Mickey Mouse in Pluto (from the LifeWave patches thread) is very keen to make this point, but not quite sure how to start a new thread.

Just for you Mickey.

Cheers.

What do you include under your heading of DRUG?

Sounds like a straw man argument in the making.  I would guess that most drugs aren’t supposed to cure anything, but are meant to alleviate symptoms.  (For instance, an epileptic who can control seizure activity with dilantin or whatever surely isn’t cured of epilepsy, but has a much better life without seizures.)

FWIW—what about a successful course of chemotherapy?  If it eradicates the cancer, isn’t that a cure?  Ditto antibiotics that successfully kill a pathogen?

Don’t tell me, Mickey Mouse in Pluto is a “holistic” type who doesn’t believe in “germ theory”, isn’t he?

2-deoxycoformycin:  hairy cell leukemia

5-Fluorouracil:  breast cancer

Altretamine:  ovarian cancer

Amikacin:  tuberculosis

Amoxicillin:  Salmonella infection

Amphotericin B desoxycholate:  cryptococcosis

Ampicillin:  Monocytogenal meningitis

Amsacrine:  cancer

Anagrelide hydrochloride:  polycythemia vera

Azathioprine:  cancer

Azithromycin:  syphillis

Benzathine benzpenicillin:  syphillis

Benzylpenicillin:  Meningococcal meningitis

Betadine:  pharyngitis

Busulfan:  acute myelogenous leukemia

Capreomycin:  tuberculosis

Carboplastin:  lung cancer

Carboplastin:  oroparyngeal cancer

Carmustine:  brain tumour

Cefdinir:  pneumonia

Cefotaxime:  Pneumococcal menengitis

Ceftriaxone:  Haemophilal meningitis

Chlorambucil:  cancer

Chloramphenicol: typhoid

Ciprofloxacin:  tuberculosis

Cisplatin:  bladder cancer

Clavulin:  Moraxella catarrhalis otitis media infection

Cyclophospamide:  acute myelogenous leukemia

Cycloserine:  tuberculosis

Cysteamine bitartrate:  nephropathic cystinosis

Cytarabine:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Dacarbazine:  soft tissue sarcoma

Dactinomycin:  cancer

Daunorubicin:  Kaposi’s sarcoma

Dexamethasone:  lymph node tumours

Docetaxel:  lung cancer

Doxorubicin:  bladder cancer

Drotrecogin alfa:  APACHE II+ septicaemia

Enviomycin:  tuberculosis

Estramustine:  stage IV prostate cancer

Ethambutol:  tuberculosis

Ethionamide:  tuberculosis

Etoposide:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Etoposide phosphate:  cancer

Finasteride:  prostate cancer

Fluconazole:  yeast athelete’s foot

Foscavir:  retinitis

Gemcitabine:  advanced adenocarcinomal pancreatic cancer

Gemtuzumab ozogmicin:  leukemia

Gentamicin:  septicaemia

Goserelin:  cancer

Griseofulvin:  fungal athelete’s foot

Hexylmethylmelamine:  ovarian cancer

Hydroxurea:  brain tumour

Idarubicin:  acute myelogenous leukemia

Ifofamide:  soft tissue sarcoma

Iridium:  stage IV prostate cancer

Irinotecan:  cervical cancer

Isoniazid:  tuberculosis

Itraconazole:  pulmonary histoplasmosis

Kanamycin:  tuberculosis

L-Asparaginase:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Leucovorin:  breast cancer

Leokovorin:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Lomustine:  brain tumour

Mechloethamine:  cancer

Mercaptopurine:  cancer

Mesna:  soft tissue sarcoma

Methotrexate:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Miconazole:  fungal athlete’s foot

Mitotane:  adrenocortical carcinoma

Mitoxantrone:  acute myelogenous leukemia

Moxifloxacin:  tuberculosis

Neosalvarsan:  early stage syphillis

Oxaliplatin:  cancer

P-aminosalicyclic acid:  tuberculosis

Paclitaxel:  breast cancer

Palladium:  stage IV prostate cancer

Penicillin:  gonorrhea

Phenoxymethylpenicillin:  pharyngitis

Potassium clavulanate:  Klebsiella infection

Prednisone:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Procaine benzylpenicillin:  erysipelas

Procarbazine:  brain tumour

Prontosil:  septicaemia

Prothionamide:  tuberculosis

Pyrazinamide:  tuberculosis

Quinupristin:  Enterococcus faecium infection

Rifampicin:  tuberculosis

Streptokinase:  arterial thrombosis

Streptomycin:  tuberculosis

Streptozocin:  metastatic pancreatic cancer

Sucralfate:  duodenal ulcers

Sulbactam sodium:  Acinobacter calcoaceticus infection

Tamoxifen:  breast cancer

Taxane:  cancer

Teniposide:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Terbinifine:  fungal athelete’s foot

Topotecan:  ovarian cancer

Trastuzumab:  breast cancer

Trimox:  Escherichia coli infection

Vancomycin:  Staphlyloccoal meningitis

Vinblastine:  cancer

Vinca alkaloids:  cancer

Vincristine:  acute lymphoblastic leukemia

Vindesine:  cancer

Vinorelbine:  lung cancer

Viomycin:  tuberculosis

Wymox:  Proteus mirabilis infection

Shall I go on?

From MediLexicon:

Drug

Type: Term

Pronunciation: drŭg

Definitions:
1. Therapeutic agent; any substance, other than food, used in the prevention, diagnosis, alleviation, treatment, or cure of disease. For types or classifications of drugs, see the specific name.
2. To administer or take a drug, usually implying an overly large quantity or a narcotic.
3. General term for any substance, stimulating or depressing, that can be habituating or addictive, especially a narcotic.

How interesting that Mickey Mouse in Pluto doesn’t seem interested in his own argument when it takes him away from the LifeWave patches scam thread.

A little predictable maybe?

A little more difficult to fudge the issues and attempt to turn the spotlight away from the scam artist Schmidt and his ridiculous patches.

?

That Kevin Trudeau crook frequently says that there are no cancer treatments that do any good, and people with cancer shouldn’t use conventional treatment but use his herbal nonsense instead.  I’m a huge proponent of the First Amendment, but to me this is akin to yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater.

JoeDaJuggler - 30 January 2007 08:08 PM

I’m a huge proponent of the First Amendment, but to me this is akin to yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater.

Falsely yelling fire, according to OWH. And his judgement was overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969. The current test is must be directed to inciting or likely to incite ‘imminent lawless action’. Unfortunately Trudeau’s actions fail this test, so would be protected.

See this is what not being ruled by a benevolent English king gets you!

JoeDaJuggler - 30 January 2007 08:08 PM

That Kevin Trudeau crook frequently says that there are no cancer treatments that do any good, and people with cancer shouldn’t use conventional treatment but use his herbal nonsense instead.  I’m a huge proponent of the First Amendment, but to me this is akin to yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater.

Herbs aren’t nonsense
but Trudeau a crook? definitely

Just a thought: has Mickey Mouse actually registered for the forum?

Keep in mind that although several things can be cured, there are several things that are still chronic.  dibetes and COPD come to mind.  And talk to cures to a wife who sees her husband dying of cancer knowing there’s only so much that can be done considering the type and where the cancer is.