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Posted: 11 December 2007 04:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 100 ]
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WayToGo’s sixth post, comment no. 61 continued:

Of course, you can ban me

Only. . .ummm. . .I think four people on this Forum can ban you.  Alex (who is the webmaster here, and who really doesn’t have much to do with the Forum), Boo, Charybdis, and Smerk.  A few others (all of whom have the title “Curator”) are moderators who can block a specific IP address, but can’t actually ban a username.  All the rest of us can do nothing more than hit the “ignore” button and thus not read what you write.

And note how WayToGo wasn’t banned until it was clear that he wasn’t going to participate in any discussion, that all he was going to do was throw around accusations and insults, that he was never going to provide any evidence, and after repeated warnings to at least try to show his claims to be true.  And also, none of his comments have been deleted.

or even arrest me

Believe it or not, being a member of the Museum of Hoaxes does not confer the legal right to arrest and jail people.  Some people on the Forum might be police and could thus arrest you if you do something illegal, but if so it’s not anybody who I know.  I suppose that the rest of us could try some sort of “citizen’s arrest”, but I’m not clear on what the legality of such an act is and we’d have to be able to justify our actions to a judge at some point.

to prove that ruthless power is always right…

So now you’re saying that if you are arrested, then it proves that you are in the wrong?  What odd notions you have.

What can I say - whatever makes you happy ... does not make you smarter.

A point that you might want to consider when you next feel the temptation to blithely pretend that we never presented various bits of information to you, simply because it upsets your notions.

Again, WayToGo provides no proof or evidence that stands up, fails to refute any points that we raise. . .and shows himself to be dishonest.  Not looking good for him, is it?

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Posted: 11 December 2007 04:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 101 ]
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WayToGo’s seventh post, comment no. 77:

Read carefully what I wrote - if you are a Jew/Mason - you are a NOT normal human.

How so?  Following Judaism or joining the Masons is a voluntary act, not necessarily something you are born into.  You can be a non-Mason one day, and then a Mason the next.  So do you suddenly change somehow when that happens?  You mutate overnight?  Back up your statement, WayToGo.  If you can.

We don’t have to prove anything, WayToGo.

No, you prove to US that you’re correct. That’s what you get when you make insane accusations- you have to prove it. It is not up to us to disprove your ludicrous beliefs.

The above quotes are typical Jewish responds when they got caught.

The above quotes are pretty much what you’ve been saying, WayToGo.  The main difference being that the people who made the above quotations (and many of the rest of us, too) have been backing up our statements with specific facts and bits of information.  You, on the other hand, have refused to.

Where did you find a thing I believe in? In your hallucinations?

Ummmm. . .no, we found them in all the comments you posted where you said what your beliefs were.

Thus, Jews and Masons, you lost because you have nothing concrete against me.

See, here’s one of your beliefs.

It happens to be a false belief, though, since we did provide plenty of concrete evidence (numbers, dates, quotations, et cetera) against some of your points.  Others of your points we can’t provide concrete evidence against because you haven’t made clear what your points are.  It’s hard to argue against something when the other person hasn’t made plain what his arguments are.

I know you BELIEVE that I do not have concrete evidences/logic, but it’s easy to check if anyone who has common sense will compare your posts with what I wrote.

Here you are, expressing another one of your beliefs.  You believe that you know something.

In this case, your belief is true (at least regarding me).  I really do believe that you don’t have concrete evidence (there’s no such thing as concrete logic) backing you up.  This is because I looked through what you’ve said, and you don’t have any concrete evidence.  As I have pointed out repeatedly, and shown to you repeatedly.

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Posted: 11 December 2007 04:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 102 ]
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WayToGo’s seventh post, comment no. 77 continued:

Here we came to the point of the nature of typical Jewish/masonic brain and its capability to understand. Do you know how many Jews Ashkenazi have amavotic idiocy (Tay-Sachs disease), adult form?

Note: In actual fact t– according to Dr. Aubrey Milunsky and others Amaurotic familial idiocy or Tay-Sachs disease is common among Ashkenazi Jews (e.g. 98% of New York Jews are Ashkenazi), in adult form it first appears in life, between the teens and the 30s (Aubrey Milunsky, “Know Your Genes”, 1979); other Jewish genetic diseases: Gaucher disease, Niemann-Pick disease, Bloom syndrome, factor XI deficiency,

Here we have WayToGo wandering off into an irrelevant tangent that’s basically nothing more than an attempted attack on everybody who asked him why he thinks what he thinks.  It doesn’t provide any evidence at all for his claims.

