Armite - 11 February 2008 05:04 PM

OK, if you take all the letters in Bill Gates III and then convert it in ASCII code (American standard code for information interchange) and then ADD up all the numbers…you will get 666, which is the number of the beast!!!

B = 66
I = 73
L = 76
L = 76
G = 71
A = 65
T = 84
E = 69
S = 83
I = 1
I = 1
I = 1

= 666 !!!! THE NUMBER OF THE DEVIL

First off, you took an uncommon form of his name.  I have never heard anybody refer to him as Bill Gates III before.  It’s usually been just Bill Gates, though I’ve seen William Gates, William Gates III, and even his full name William Henry Gates III.

Secondly, you left out all spaces.  His name is Bill Gates III, not Billgatesiii (which actually would be kinda cool. . .it sounds like a tribe of the Belgae or something like that).  So you need to add 64 to your total sum there.

B = 66
I = 73
L = 76
L = 76
_ = 32
G = 71
A = 65
T = 84
E = 69
S = 83
_ = 32
I = 1
I = 1
I = 1

= 730 total

And you have two different values going for the letter “I”:  73 at first, and 1 later.  If you’re going to have “secret messages” encoded in these things, then you need to have the key be consistent.  So “I” can be equal to 73 in all cases, or else to 1.  ASCII code seems to feel that it ought to be 73.

What does that give us?

B = 66
I = 73
L = 76
L = 76
_ = 32
G = 71
A = 65
T = 84
E = 69
S = 83
_ = 32
I = 73
I = 73
I = 73

= 946 total.

Or you could count those three I’s as representing the number one.  But “1” in ASCII is not 1.  It is 49.

B = 66
I = 73
L = 76
L = 76
_ = 32
G = 71
A = 65
T = 84
E = 69
S = 83
_ = 32
I (one) = 49
I (one) = 49
I (one) = 49

= 874 total

You also wrote it all in capital letters; using lower cased where normally they’re used would give you a totally different sum.  As would using some of the other number codes that are used for ASCII, such as the one where B is 42, I is 49, and so on.

So really, you only get 666 if you set it all up artificially and inconsistently to do so.

Accipiter - 11 February 2008 10:43 PM

So really, you only get 666 if you set it all up artificially and inconsistently to do so.

Really? But what sort of person would do that…
Oh. ok.

Armite - 11 February 2008 05:04 PM

Coincidence? Maybe, but take WINDOWS 95 and do the SAME procedure and you will get 666 too!!! And the same goes for MS-DOS 6.31!!! Are you sure this is not a coincidence? You decide….

MS-DOS 6.21 ** 77+83+45+68+79+83+32+54+46+50+49 = 666

WINDOWS 95 ** 87+73+78+68+79+87+83+57+53+1= 666

Whatever you’re spelling out in those, it’s not the same thing you spelled out at first.

BILLGATESIII is twelve characters, so would be coded for by 12 numbers.  As in your first example:

B = 66
I = 73
L = 76
L = 76
G = 71
A = 65
T = 84
E = 69
S = 83
I = 1
I = 1
I = 1

Your MS-DOS string of numbers has eleven numbers in it, while your Windows 95 one has only ten numbers.  You’re losing letters.  Nor do they even show the repetitions that you’d find in Bill Gates’ name, with the two L’s and the three I’s on the end.

B = 77
I = 83
L = 45
L = 68
G = 79
A = 83
T = 32
E = 54
S = 46
I = 50
I = 49
I = ?

B = 87
I = 73
L = 78
L = 68
G = 79
A = 87
T = 83
E = 57
S = 53
I = 1
I = ?
I = ?

So your two examples of Bill Gates’ name equaling 666 in those two codes are completely false.

Armite - 11 February 2008 05:04 PM

The Internet also bears the sign. Note that the Internet is also commonly known as the World Wide Web or WWW. One other way we write W is V/ (VI) so:

W W W = VI VI VI 6 6 6

If you write the letter “W” as “V/”, then you need better penmanship lessons.  That’s the only meaning hidden in there.  A “W” is a “W”.  You could make a case for it being a “V V” or “U U”, but there simply isn’t a way to say that “W” is “VI”.  They’re just different things.  You might as well say that “W” is “J”, or “R”, or “SMK”.  It’s nonsense.

W is not V/.

V/ is not VI.

W is not 6.

Yay for Acci
I thought he’d solve the thing

Renquist - 11 February 2008 05:27 PM

May I actually point out that the Number of the Beast given in the Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus, the earliest known copy of the Book of Revelations held in Paris, is 616.

666 is a common misconception being drawn from more recent translations of Revelations, but its original form gives it as 616.

Thus.

Mwa ha ha ha.

Well, that

Except for the fact that the Adversus Haereses is a book on gnosticism and heresy, while the Oxyrhynchus papyrus is a copy of the Book of Revelation.

Adversus Haereses is not a book of the Bible, more like an unofficial sourcebook (now there’s an analogy).

I seem to remember on QI, Stephen Fry said that while it was almost certainly 616 in the beginning, some religious figure (I can’t for the life of me remember who) decided to change it to 666 during translation (for no apparent reason other than he didn’t like 616) and that became accepted. I’m going to have to look that up but I remember it quite distinctly.

Here’s a discussion on it on the QI forum.

