Accipiter - 05 December 2007 02:08 PM

One of the symbols of the Masons is a letter “G” (which stands for “God”, and possibly other things) under a compass.

Yes, I did wonder why, if AM was going to drag the masons into this, he didn’t immediately go for the compass (used to draw circles), and instead picked the most conspicuously un-flowery symbol he could find?

andymonk - 07 December 2007 08:13 AM

The complete flower of life is THEE template!  If you cant see the image,look here,its been added to this article.   http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm

No, it’s not.  First off, you’re arbitrarily drawing lines connecting only the points that you want to connect on your FoL to make something vaguely resembling the Mason symbol.  But there’s nothing making those points you connected stand out.  Instead of the FoL leading naturally to the Mason symbol, which would be the case if it was the template, you’re forcing the Mason symbol into the FoL.

Besides which, it doesn’t even make the Mason symbol properly.  It lacks part of the G, making only a C at best (and a rather angular one at that).  Plus, the angles of the compass and the measure are completely wrong.

So overall, you’re forcing a shape that’s only vaguely like the Mason’s symbol arbitrarily into the Flower of Life.

David B. - 07 December 2007 09:23 AM

Yes, I did wonder why, if AM was going to drag the masons into this, he didn’t immediately go for the compass (used to draw circles), and instead picked the most conspicuously un-flowery symbol he could find?

I suppose his thoughts couldn’t encompass the idea. 

Accipiter - 05 December 2007 02:08 PM

Renquist - 05 December 2007 01:51 PM

Yeah, we can’t access it without being members of that forum.

And what the hell is a G in Freemasonry?

One of the symbols of the Masons is a letter “G” (which stands for “God”, and possibly other things) under a compass.

Note how closely and exactly and conspicuously the letter “G” doesn’t look at all like Andymonk’s flower of life.

Now this may be my memory or it might be a regional thing, but doesn’t the All Seeing Eye go under the compass?

Not being a Mason I couldn’t say for sure but I seem to remember the Eye being there. It might be a local thing though.

Renquist - 07 December 2007 09:48 AM

Now this may be my memory or it might be a regional thing, but doesn’t the All Seeing Eye go under the compass?

Not being a Mason I couldn’t say for sure but I seem to remember the Eye being there. It might be a local thing though.

According to what I’ve seen about them, they seem to have different “Grand Lodges” that have control over all the various lesser lodges in their geographical area.  Perhaps the Glasgow or the Scottish Grand Lodge has the eye as part of a symbol unique to them?

Doing an image search in Google for “freemason symbol”, the only time I see any sort of an eye in connection with the compass and square is in one image on the first page of results.  It shows the eye floating above the compass, with the G inside the compass.

I used to have a spirograph when I was a kid.  I got some really cool designs out of that too.   

Accipiter - 07 December 2007 10:03 AM

Renquist - 07 December 2007 09:48 AM

Now this may be my memory or it might be a regional thing, but doesn’t the All Seeing Eye go under the compass?

Not being a Mason I couldn’t say for sure but I seem to remember the Eye being there. It might be a local thing though.

According to what I’ve seen about them, they seem to have different “Grand Lodges” that have control over all the various lesser lodges in their geographical area.  Perhaps the Glasgow or the Scottish Grand Lodge has the eye as part of a symbol unique to them?

Doing an image search in Google for “freemason symbol”, the only time I see any sort of an eye in connection with the compass and square is in one image on the first page of results.  It shows the eye floating above the compass, with the G inside the compass.

Well Scotland is heavily connected to Freemasonry (one of the biggest branches actually being Scottish Rite Freemasonry) so it’s entirely possible the stuff I’ve seen is some off-shoot. Or maybe I’m just not remembering correctly.

But I looked it up on Google Image search, I couldn’t find any picturs with an eye at all! And let me tell you- even if I’m wrong and there’s no eye in the compass, all the Masonic paraphanalia I’ve seen has been the compass, the mitre and the all seeing eye. Definately must be different branches of it.

Renquist - 07 December 2007 07:52 PM

But I looked it up on Google Image search, I couldn’t find any picturs with an eye at all! And let me tell you- even if I’m wrong and there’s no eye in the compass, all the Masonic paraphanalia I’ve seen has been the compass, the mitre and the all seeing eye. Definately must be different branches of it.

Mm hmm.

*Scribbles notes*

And what proof, exactly, do you have of this conspiracy theory?

Tah - 07 December 2007 09:25 PM

Renquist - 07 December 2007 07:52 PM

But I looked it up on Google Image search, I couldn’t find any picturs with an eye at all! And let me tell you- even if I’m wrong and there’s no eye in the compass, all the Masonic paraphanalia I’ve seen has been the compass, the mitre and the all seeing eye. Definately must be different branches of it.

Mm hmm.

*Scribbles notes*

And what proof, exactly, do you have of this conspiracy theory?

The fact that Google is run by…wait for it…NON-MASONIC JEWS!!!

Yeah! That’s right bitch! NON-MASON Jews run Google and have stopped you from seeing THE TRUTH!!! Like how you can’t find pictures of tanks in Tiannamen Square in Chinese Google!

They’ve removed the REAL TRUE Mason iconography from Google to keep you all in the dark! WHY? Becuase Jews can’t be Masons! Yeah! That’s right! This is their revenge! Stopping you from seeing the REAL symobls of Freemasonry! You never knew the All-Seeing Eye was in there, did you? No!

PROVE ME WRONG!!!

*proves both Tah and Renquist wrong, then hides the proof*

At its highest level the G(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to trace out any known alphabet.

andymonk - 08 December 2007 05:59 AM

At its highest level the G(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to draw out any known alphabet.

Like join-the-dots?

If you can draw out a symbol from any known alphabet on the FoL then what makes the ‘G’ so special? Surely that would make any letter at all special? I mean, if EVERY symbol on earth could be drawn over the FoL (and let’s face it, you can say the same thing of a sheet of graph paper. You can draw anything over that as well) then by them all being ‘special’, none of them are. If they all represent something then the frequency of this fact makes it redundant.