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Posted: 15 November 2007 08:00 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Not that 99% of you will care, but Colossus is back.  Where’s Dr Forbin when you need him?

For the first time in more than 60 years a Colossus computer is cracking codes at Bletchley Park.

The machine is being put through its paces to mark the end of a project to rebuild the pioneering computer.

It is being used to crack messages enciphered using the same system employed by the German high command during World War II.

The Colossus is pitted against modern PC technology which will also try to read the scrambled messages.

Colossus is widely recognised as being one of the first recognisably modern digital computers and was developed to read messages sent by the German commanders during the closing years of WWII.

It was one of the first ever programmable computers and featured more than 2,000 valves and was the size of a small lorry.
The re-built Colossus will be put to work on intercepted radio messages transmitted by radio amateurs in Paderborn, Germany that have been scrambled using a Lorenz SZ42 machine - as used by the German high command in wartime.

The German participants in the code-cracking challenge will transmit three enciphered messages - one hard, one very hard and one ultra hard.

Speaking to the BBC, Andy Clark, one of the founders of the Trust for the National Museum of Computing, said radio problems had stopped the challenge getting under way on time.

“The radio path has not been particularly good between Germany and here,” he said. “We are at a bad point in the sunspot cycle.”

Signals had improved throughout the day, he added, and he hoped to get 100% of the ciphertext - the code - through soon.

The Colossus machine will be pitted against modern computer technology that will also be used to decipher and read the transmitted messages.

Tony Sale, who led the 14-year Colossus re-build project, said it was not clear whether the wartime technology or a modern PC would be faster at cracking the codes.

“A virtual Colossus written to run on a Pentium 2 laptop takes about the same time to break a cipher as Colossus does,” he said.

It was so fast, he said, because it was a single purpose processor rather than one put to many general purposes like modern desktop computers.

Mr Sale it could be Friday before the teams find out if they have managed to read the enciphered messages correctly.

Re-building the pioneering machine took so long because all 10 Colossus machines were broken up after the war in a bid to keep their workings secret. When he started the re-build all Mr Sale had to work with were a few photographs of the machine.

In its heyday Colossus could break messages in a matter of hours and, said Mr Sale, proved its worth time and time again by revealing the details of Germany’s battle plans.

“It was extremely important in the build up to D-Day,” said Mr Sale. “It revealed troop movements, the state of supplies, state of ammunition, numbers of dead soldiers - vitally important information for the whole of the second part of the war.”

This, and the other information revealed by the code-cracking effort at Bletchley, helped to shorten the war by at least 18 months, said Mr Sale.

The Cipher Challenge is also being used to mark the start of a major fund-raising drive for the fledgling National Museum of Computing. The Museum will be based at Bletchley and Colossus will form the centre-piece of its exhibits.

Colossus has a place in the history of computing not just because of the techniques used in its construction. Many of those that helped build it, in particular Tommy Flowers and Tommy Kilburn, went on to do work that directly led to the computers in use today.

The Museum said it needed to raise about £6m to safeguard the future of the historic computers it has collected.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7094881.stm

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Posted: 15 November 2007 09:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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THERE IS ANOTHER SYSTEM…

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Posted: 15 November 2007 09:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Eh, Colossus wasn’t that bad.  I don’t look forward to the aliens, though.  That was just plain weird.

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Posted: 15 November 2007 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Oh yes, I’d forgotten about them…
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Posted: 15 November 2007 02:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I thought you were talking about Colossus


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Posted: 16 November 2007 03:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Reminds me of Rhodes.  Ahhhhhhh the good old days.

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Posted: 17 November 2007 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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A German computer guy cracked the code used by the Germans in WW2.  He wrote his own program and accomplished the feat before the Colossus (a reconstruction of the original) computer managed it.  This guy has a future in some military intelligence department.

German amateur cracks WWII mega-code in 46 seconds

LONDON (Reuters) - British computer experts acknowledged defeat on Friday after a German amateur radio enthusiast won a challenge to crack secret messages encoded by a World War Two cipher.

Joachim Schueth, from the German city of Bonn, managed to intercept a special radio transmission and decipher a super-complex code in less than two hours using software he wrote for the challenge.

