EDHUK - 11 December 2007 04:16 PM

R.I.P.

SCAM artist Karma Singh, previously a YORKSHIREMAN from the UK.

Evil is good or truth misplaced.

-Mahatma Gandhi, 1933

Oh…wow…

I’m getting that creepy “sitting next to the crazy person on the subway” feeling now.

WELL, AT LEAST YOU ARE GETTING SOMETHING!

Formosa’s law

Formosa’s law is an unofficial rule of Usenet groups, coined by David Formosa, that states, “The truly insane have enough on their plates without us adding to it.” That is, flaming someone with an obvious mental problem can’t make it any better. Mr Formosa first came up with this rule for the net abuse newsgroups, which had many trolls and spammers, but also many people who got into trouble for not understanding or being able to deal with others effectively.

It is common, both on the Internet and in real life, to seek amusement by ridiculing people who spout bogus nonsense or engage in silly behavior, on the basis that they have effectively invited this ridicule by their own overt behavior, usually some combination of stupidity, hypocrisy, and pomposity, but in any case behavior that they presumably have control over. However, in some cases, the behavior is the result of actual mental illness or dysfunction, rather than mere boneheadedness or intentional misconduct. Formosa’s law states that if someone’s weird behavior is caused by an actual pathology, it is inappropriate for others to increase their suffering by adding ridicule. Instead, ridicule should be reserved for people who know better than to engage in their improper conduct.

This law is most often used as an explanation for not engaging a legitimately mentally-disturbed individual in a flamewar or hostile discussion, or encouraging such actions. It is often cited on alt.usenet.kooks as a reason not to issue a “Kook-of-the-Month Award”, and is also often cited as a companion to Godwin’s Law.

[Source]

Dave B

How interesting and very appropriate in the case of the unhappy Yorkshireman.

Thanks for the info.

To whom ever one might try to imply the above post, one can see that the author is in contradiction to himself. But maybe not?

Godwin’s Law: prov. (http://catb.org/jargon/html/F/Formosas-Law.html)
[Usenet] “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin’s Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin’s Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful. Godwin himself has discussed the subject. See also Formosa’s Law.

UseNet Rule #4 (http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/faqs/godwin.html
(also known as Godwin’s Rule, after Mike Godwin of the EFF.The “Godwin’s” part seems to stem from “Rich Rosen’s rules of Net.Debate says :
Just as there will always be newbies there will always be people who see the net and are repulsed because there’s stuff there they don’t want to see - so they set out to make sure no one else can, either. They invariably fail, because there are no net.cops to enforce any such rules on UseNet;  Bleah. “Keep your brains up top; don’t be a net.cop.”
This has mutated, in true UseNet fashion, to encompass *any* continuing thread; Invoking Rule #4 deliberately in hopes of ending a thread, however, is doomed to failure.

Rule #666: Old alt groups never die.
Rule #7-B: There is no topic so thoroughly covered that no one will ever bring it up again.
Rule #90120: Applying your standards to someone else’s post *will* result in a flamewar.
Rule #1: Spellling and grammer counts. So do grace, wit, and a sense of humor (the latter two are different), as well as a willingness to meet odd people.
Rule #3 (“Why 3?” “Because we felt like it”): For every opinion there is at
least one equally loud and opposing opinion; sometimes stated as:
Rule #27 (Gary Lewandowski): “In cyberspace, *everyone* can hear you scream.”
So, Scream.
Rule #547 (Arne Adolfsen): When people know they’re wrong they resort to ad hominems.

Ad hominem
From Wikipedia
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the man”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to divert attention from one person to another and to change the subject.

(My above post was in the response to Daveb post)

One of the cancer patients had passed today in our hospice. 4 Harmony chips were found under his bed sheets.

Back to Harmony chip.

More interesting stuff from Karma’s emails linking to it:

“HARMONY CHIP. Probably the World’s first true
healing device.
It is not alone for this reason that I have finally put all this knowledge together in one place. The tremendous suffering and death toll created by inappropriate techniques is a thing which it behoves everyone to end. This is my contribution to this goal.” (Then the list of books in different languages is offered for purchase). Then continues as:

“I cannot see how it could ever cost more than $4000.00 / £2000.00 to completely get rid of a cancer and enjoy many other benefits from your investment over the following years.

Quantum Marketing reverses completely “normal” methods:
- no longer will you seek customers - you will simply build a Quantum Doorway through which customers will seek and find you.
- no longer will you “hunt” for your perfect partner - you will build the way which automatically brings you together.
- no longer will you advertise for like-minded to people to join your club or society - you will simply call them to you.
- no longer will you be open to manipulation by liars, fraudsters, tricksters, politicians and the like - you will instantly know when something is false.
- no longer will you hope that your journey will be completed in safety - you will “see” it in its’ entirety before you start. With Quantum Marketing there are also no advertising costs! Before you spend a single penny on your product you will know not only whether it will be successful but also exactly how to achieve this success - not as a pre-printed formula that someone else has used but as a unique custom-made process exactly fitted to you and your product/desire.
Quantum Marketing is based upon the practical application of Quantum Field Theory - a description of how the World actually functions. In the Quantum Marketing Handbook you can read how the works of Einstein, Jung, Bose, Heisenberg and Rubbia have been for the first time brought together to produce a working system to easily and consciously use the Quantum Fields to rapidly attain your goals with virtually zero cost.

The Quantum Marketing basic course will be mastered within a few short weeks and ever after give you the power to know what will succeed for you and how to do it in the easiest and cheapest way possible.
opens the direct communication channels to your customers.
builds the Quantum Portal through which your customers immediately find their way to you.

Not only will you personally benefit directly from the use of the Quantum Marketing techniques, you can even earn money by introducing other to Quantum Marketing!
HARMONY CHIP.”
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Karma is a marketroid.

marketroid: /mar�k@�troyd/, n.
alt.: marketing slime, marketeer, mar�ket�ing droid, marketdroid. A member of a company’s marketing department, esp. one who promises users that the next version of a product will have features that are not actually scheduled for inclusion, and/or are in violation of the laws of physics; and/or one who describes existing features (and misfeatures) in ebullient, buzzword-laden adspeak.

(e•bul•lient - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-buhl-yuh nt, i-boo l-] –adjective
              1.Overflowing with fervor, enthusiasm, or excitement; high-sprited.
              2.Bubbling up like a boiling liquid.)
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Although wishing to be rid of misery,
They run toward misery itself.
Although wishing to have happiness,
Like an enemy they ignorantly destroy it.

-Santideva, “Bodhicaryavatara”

Whatever you’re taking, the dosage needs to be increased.

Olya - 13 December 2007 06:02 PM

(My above post was in the response to Daveb post)

One of the cancer patients had passed today in our hospice. 4 Harmony chips were found under his bed sheets.

I don’t even remotely believe you.

daveb - 13 December 2007 07:42 PM

Whatever you’re taking, the dosage needs to be increased.

Well, maybe you are right… considering your (in frequency increased) posts in which you resort to ad hominems.
I also begin to think that maybe you need to decrease whatever you are taking, love.

So, instead of your prescription,  I’ll be better off just ignoring thy posts, unless you stick to the main theme of this thread.
If you wish to talk about me -start another topic. If you wish to talk to me personally-there is private message option. I do not promise responding back to those though.
No time to waste. Sorry.