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HOLOGRAPHIC DISCS: LifeWave in sheep’s clothing?
Posted: 16 June 2007 11:02 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I’ve been posting too much on Warren Hanchey’s new venture on the LifeWave thread. Perhaps we can discuss the obvious scam similarities here?

Dave

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Posted: 16 June 2007 11:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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http://www.naturalbalancing.com/recommended.html

http://www.zeroquantum.com

Warren Hanchey
7825 Fay Ave, Suite 210, La Jolla, CA., 92037, (858)228-7613
email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

“This is a fabulous new company that has the latest technology of imprinted holographic data discs.

Discover this easy, gentle, pill-less way of getting nutrients and energy in the body so you can detox, sleep, feel more energetic, slim down, and decrease pain!

The website has testimonials and studies which show how the data discs can change the meridian energy flow in a matter of seconds after application on the skin. I should know! I conducted some of the studies with the LSA. The results are amazing and I use these data discs with my patients to facilitate a healing response.

Learn more about it and the opportunities that zeroquantum has available. I am so privileged to meet people with such brilliant technology that can change how we improve our health.

With the threat to our freedom of choice for supplements and alternative care ever present, it is refreshing to see this technology as a way of the future!”

Holy cow, our freedoms are being threatened!

Buy Now!

Mmmm, 7825 Fay Ave, Suite 210, La Jolla, CA., 92037, (858)228-7613 sounds familiar.


LifeWave
San Diego Corporate Address
1020 Prospect, Suite 200
La Jolla, CA 92037


http://www.google.com/maps?q=7825+Fay+Ave,+La+Jolla,+CA+92037,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title

Just around the corner from Prospect. How convenient.

“www.zeroquantum.com” is a dead end. Warren seems to have changed his mind to:

http://www.8ight.com/

And for other opinions on Holographic sticker scams:

http://wwsnforums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=159&sid=b96229cde90428f37f6ad1e5e1313398

Cheers, Bob.

Dave

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Posted: 17 June 2007 01:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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4ubest

The long running LifeWave Hoax thread is here:

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/2526/P4220/

Cheers,
Dave

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Posted: 17 June 2007 01:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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4ubest - 17 June 2007 02:42 PM

Dave,

Where is the LifeWave thread that you are speaking about as I have some comments to add.

  Thank you


Oh, you’ve gone an done it now.  That thread’ll suck ya in!  Good luck.

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Posted: 17 June 2007 02:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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More fascinating information from Rich Lang.

http://www.holographicenergy.com/html/action_hologram.html

“Do not wear more than two holograms at a time.”

This statement implies the discs not only work well, they can work too well if you use three or more. A simple trick used by David Schmidt and his LifeWave patches.

“Holographic Data Disc

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Posted: 17 June 2007 02:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Damn, this guy is good at marketing!

Maybe we can form a company, and get those holograms available to Medical establishments everywhere!

(As soon as anyone mentions ‘detoxification’ in a promotion, you can be sure it is a scam.  The body simply does not store toxins, it processes them and then eliminates them.  ‘Trapped toxins’ was a concept of the early 20th century, promoted by well-meaning people; they thought toxins were trapped along the lower regions of the colon, and eating grain-foods and having high-colonics [enemas] was the cure. 

Modern colonostomies, where they insert a TV camera up your bottom and push it way up there [I thought it pretty humiliating, but the nurse was pretty], anyway, modern medicine has shown that the concept of stored toxins just is not true.

We don’t store toxins in our body fat, or organs, or pianos for that matter, either.)

But sure an interesting post!

Dan, not a storehouse of toxins, but still pretty full of ‘it’

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Posted: 17 June 2007 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Dan Jr.

That silly foot bath for the release of toxins was also uncovered as a scam.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=567466

The water changed color even if your feet were NOT in it!

I continue to be amazed at how easy it is to dupe people.

If I didn’t have any scruples I could become very wealthy with all the tricks I have been picking up from David Schmidt etc.

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Posted: 17 June 2007 08:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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EDHUK - 17 June 2007 07:17 PM

Dan Jr.

That silly foot bath for the release of toxins was also uncovered as a scam.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=567466

The water changed color even if your feet were NOT in it!

I continue to be amazed at how easy it is to dupe people.

