However if there is only one reply/questions and its about WW2 histrical facts, i may have time to answer it. But if all of you have simultaneously post/replies/ questions...I prefer japanese treasure questions, oks?
No. If you say things that are clearly wrong and cannot explain this then everything you say is suspect. If I claimed that diamonds grew on trees, were purple, and started off soft and squishy until sundried to their characteristic hardness, does that make my claim to know where there’s a really rich diamond mine more or less credible?
5) “You might also want to answer some of Accipiter’s other questions regarding the treasure. Which you seem to have (conveniently) overlooked.”
and what is accipeter treasure questions in his post?....I don’t see any questions mark in his litany....did you?
Yes.
Accipiter - 15 May 2008 12:32 PM
The route from Singapore to the Philippines was just as risky as the route from the Philippines to Japan. . .or the route straight from Singapore to Japan. Allied submarines were very active around the routes from Singapore to the Philippines. So if they were so worried about this vast treasure being sunk, then why risk it at all by taking it to the Philippines in the first place?
So why didn’t they ship out this giant treasure before the Allies finally liberated the Philippines? If they were going to lose it anyway, then the risk of having it sunk was less than the certainty of losing it to the Allies.
Since you were asking for straightforward treasure-related questions.
DB1) After 60 years of searching, not one example of a Yamashita treasure-trove - either full or emptied - has ever been revealed to the public. Why is that?
DB2) The supposed Yamashita treasure was accumulated through war crimes and would properly be the property of the individuals and countries from which it was taken. Why do you feel you have any right to it?
DB3) Eusebio Dizon, an archaeologist at the Manila National Museum, spent 18 years looking for physical or documentary evidence of the treasure, but found nothing. He concluded that there was no evidence for the story and it was most likely a myth. Is this not an expert opinion on the matter?
Hey guys,...the above post are just suspected Japanese Ww2 treasure sites SAMPLES....who is knowledgable or well research in WW2 Japanese treasure now..DUMAGAT TEAM OR ILLLUMINATI...he,he,he…
The Illuminati, who (a) know how to spell ‘knowledgeable’, and (b) already know whether or not there is treasure at any of the sites listed.
You know, somehow I find a list of places where people suspect there is treasure very poor evidence that there is actually treasure there.
DB4) Could you instead produce a list of all the places that have been confirmed to be Yamashita treasure stores? Preferably with a link to the newspaper article where this amazing discovery was reported?
I like your questions...simple and precise....its easy to see and read. You know guys if many people are asking questions simultaneously and every questions is a whole paragragh...you don’t expect me to answer it all, bcoz am sure i will miss...one or two questions...thats why i wanted all your questions to e simple and precise...oks?
Let it be reminded...you may or may not agree with my answers....hey its democracy...we have some diffferent opnions…
1) So if they were so worried about this vast treasure being sunk, then why risk it at all by taking it to the Philippines in the first place?
As per research, The Japanese have two options...to bring the treasure to Japan or Philippines....If they can’t get it thru japan then they will hide it here...as explained before, Phillippines is the center of pacific Asia...and if they lose, the japanese concession/appeal to americans to spare the Phil. for them...which did not happen. The only appeal that was aproved by the americans is to spare their Emperor from shame of death penalty....thats why the Emperor of Japan...was NOT blamed for war atrocities...only the generals.
2) So why didn’t they ship out this giant treasure before the Allies finally liberated the Philippines…
They can’t there is already naval/submarine blockade, they can no longer bring treasure to japan...besides their second option is to hide treasures in Philippines in deep underground treasure chamber, and they expct that they will still be spared the Phil. for them...when it didn’t happen, the japanese slowly infiltrated the Philippines by massive mining, construction to remote areas and logging...ALL ARE BUSINESS FRONT FOR TREASURE HUNTING....they have been doing these for decades in cooperation of our corrupt gov’t.
DAVID B.
1) No, since the only proof you have of your claims are words, which are as worthless as gold is not. Out of two tons of gold you came away with absolutely zero proof. Congratulations, that must be some kind of world’s record for failure.
Since you are apparently the world’s worst treasure hunter, why is what you say in any way reliable?
I will never insist that my words are reliable...ITS UP TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND ANALYZE if what am saying is true or hoax.
I have stated my facts and explanation, its up to you to understand or not. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
BTW, I AM NOT OBLIGED TO SHOW HERE OUR COMPREHENSIVE 300 PAGES/20 YR… TREASURE RESEARCH (maps,pictures, markers,sites etc)...simply bcoz its STRICKLY CONFIDENTIAL....we usually show it to only to our friends, partners and funders....
Remember guys, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION FORUM....NOT A POWER POINT… PROJECT PRESENTATION....Am NOT obliged to convince you all....ONLY TO INFORM YOU...wether you believe it or not.
2) No. If you say things that are clearly wrong and cannot explain this then everything you say is suspect…
If you think my arguments are dobtful, THEN YOU SHOULD CORRECT ME, AND EXPLAIN IT HERE, WHAT YOU SEEMED TO BE RIGHT....so that I can rebutt.....Stop complaining, say your facts and i will say mine...as simple as that.
3) DB1) After 60 years of searching, not one example of a Yamashita treasure-trove - either full or emptied - has ever been revealed to the public. Why is that?
Of course there is....in 1972 a local treasure hunter Rogelio roxas had recovered 2 ton golden Budha and a cave full of treasures (it tookarmy one year to haul)...it was headline and investigated by Phil. senate. The Roxas treasures was CONFISCATED BY MARCOS....thats why Roxas estate file a court Case in hawaii and they were awarded...$22 billion dollars by HAWAII SUPREME COURT....
There are other small recoveries but mostly didn’t reach the MEDIA LOCAL/ABROAD....In our poor country, announcing that you recover treasure...AUTOMATICALLY, YOUR LIVES will last only a few minutes...believe me its a death warrant.
4) The supposed Yamashita treasure was accumulated through war crimes and would properly be the property of the individuals and countries from which it was taken. Why do you feel you have any right to it?
As treasure hunters, whoever get that treasure it should belongs to him...I maybe right or wrong, but who will judge me?
Remeber that MOST TREASURES IN EVERY COUNTRY BANKS...AND MUSEUM ARE PRODUCT OF WAR OR LOOTING....
GOLD or TREASURES...thru centuries only changes different hands or countries...from Genghis Khan, Conquestadores, Incas, Nazi, ..etc....Why don’t you go to your NATIONAL MUSEUM AND ASK WHY THE HECK...THE TREASURE OF OTHER COUNTRIES WAS DISPLAYED THERE??? haven’t you wander ...WHO GAVE THEM THE RIGHT TO GET OTHER COUNTRIES TREASURES and displayed it on their museum?
5) Eusebio Dizon, an archaeologist at the Manila National Museum, spent 18 years looking for physical or documentary evidence of the treasure, but found nothing. He concluded that there was no evidence for the story and it was most likely a myth. Is this not an expert opinion on the matter?
Mr. E. Dizon is only an educator,archeologist...NOT A YAM TREASURE EXPERT...he is completely IGNORANT of yam treasure hunting which is MOSTLY SECRET AND COVERT TREASURE OPERATION…
6) The Illuminati, who (a) know how to spell ‘knowledgeable’, and (b) already know whether or not there is treasure at any of the sites listed.
Don’t be childish, this IS NOT A SPELLING CONTEST, i may mispelled one or two..but its NOT an issue to me. As long as the message was clearly informed, thats fine with me.
ONE thing for sure...THE ILLUMINATI doesn’t know these sites he,he,he...believe me....and ASSUMING they do, what can they do about it...salivate/drool?