That’s explains why government of/by/for Masons and elite Jews does what it can in order to turn Americans to be stupid obeying sheep (to be more stupid that their masters).

Now he’s claiming that the people who have managed to orchestrate a huge and successful conspiracy for thousands of years, who have planned out incredibly devious plots that successfully came to fruition, who are able to plan things out thousands of years in advance. . .are mentally incapacitated.  Again, his claims are contradicting.

Are my critics trying to prove by baseless replies that they have exactly the above disease or the below pointed mental disorders ?

Nope.  That’s why we’re not making baseless replies.

The result of the program of making Americans stupid:

(August 16, 2005)—A new study by Harvard University and the National Institute of Mental Health claims that 46 percent of all Americans will, at some point in their lives, develop a mental disorder.
http://www.healthyplace.com/news_2005/mental_illness.asp

And what are they considering “mental disorders”?  Let’s look at the study:  “According to experts, severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia, dementia and manic depression are relatively uncommon. But the updated Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (search), or DSM — the standard survey for mental illness — lists conditions like adjustment disorder, passive-aggressive disorder and female sexual arousal disorder as mental illness. . .“.  Arachnaphobia is classified as a mental disorder.  Some forms of sexual impotency are classified as mental disorders.  Anorexia is classified as a mental disorder.  “Mental disorder” does not equal “raving lunatic” or even “incapable of rational thought”.  The very article you link to says that such severe mental disorders are actually incredibly rare.  Nor does the article say that people are born with the mental disorders; it says that they will develop them at some point in their lives.  It could be when they are 90 years old.  So many if not most of these people will have a good long part of their lives without mental disorders.

Is it an amazing “coincidence” that the same 46 percent of all Americans also support G.W. Bush? Are all of them the above mentioned 46% Americans with mental disorders?

Respectively 54 percent of all Americans disapproving the war in Iraq. Does it mean that they are just not crazy despite the effort of Bush and his bosses?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_100906.htm

Do 46% support Bush?  Who says?  You link to a poll, and it does show that 46% approve of him. . .in January 2006.  There is no one individual result for that question.  For most of the other times when they were polled, it wasn’t 46%.  So one time 46% support Bush, ninety one times it’s more or less than 46%.  In order for your suggestion that 46% of the people have mental disorders and thus support Bush while 54% don’t support him because they don’t have mental disorders to be true, you’d have to be seeing the same general numbers in every poll.  You don’t.  So your idea is completely false in that regard.  It is also wrong in its implied suggestion that anybody with a mental disorder is automatically incapable of rational thought.

Also, you’re factually wrong on your “54%“ claim.  The actual number, as shown in that poll you linked to, is 64%.  Great job on your research there.  Also, your idea with that is based on the assumption that all 54% of people who don’t end up with mental disorders are fully aware of what’s going on and capable of making good decisions.  I’ve seen plenty of people who were fully rational, lacking in any obvious mental disorder, yet making stupid choices.

So again, WayToGo doesn’t provide any actual evidence suggesting his conspiracy theory is right, much less offer any definite proof.  And once again, WayToGo demonstrates all manner of factual errors and logical fallacies.  He has yet to give any evidence or proof that shows him to be right, or to disprove or refute and of the evidence that we have given against specific points he has raised.

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Posted: 11 December 2007 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 103 ]
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Mmmm… Nothing like a warm hot cup of cocoa next to the burning ruins of some idiot’s wild conspiracy theories…

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Posted: 12 December 2007 05:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 104 ]
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I am pretty sure WayToGo is among those 46%....

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Posted: 13 December 2007 08:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 105 ]
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I think part of my problem with all this is that it doesn’t feel like discussing a true conspiracy theory. It feels like entertaining the rants of a racist.

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So I can just type anything and it will show up here?

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Posted: 13 December 2007 08:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 106 ]
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Stargazer - 13 December 2007 08:21 AM

I think part of my problem with all this is that it doesn’t feel like discussing a true conspiracy theory. It feels like entertaining the rants of a racist.


Well it’s not like we’re electing him Fuhrer.