If I didn’t have any scruples I could become very wealthy with all the tricks I have been picking up from David Schmidt etc.

!

I know!  We need a pill to help us ignore our conscience, then we could really make some money!


Dan, going ‘hhmmmmmmmm…....’

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Posted: 17 June 2007 10:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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So, back in the day at LifeWave we have Warren Hanchey:

“Using the power of the new Spectravision device, Warren Hanchey and his team were able to show before and after results of using the LifeWave patches. Warren excitedly reported: “The conference attendees were blown away with the power of LifeWave”.

Presumably the money wasn’t good enough in the LifeWave scam, hence the new scam:

Also, back in the day we have info. courtesy jerseylamb at SCAM.com about Mr Hanchey’s other “baggage”.

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=3507

What a tangled web we weave…

From bankruptcy to this:

http://www.8ight.com/

America…Land of the Free.


Such modest goals:

“We are committed to the holistic approach to health and wellness and our responsibility to assist with the science of holographic communication.”

Responsible and scam don’t come together in my mind!

“Research shows that formulated holograms can stimulate acupuncture points in the body much the same way as acupuncture needles positively impact the human body.”

Just like LifeWave the “research shows” ploy. 

Presumably the scientifically conducted verifiable and repeatable studies will be available sometime in the next 10 years!


“We firmly believe that our success is dependent on integrity, honesty,...”

What a beautiful sentiment, however in they TRULY believed it they WOULD NOT BE IN BUSINESS!

“8ight LLC is a privately held marketing company that sales holographic products from Zero Quantum LLC.  President and owner of 8ight LLC is Michelle Hanchey.”

Nice one Warren, got it in the wife’s name?

http://www.naturalbalancing.com/recommended.html

As I mentioned above, the Zero Quantum is a dead end.

Isn’t business fun!

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Posted: 18 June 2007 12:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Well, very nice posting, Edhuk.

I should talk, I fell for the ‘Herbalife’ sales pitch and actually became quite involved in it, until I finally saw through it almost 2 years later.

My wife and I workd our butts off!

All the products contained herbs, which Mark Hughes, the charismatic movie-star-good-looking founder, included in all the products, to help with the absorption and efficacy of his supplements and diet powders.  (Now deceased, Mark Hughes died from a coma induced by a combination of alcohol and depression medication, though in fairness, his blood alcohol content was only around .09 or so.)

After a while, I came to realize I was simply a snake-oil salesman, and got ou\t of the business, ashamed of myself, but truly innocent of the errors of my ways until I became interested in health on my own, and began reading.

It turns out the guiding ‘genius’ behind Herbalife (Mark was the marketer / promoter) was one Dr. Marconi, who received his doctorate in ‘pharmaconacy’, from what was acknowledged by Marconi in Senate hearings to be a diploma mill.  My dog could have gotten a doctorate there, had she submitted a check and a properly filled-out application.

Anyway, scams abound, don’t they?

Dan, consulting my lucky mood-watch, which tells me it is time to go play lotto

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Posted: 18 June 2007 12:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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EDHUK - 17 June 2007 03:26 AM

LifeWave
San Diego Corporate Address
1020 Prospect, Suite 200
La Jolla, CA 92037


http://www.google.com/maps?q=7825+Fay+Ave,+La+Jolla,+CA+92037,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title

Just around the corner from Prospect. How convenient.

Whoa!!  I use to work just around the corner from them on prospect and Ivanhoe.  I wish I had known.  I would have paid them a visit to check out their offices.  Too bad I moved to AZ only 3 weeks ago.  Damn it.

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Posted: 18 June 2007 12:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Looks like Warren Hanchey learned a thing or two about running scams from scam master David Schmidt, and then figured, “Why should David Schmidt make all the money and I be just a paid employee,” so Hanchey started his own scam that closely mirrors the Lifewave B.S.  Perhaps we’ll soon see something posted on Hanchey’s site about how he spent 10 years researching his amazing holographic data disc technology, after originally being invited by the Navy to invent new technologies for secret submarine programs.  Would Hanchey be that shameless?

Holographic data discs.  What a hoot!

I guess after enjoying a front row seat to the workings of the LifeWave scam, Warren Hanchey took to heart the old saying:  “Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the American people.”

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