Renquist - 11 February 2008 11:19 PM

Except for the fact that the Adversus Haereses is a book on gnosticism and heresy, while the Oxyrhynchus papyrus is a copy of the Book of Revelation.

Exactly.  Which is why Ireneaus was discussing the 666/616 thing in it.  He and some others were concerned about the idea of 616 spreading and becoming a heresy.  He also predates the Oxyrhynchus papyrus by a good long ways, and the Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus by far longer.  He was possibly alive when the author of the Book of Revelation was still alive.  So it’s clear that 666 and 616 both predate the Oxyrhynchus papyrus and the Codex.  All we know is that right after the very start, 666 was considered the established form by some of the most powerful and influential early Christian groups.

We’re in the odd position of having discussions of the material in the Book of Revelation that predate our earliest copies of the source material itself.  So all we can do is make our best guess based on the timeframe of the discussions, who was writing them, and so on.

I seem to remember on QI, Stephen Fry said that while it was almost certainly 616 in the beginning, some religious figure (I can’t for the life of me remember who) decided to change it to 666 during translation (for no apparent reason other than he didn’t like 616) and that became accepted. I’m going to have to look that up but I remember it quite distinctly.

Rather than 616 being changed to 666 (or the other way around) just on a whim, it’s more likely just a mistaken in copying.  They would have been using Alexandrian-style numbering systems at the time, and 616 in that form is simply 666 written in a slightly sloppy way.  When reading and copying a long hand-lettered manuscript, it would be easy to see one and mistake it for the other.

616 is a member of the Padovan sequence, coming after 265, 351, 465 (it is the sum of the first two of these). 616 is a polygonal number in four different ways: it is a heptagonal number, as well as 13-, 31- and 104-gonal.  919 upside down is 616, a prime number, a chen prime, a palindromic prime, a Centered 41-gonal Number, a centered hexagonal number.  It is also the 11th cuban prime 616 / 11 = 56. Prime Factors of 56=2x2x2x7. 2+2+2+7=13, Friday the 13th any one?

56 can be Partitioned 29 times with each term no larger than 2.

56 can be Partitioned 290 times with each term no larger than 3.

56 can be Partitioned 1575 times with each term no larger than 4.

56 is a Tetrahedral Number.

56 is an Abundant Number.

11 can be Partitioned in 56 ways.

56 is the number of reduced 5 x 5 Latin squares.

56 is the maximal number of regions into which 10 lines divide a plane.

Barium is a soft, silver-white metallic element with atomic number 56

The 56 outer cubes of the Cube of Space.

The 56 Minor Arcana of the Tarot.

The Nabataean Game: The city of Petra: An ancient board game carved in the rock is 4 holes by 14 holes=56 holes.

The 56 Aubrey Holes are part of Stonehenge. They are 56 holes arranged in a circle, but their purpose is unknown.

“There are fifty-six God-realized souls in the world at all times.”
Meher Baba
Prime Factors of 616=2x3x3x7x11. 2+3+3+7+11=26, so is it by consequence that th sum of the 5th, 6th, and 7th Fibonacci numbers = 5 + 8 + 13 = 26

Sum of the 5th through 8th numbers: 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 = 26

Sum of the 1st four Mersenne numbers=26.

Difference in the 2nd pair of amicable numbers = 1210 - 1184 = 26.

26 is the only number to be directly between a square and a cube.

The Great Rhombicuboctahedron is an Archimedean Solid with 26 Faces.

The Small Rhombicuboctahedron is an Archimedean Solid with 26 Faces.

The Chemical Element Iron has an atomic number of 26.

The 26 ganglions of the sympathetic system of the Human body.

The 26 letters of the Latin alphabet.

The 26 letters of the English Alphabet.

The Sumerians used a zodiac including 13 constellations and 26 main stars.

There is no doubt that numbers are evil and must be eradicated and replaces with squiggles and zigzags.

Neo - 11 February 2008 11:49 PM

There is no doubt that numbers are evil and must be eradicated and replaces with squiggles and zigzags.

But. . .but what if somebody starts counting the zig-zags?!?  We’ll be DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!

666 lists in their proper order the letters used for numbers in Roman numeration system, namely D (500) + C (100) + L (50) + X (10) + V (5) + I (1), or DCLXVI. which upside don is ıʌxlɔp, I don’t need to tell you what that means.

666 is the sum of the squares of two consecutive Triangular Numbers: (15x15) + (21x21).

666 is the sum of two consecutive palindromic primes 313 + 353.

Prime Factors of 666=2x3x3x37. 2+3+3+37=45

45 is a Triangular Number.

45 is a Hexagonal Number.

45 is a Super Catalan Number.

45 is a 16-gonal Number.

45 * 14 = 630   666-360=36 6*6 = 36 3 6’s

Prime Factors of 45=3x3x5. 3+3+5 = 11

Half of the first 64 Partition numbers are divisible by 11.

11 is the largest known multiplicative persistence.

11 is the maximal number of regions into which 4 lines divide a plane.

The Chemical Element Sodium has an atomic number of 11.

The sun spot cycle repeats about every 11 years.

In the year 11 AD theYellow River overflowed it’s banks, leaving millions homeless and creating a widespread famine in the Chinese Empire.

11 is a Prime Number.

11 is a Super Catalan Number.

11 is a Centered Decagonal Number.

11 is a Lucas Number, which is eerily similar to Lucifers number.

There can be no doubt this number should be stricken from the annals of history.