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Posted: 15 May 2008 04:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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silver caliber magnum - 15 May 2008 12:08 AM

Tah is right dumagat. I know what mongoloid means and its pretty insulting term filipinos often use to project racism.So please answer properly and its not really OUR loss actually if u dont want to spread your knowledge about the subject.I know you must be a great and a smart individual but as tah said we were not insulting you

That’s interesting- here ‘mongoloid’ isn’t a racist term. It’s a insult but it means ‘retard’ as opposed to anything racist. See, you learn something everyday.

Either way it’s not cool to start a post with it.

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Posted: 15 May 2008 04:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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Renquist - 15 May 2008 04:11 AM
silver caliber magnum - 15 May 2008 12:08 AM

Tah is right dumagat. I know what mongoloid means and its pretty insulting term filipinos often use to project racism.So please answer properly and its not really OUR loss actually if u dont want to spread your knowledge about the subject.I know you must be a great and a smart individual but as tah said we were not insulting you

That’s interesting- here ‘mongoloid’ isn’t a racist term. It’s a insult but it means ‘retard’ as opposed to anything racist. See, you learn something everyday.

Either way it’s not cool to start a post with it.

Um my mistake actually back in school actually it ment two things first was what you said while the second is well same my mistake

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Posted: 15 May 2008 04:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Dumagat - 14 May 2008 07:15 PM

DO YOU HAVE ANYMORE JAPS TREASURE QUESTIONS, gentlemen???...he,he,he

Yes, do you have the slightest shred of empirical proof for anything you say?

Personally, I am quite sure you are wrong because all the gold was recovered by the Illuminati and used to fund research into the space-based hologram and gravitational wave projectors they used to pull off 9/11. The holograms were used to give the appearance of aircraft crashing into the buildings and the GW projectors were used to collapse them on command, hence explaining how the towers contrived to fall at faster than free-fall speeds.

I was told this by my Uncle Jack, who’s golfing buddies with the head of the Illuminati in Europe (and a 13 handicap).

Just saying stuff does not make it true, as any real “researcher” would know.

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Posted: 15 May 2008 07:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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So umm.. David are u saying he has no single piece of evidence that what he says is legit or are u messing with us?

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Posted: 15 May 2008 08:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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I thought everyone knew about the holograms and stuff?

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Posted: 15 May 2008 08:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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David B. - 15 May 2008 08:05 AM

I thought everyone knew about the holograms and stuff?

That just fake.or is it?

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Posted: 15 May 2008 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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Dumagat - 14 May 2008 07:15 PM

Bcoz they knew that their treasures armada will be blockaded if they transport their treasure to Japan, therefore their logical choice is to hid it in the Philippines…

The route from Singapore to the Philippines was just as risky as the route from the Philippines to Japan. . .or the route straight from Singapore to Japan.  Allied submarines were very active around the routes from Singapore to the Philippines.  So if they were so worried about this vast treasure being sunk, then why risk it at all by taking it to the Philippines in the first place?

and if they lose, they plan to ask the US to spare the Philippines as last japs colony, of course, the US didn’t agree with the Japs concession and still liberate our country and recover treasure with the help of former Phil. Pres. Marcos.

So why didn’t they ship out this giant treasure before the Allies finally liberated the Philippines?  If they were going to lose it anyway, then the risk of having it sunk was less than the certainty of losing it to the Allies.

FYI: Of course, Japan foresight was 20 years advance….according to Maj. Gen. Inami Murakami (my filipino bestfriend grandpa), the Emperor of Japan was eager to join WW1 but controled himself bcoz he was NOT prepared for WW1, thats why they only fight with the Russians in Sakhalin Islands…

Ummmm. . .the Japanese were quite active in WWI.  Their navy was importantly involved in the Pacific and Indian Oceans and the Mediterranean, and they sent troops all over the place.