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Posted: 13 December 2007 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 107 ]
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No, I know. It just feels a little icky.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 02:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 108 ]
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true.. But if we just ignore him, he’ll keep on ranting, and saying all sorts of crap. If we just ban him for his views, he gets to have a martyr complex and takes that as ‘proof’ the world is against him.However, if we sit down and issue forth well-reasoned, logical debate.. He’s revealed as having not a single bit of evidence to back up his complains. When confronted like that, as we have seen, such people tend to shrivel and back out of the room mumbling about dental appointments.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 109 ]
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WayToGo’s eighth post, comment no. 81:

1) Albert Einstein no more stole his ideas that Newton stole those of Hooke, Aristotle and Leibniz, or Kepler stole those of Copernicus.

Almost verbal repetition is not stealing?

You seem unable to grasp a very basic aspect of science (and of life in general, for that matter).  A scientist does not generally completely on his own develop the entire known field of human knowledge before going on to come up with new ideas.  Instead, he learns what work other people have done in whatever field he’s working in, and then tries to take that work on another step further.  If one person has discovered a new fundamental particle of matter, the next person uses that information and tries to figure out what that particle did.

Maxwell made some discoveries in the 1800’s.  Lorentz looked at Maxwell’s work and added his own refinements.  Poincaré looked at what work Lorentz had accomplished and added his own ideas to it.  Einstein went and used their work to come up with his own unique additions.  Nor was all information that Maxwell used totally derived by himself; he used the work of others as well.  So by your definition of “stealing”, WayToGo, every single scientist since well before the days of Archimedes was a thief.

And so are you.  You admitted so yourself.  You said that you looked at the work that other people had done, examined the research performed by other people, analysed it, and came to your conclusions.  This is exactly what people such as Einstein and Lorentz and all the rest did and still do.  So by your own logic and definitions, you declare yourself to be a thieving and lying Jew/Mason.  Your own “logic” speaks out against you.

In reality, Einstein looked at other people’s work and came up with his own individual interpretations and conclusions.  The preliminary information was not his, it is true, but his conclusions were.  For example, he looked at Poincaré‘s works, where Poincaré had gotten stuck in a perpetuum mobile paradox. . .and he resolved the paradox.

Quantum Theory: Albert Einstein
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/quantum-theory-albert-einstein-quotes.htm

Albert Einstein (1905) used Planck’s relationship to explain the results of the photoelectric effect which showed that the energy E of ejected electrons was dependent upon the frequency f of incident light as described in the equation E=hf. It is ironic that in 1921 Albert Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize for this discovery, though he never believed in particles and acknowledged that he did not know the cause of the discrete energy transfers (photons) which were contradictory to his continuous field theory of matter!
In 1954 Albert Einstein wrote to his friend Michael Besso expressing his frustration;

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, ‘What are light quanta?‘ Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

Most importantly, Albert Einstein also suspected that Matter could not be described by a continuous spherical force field;

I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

And none of the above says anything whatsoever about any sort of a Jewish conspiracy, or even that Einstein didn’t come up with his own ideas.  At best it might show that Einstein was wrong on occasion.  So what?  Who isn’t?  All the people who you are claiming really came up with Einstein’s theories were also wrong on occasion.  Poincaré and Lorentz believed in the aether theory, for example, which is now considered to be disproved.  So all the above information about Einstein is really irrelevant.

I have too many pages about the biggest thief (thieves) of intellectual property, but I am here not to discuses what and how Einstein had stole.

Then why did you keep bringing him up?

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 110 ]
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WayToGo’s ninth post, comment no. 88:

You do not understand what Godwin’s law is.  It was pointed out to you.  Madmouse provided a link to it in her original post and you, somehow, conveniently removed the link when you quoted her.

I see - just saying that I do not understand the Godwin’s law without any facts is the only proof you have.

Proof of what?  Tah was pointing out that you didn’t know what Godwin’s law was about.  The facts and proof of that were clear enough:  you used it in the completely wrong context, a link was provided (which you tried to pretend was never there) showing the derivation and meaning of the law and clearly showing that it did not fit in to the context in which you used it, and general knowledge of Godwin’s law also indicates that you used it in a totally improper context.  Tah (and Madmouse) successfully proved that you didn’t know what Godwin’s law was.

That’s “smart” and it’s typical too.

If knowing what you’re talking about and providing specific and detailed evidence is typical, then why don’t you try it as well?

Of course nothing is wrong when with the claim that only a Jew/Mason like me can question the Origins of the Jews, Holocaust, the Bible/Torah, ..., right?

Wait. . .now WayToGo is saying that he’s a member of the conspiracy?  What is he going on about here?  Who is making this claim?

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