Britain’s Colossus computer, built in the 1940s to break secret German transmissions during the war and painstakingly rebuilt over the past 14 years, was still racing through its computations to come up with a solution.

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Posted: 17 November 2007 10:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Merged Gray’s thread with Chary’s. smile

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Posted: 18 November 2007 12:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Smerk - 17 November 2007 10:21 PM

Merged Gray’s thread with Chary’s. smile

Good plan.  Even though I posted in Chary’s thread already I had forgotten all about it when I posted mine.  Sigh.  I gotta get more sleep.

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Posted: 18 November 2007 04:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I wonder about all our back and forth messages via computer, radio, tv, telephones swimming out into space..(does internet stuff flow out there though?  I mean, like radio waves?  I haven’t a clue).  I do wonder though how far all this travels (has nothing to do with Earthlings cracking codes of other Earthlings) and how confused OffEarthlings might be by all our chattering and visual garbage….(if they’re even out there)...

But then, it might all hit the curved walls of the Universe and start bouncing back to us eventually in about 10 zillion years and thoroughly confuse OUR offspring. 

Someone crack my code and tell me please what I mean?

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Posted: 18 November 2007 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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hulitoons - 18 November 2007 04:51 AM

I wonder about all our back and forth messages via computer, radio, tv, telephones swimming out into space..(does internet stuff flow out there though?  I mean, like radio waves?  I haven’t a clue).

Yup, it does.  All these wireless systems are broadcasting online stuff all over the place, and any really long-distance or overseas communication these days, whether telephone or Internet or television, is likely to be bounced up to and down from satellites.

I do wonder though how far all this travels (has nothing to do with Earthlings cracking codes of other Earthlings) and how confused OffEarthlings might be by all our chattering and visual garbage….(if they’re even out there)...

But then, it might all hit the curved walls of the Universe and start bouncing back to us eventually in about 10 zillion years and thoroughly confuse OUR offspring. 

Someone crack my code and tell me please what I mean?

Pretty much all of our communications that we’re broadcasting are sent off into space, dashing away at the speed of light.  It will probably keep on going until it hits something that it can’t get through.  Marconi’s 1901 cross-Atlantic radio transmission is probably currently still moving along some 106 light-years away.  And 62 light-years away are all the messages about the end of World War Two.  A telephone call you made in August 2003 is currently reaching the nearest star to our own sun.

Of course, these signals are mostly going to be extremely weak and would be quite hard for anybody to pick up.  But they’re out there, and any residents of Alpha Centauri have had over a hundred of our years to work on their own computers to translate our languages.  Poor aliens. . .

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Accipiter - 18 November 2007 01:33 PM
hulitoons - 18 November 2007 04:51 AM

I wonder about all our back and forth messages via computer, radio, tv, telephones swimming out into space..(does internet stuff flow out there though?  I mean, like radio waves?  I haven’t a clue).

Yup, it does.  All these wireless systems are broadcasting online stuff all over the place, and any really long-distance or overseas communication these days, whether telephone or Internet or television, is likely to be bounced up to and down from satellites.

I do wonder though how far all this travels (has nothing to do with Earthlings cracking codes of other Earthlings) and how confused OffEarthlings might be by all our chattering and visual garbage….(if they’re even out there)...

But then, it might all hit the curved walls of the Universe and start bouncing back to us eventually in about 10 zillion years and thoroughly confuse OUR offspring. 

Someone crack my code and tell me please what I mean?

Pretty much all of our communications that we’re broadcasting are sent off into space, dashing away at the speed of light.  It will probably keep on going until it hits something that it can’t get through.  Marconi’s 1901 cross-Atlantic radio transmission is probably currently still moving along some 106 light-years away.  And 62 light-years away are all the messages about the end of World War Two.  A telephone call you made in August 2003 is currently reaching the nearest star to our own sun.

Of course, these signals are mostly going to be extremely weak and would be quite hard for anybody to pick up.  But they’re out there, and any residents of Alpha Centauri have had over a hundred of our years to work on their own computers to translate our languages.  Poor aliens. . .

Imagine when they get our War of the Worlds broadcast. They’ll either believe it or have the greatest respect for us for being able to take it in jest.

Then they’ll get the reports about how areas of the States went mental and panicked and they’ll lose all that respect for us.

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