The americans doesn’t know these that the japs were already preparing for war as early as 1915,

Sure they did.  Even while they were allied in the first World War, the US and the Japanese weren’t really happy with each other and hadn’t been since the Russo-Japanese war at least.  It was pretty much taken for granted by the mid-1930’s that the US and Japan would come into conflict unless one side or the other made some serious changes in their policies.  The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour was a surprise attack (putting aside all the related conspiracy theories), but the idea of a war starting was certainly no surprise.

thats why the americanss was caught by surpirse to see the war advanced technology of Japan…

And the Japanese were caught by surprise by the technology of the Americans and British.  It wasn’t all one-sided.

they were able to build 10,000 war planes,

The Japanese started the war with something like 2,000 airplanes, and they went downhill from there.  They were never able to come close to matching the production levels of the US, which is a big part of why the Japanese didn’t do so well in the war.

and submarine that can carry airplane (the americans doesn’t have that)...

Actually, the Americans had that long before WWII.  As did the Germans (who had the first ones, in WWI), the French, the British, and plenty of other people.  But submarine-based aircraft weren’t very practical (which is why they never really played much of a role in anything), and the US decomissioned their own before WWII started.  The idea just didn’t work well with the technological levels of the time.

The Americans was also shock to know that the japs was able to built the world biggest batlleships…

Nah, they knew that the Japanese had a solid ship-building infrastructure.  After all, they’d been watching the Japanese build all sorts of ships for years before the war.  But the Japanese ship-building ability was actually not really all that strong, since the Japanese had only the facilities and not much in the way of resources.  The US knew that they could out-produce the Japanese. . .and they were right.

Oh, and the giant battleships were pretty much just a vanity thing.  They weren’t actually very useful or important, and were actually a very silly thing for them to have made considering their oil shortages of the time.

the JAPS OUTSMART THE WEST…during WW2.

In some ways, yes.  In other ways, no.  You’ll notice, after all, that it wasn’t the Japanese who won. . .

Thats why when they invade the whole asia ...ABCD (americans, british, chinese, Dutch cololnies)...FALLS LIKE DOMINOES, thats not an easy feat,

Well, the British and Dutch had pulled out most of their forces to deal with problems closer to home, and the Americans only had limited forces there as well.  So it was a case of minimal garrisons at the end of a long logistical train against the entire Japanese military right in the Japanese people’s own back yard, relatively speaking.  The Allies were too divided in their theatres of operation to really focus on any one place, which weakened them badly.  But after the initial attacks, once the Allies started to really get involved in the Pacific, the Japanese weren’t able to make any impressive sweeping advances.  And soon they weren’t making any advances at all, really.

Even in todays technology you cannot easily invade a country (see afghanistan and iraq) the americans still having a hardtime up to now….

Sure you can.  Using your example, the Americans and British invaded Iraq quite effectively and efficiently.  What’s happening now is holding the country and policing it, not invading it.  Successful invasions take place fairly often.

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Posted: 15 May 2008 06:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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Accipiter - 15 May 2008 12:32 PM

the JAPS OUTSMART THE WEST…during WW2.

In some ways, yes.  In other ways, no.  You’ll notice, after all, that it wasn’t the Japanese who won. . .

I’m fairly sure we won the war. Unless all those veterans in the British Legion lied to me. Old bastards.

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Posted: 15 May 2008 07:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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Gentlemen,

Whew…lots of reaction…hungry for japanese treasure infos?  Its true that we may have language barrier thats why your “joke conversation” is sometimes unpleasant to me already or probably i was not able to get your joke right. Thats why it was my instinct is to reply unpleasant also,Nevertheless i apologized for my unpleasant reply.
....Anyway, thats NOT the main issue here…you have a treasure question, i probably have an answer. However, for everybody clarification…as much as possible lets avoid nuisance antics as some forum members do, lets be serious and solve these mystery or hoax. What I wanted is for you to ASK A SIMPLE AND CLEAR QUESTIONS RE WW2 JAPANESE TREASURE QUESTIONS…and i will do my best to answer to the best of my knowledge and experience…..LETS GET READY TO RUMBBBBBLLLLLEEEE !!!

1) Transformer
  “How much treasure have you found?
  a) In 2001, our team have found a concrete treasure vault lying in Sierra madre jungle containing 2 tons of gold, unfortunately we were not fincaially and logistically prepared during that time, the local armed politican in that area confiscated our treasures. BTW, in WW2 while the japanese marching thru the jungle carrying gold bars, they don’t have steel vault, what they have are cement…therefore, to hide treasure they just molded the concrete in the area….but of course that is just for small treasures.
  b) In 2003, our team have recovered 64 pcs, 12 kilos gold bars, we went to Benguet Mines to remelt the gold as if it came from the mines (treasure gold bars will be confiscated by corrupt gov’t people). When our team is cruising toward the airport to sell our gold to Central bank. Along the way, our team was ambushed ...5 men died…It was a top headline on TV and newspaper at that time. We suspect that some Benguet mine people could be the culprit or traitor….Lesson learned: ITS JUST PART OF THE HAZZARD OF TREASURE HUNTING.
  BTW, we are 2nd generation treasure hunters, our old folks was treasure hunter also and partner of Marcos from 1965-1980’s…Our old folks thru his treasure hunting efforts recovered more than 10,000 MT tons of gold and was given to Marcos and CIA gold broker Frank B. Higdon (we have picture of him beside our old folks, see his profile on google). When Marcos was deposed all the treasures/bank accounts deposited abroad including his cronies (old folks) was confioscated by PCGG, CIA and Gold Cartel…My old folks died poor…but his remaining marcos reburried sites and other smaller treasures sites was given to us. When our old folks died, we no longer have the “logistics of marcoses” (we are poor remember)...thats why recovering treasure is NO LONGER easy due to lack of budget and hi-tech equipments….thats why most of our sites…remain on the list.

2) How much treasure have you foud yourself (Actually found, not just located as in “it is under a statue but we can’t get it”, since that treasure can’t be proven to be there) and how much of this treasure has been found in general that you know of?
    I have already answer the first questions…..Recovered treasure that I know of? when i was young 1970’s, lots of foriegn people (Swiss bankers, gold brokers, Johnson and Mathey peoples, etc) have endless meeting with our old folks ...transacting gold…by the thousands tons…of course, I never understand it fully…As I grow up and try to gather the documents of my old folks, I later realize its about Yamashita treasures…one docu shows trying to sell to Frank B. Higdon an initial of 2,000 pcs 75 kilos gold bars…Our house was raided twice by military headed by Col. Felix trying to look for the picture of several gold stockpile while our old folks was standing behind. Fortunately the gold bars stockplie picture was burned before the military came….Today, we know the exact treasure site of the cave with gold stockpile…we just put it on the list bcoz we don’t have the budget.
3) Also, I’m still interested in your personal experiences as a treasure hunter. What do you do to hunt treasure?
We usually have endless treasure research, roaming in countryside and befriending lots of treasure hunters, enedless interviesw with ww2 veterans (filipinos, japanese, americans, natives), gathering treasure maps (we have 21), investigating treasure rock markers and etc. So far, we have extensively research more than 100 suspected japanese treasure sites….since we don’t have budget and hi-tech geophysical instruments…we prioritize treasure sites that ni longer needed hi-tech geo instruments…usually these are the treasure sites that cccidentally found by the natives in the jungle…ex: several open treasure cave full of gold bars, golden budha in 20 feet seashore, crashed japanese bomber plane with precious cargoes…etc….unfortunately these sites was located in remote jungle…you need exploration/expedition logistics and budget to get it…in which our team is still lacking right now.


4) I’m sure a lot of research is involved, but do you also interview locals and go out to scan out areas or do you depend mostly on historical records and written history?
  We do all of the above…and even more than that….althoiugh we knew the exact sites of buried treasures, we seldom scan bcoz we do not have those hi-tech geo eqp’ts….we prioritize treasure sites that no longer needed to scan…like marcos reburried sites, native treasure caves, etc…all we have to do is to relocate our old folks treasure guardian based in remote jungles…bring some food or give them gold housing relocation…and voila you have a treasure chamber. !! BTW. our old folks has still have some native assets that supplies him several tons of gold bars during martial law days (1970’s)....although some of my old foks native assets have died already…its their native sons that we are trying to relocate right now…

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Posted: 15 May 2008 07:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 59 ]
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CONTINUATION…

5) SILVER MAGNUM
  “BTW. You seem to go and support the japs alot in your “report” so thats nice,But with all due respect how did The Enterprise and all the other A.C.s beat yamashita and yamato? was it bacause of “bull” halsy? (you don`t need to answer that question”
  Am NOT supporting the Japanese…Am just stating some info in relevance to WW2 japanese treasures…no more no less..

6) beajst,
  “ The Marcos family has it all.“
  NOT TRUE…the Marcos had just recovered only maybe 20 big volume treasure out of 175 big volume sites…and for evry big volum sites it is sorroounded by large, medium, small treasure sites…..If you are a japanese soldier and guarding a warehouse full of treasure. or war loot…do you think you will not be tempted to hide a box or two as your own buried treasures?...thats what happen…for every big volume sites…it is sorrounded by several smaller sites…

7) DAVID,
  a) Yes, do you have the slightest shred of empirical proof for anything you say?
      YES WE DO,and even more ... read above explanation….in fact, Seagrave best friend is impress with our treasure research more than 300 pages of treasure files complete with maps, pictures,bank docu,etc, etc…
 
    b)Personally, I am quite sure you are wrong because all the gold was recovered by the Illuminati and used to fund research into the space-based hologram and gravitational wave projectors they used to pull off 9/11. The holograms were used to give the appearance of aircraft crashing into the buildings and the GW projectors were used to collapse them on command, hence explaining how the towers contrived to fall at faster than free-fall speeds.
    FYI: The ILLUMINATI are ONLY familiar with the treasure recovered by marcoses and deposited abroad…they ARE NOT familiar with the treasures still buried and hidden.

8) ACCIPETER
    I love to debate with you on WW2 history, but it will prolong my answers and discussion which difficult to post already…but that was NOT my intention here…Am more intersted to ANSWER JAPANESE WW2 TREASURE QUESTIONS…as much as possible.


ANY MORE JAPANESE TREASURE QUESTIONS???

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Posted: 16 May 2008 01:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 60 ]
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Dumagat - 15 May 2008 07:52 PM

7) DAVID,
a) “Yes, do you have the slightest shred of empirical proof for anything you say?“

YES WE DO,and even more ... read above explanation….in fact, Seagrave best friend is impress with our treasure research more than 300 pages of treasure files complete with maps, pictures,bank docu,etc, etc…

How inconvenient that all those ‘tons of gold’ you found were confiscated before you could remove even a single item which might validate your story. Why it’s just like all that proof of UFOs that the government takes off people before they ever have a chance to show it to a reputable witness, or the incredibly revealing proofs of government conspiracies that are somehow whisked away by top secret agencies before their discoverer can get to a journalist.

You know, the rate at which actual, physical evidence for any of these astounding claims disappears is quite uncanny. It’s like they were never there at all!
 

b) “Personally, I am quite sure you are wrong because all the gold was recovered by the Illuminati and used to fund research into the space-based hologram and gravitational wave projectors they used to pull off 9/11. The holograms were used to give the appearance of aircraft crashing into the buildings and the GW projectors were used to collapse them on command, hence explaining how the towers contrived to fall at faster than free-fall speeds.“
FYI: The ILLUMINATI are ONLY familiar with the treasure recovered by marcoses and deposited abroad…they ARE NOT familiar with the treasures still buried and hidden.

The Illuminati know everything. That is why they are the Illuminati. hmmm

8) ACCIPETER
I love to debate with you on WW2 history, but it will prolong my answers and discussion which difficult to post already…but that was NOT my intention here…Am more intersted to ANSWER JAPANESE WW2 TREASURE QUESTIONS…as much as possible.

It’s a fair criticism of your postings that things you have claimed are in disagreement with historical fact. If you cannot explain the discrepancies then it reduces the credibility of your stories of WW2 treasure.

ANY MORE JAPANESE TREASURE QUESTIONS???

Yes, given that you can’t even get simple facts right about the war which supposedly lead to this treasure being buried in the first place, why should we believe you are right about anything else to do with the treasure?

You might also want to answer some of Accipiter’s other questions regarding the treasure. Which you seem to have (conveniently) overlooked.

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