And why couldn’t he have predicted the foiled terrorist attacks of a few days ago before they occured, if they were part of some grand scheme that he can see?
Because they were foiled attacks? How would he be able to claim that he’s predicted all these terrorist attacks if they never occur because they were stopped in time? Like you said, it’s the age-old fortune-telling tricks at work.
During my terrorism planning days - I predicted 9/11, too. Not the date, but the event. Actually, it was assumed by most that another attack on the WTC would come one day soon.
Some of my predictions of yesterday have already come true!!!!!!!!
My latest predictions:
Isreal will attack a neighboring country. (I was joking on this - but they attacked today despite the cease fire)
The U.S. will be struck by a large hurricane during the presidency of George Bush.
A plane will crash and many people will be killed. While terrorism will be one of the suspected causes at first, officials will cover it up and attribute the cause to a combination of mechanical failure and crew mistakes in responding to the failure. They will hide the fact that the VP accidently shot it down. (just hours after posting this, a plane carrying people from an area business crashed in Michigan and all onboard were killed)
Bird flu will show up in the U.S. (cripes - this one just came true! Bird flu was just found in Michigan! - but I already knew it!)
A public transportation system in Europe will be attacked by terrorists.
A top NFL quarterback will get injured. (Saint’s quarterback Adrian McPherson, it was announced today, could miss two weeks after being hit by a golf cart being driven by the raccoon mascot of the Tennessee Titans while fielding a punt in warmups. Okay, he’s not a top NFL quarterback, but I was close)
Those two major movie stars that just got married will get divorced, and a formerly black music superstar will do something really stupid involving his kids, someone else’s kids, a monkey, or all of the above. (Movie star Kate Hudson announced her divorce this morning!)
I have some more, but have to stop now. My lunch break has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.
Alex Jones did not warn people about 9/11, predict it would happen, that Bin Ladin would be blamed because HE HAD A DREAM. Alex Jones figured out this would happen, just like a lot of other people knew it would happen. The FBI knew it would happen, and many lower level people knew it. There was a lot of stuff going on to prepare to pull off the scam. The operatives were going about loudly leaving “trails”—there was jsut a lot of stuff being laid down to provide the phony proof after the government pulled off their 9/11 that it was “Arab terrorists/Al CIAda” responsible.
I listen to Alex Jones all hte time, and this is what I’ve heard him say. He specifically said he has no psychic abilities, that anybody who was paying attention at the time would have known this as well as he did, and that in fact many other people DID know, and tried to warn that this would happen.
In fact, the FBI agents who tried to warn about 9/11 were told to shut up, to do nothing to try to prevent the attack, or THEY WOULD BE ARRESTED.
You people who are slamming Alex Jones ought to just listen to him for a couple of his programs. His programs are rerun continuously 24/7 on his website http://WWW.INFOWARS.COM.
The man is only 32 years old and has been fighting the New World Order since he was 20. He has produced 17 films, or therabouts, on a dime, but they look like million dollar films. The information he presents in his documentaries should wake up anyone, and would wake them up.
Most people don’t WANT to wake up. They would rather live in Disneyland, believe lies that make them feel good, than be mature enough to face the truth.
And Alex is right—if people would wake up and speak up, we could stop George Bush and the neoCONs from their plans to take over the world, nuke the majority of the world’s population into oblivion and trash the U.S. Constitution.
Actually, the Constitution is ALREADY trashed, but perhaps it could be restored if Bush and Company were tried and punished for the treason and evil they have done.
Alex Jones did not warn people about 9/11, predict it would happen, that Bin Ladin would be blamed because HE HAD A DREAM.
You’re right. He didn’t predict it due to a dream. He didn’t predict any of that at all. He made no such prediction.
You people who are slamming Alex Jones ought to just listen to him for a couple of his programs. His programs are rerun continuously 24/7 on his website http://WWW.INFOWARS.COM.
I did listen to him, as I already said. And by listening to him, and actually looking into the things that he mentioned, and looking back at earlier things he’s said, I’ve seen that the guy is worthless as a source of information because what he says is usually misleading, inconsequential, or (as in the case of him claiming to have predicted 9/11) just plain false.
Accipter—Alex Jones, on his radio show, urged his viewers to call the White House and tell them do not attack the Twin Towers and blame it on Bin Laden. Meantime, people in the FBI had been also warning, trying to warn, for months. What Alex Jones did was more of a warning than a prediction. He’s not a psychic.
These people (the neoCONs/Illuminati) announce what they are goign to do before they do it in public, in the arts, in books. People like Alex Jones who read and study them are able to bring forward their own words and deeds that anybody can draw the same conclusions of dire warnings to what the Globalist elites are up to. In fact, the CFR is a Secret Society of elites to form a world government.
So yes, there were warnings given, specific warnings, frantic warnings. While Alex Jones was urging his listeners to lobby the White House, FBI agents were frantically trying to alert their superiors of the same thing.
But the Illuminiati, the Luciferian monsters we have controlling the government, aka neoCONs, are so arrogant, so confident that people like yourself will always believe every lie they tell and give them a pass, simply ignored Alex Jones and his viewers; and their minions ordered the FBI employees to shut up or face jail. They went ahead with their dastardly and treasonous plans to murder Americans and destroy the Twin Towers.
Meantime, they go about smirking, flashing Illuminati hand signs, and preparing more outrageous, in-your-face attacks. Indeed, the bullying, confiscation of jackknives, lipsticks, Gatoraide at the airports is all to condition people to their new police state. This, while our borders remain not only open, but with a virtual “come on in and stay” sign flashing at the borders.
Alex predicted the neoCONs will pull another 9/11 type event before end of October unless people like myself who know what the Luciferians are up to start hollering and warning people who are oblivious and mesmerized, people like yourself. He based his prediction on the flurry of fake terror “busts” we’ve been getting. He knows how these people think, that the things they do are for a purpose. He knows they are pulling off the rash of phony busts, publicizing them with the aid of their controlled lying media, to get people set up for the next 9/11 type event. Then after they pull it off (whether it’s a nuke, a bio attack, who knows?) they will then say, “We tried to stop all the terrorists, but we couldn’t get them all. If we’d had more cooperation, we could have caught them all. Now it’s time to start rounding up the peaceniks and opponents of our (phony) war on terror, and ship them off where we can keep an eye on them so they don’t hinder our great work of protecting the country from these vile terrorists.“
And of course, when people are terrorized, in shock, still bleeding and reeling from the latest whammy, they will be glad to start waging war against the people in their midst, their own friends, family and neighbors who they perceive as standing in the way of their own personal security.
I’m not afraid of these monsters, and one reason I’m not is because I understand them the way Alex Jones does. And I’m thankful to Alex. We’re going to die anyway, so we may as well die standing for the truth and with our eyes wide open instead of eyes wide shut.
The plans by PNAC were made ten years before 9/11, plans to launch an Adolph Hitler type attack, conquer the world, and this time succeed where Hitler had failed; but as their documents state, PNAC needed a “Pearl Harbor type event” to initiate their plans.
They false-flagged us at 9/11, and the neoCONs are now busy working with Israel to initiate WWIII. Our Constitution is now trashed, and we have murderers and traitors at the helm of our government, taking us forward to conquer and destroy until the New World Order is accomplished. Many billions of people will be killed, and the rest will be slaves of mind, soul and spirit.
Alex Jones pours himself out for humanity—trying to warn, to reveal the shell game, the smoke and mirrors of the lies the Illuminati use to bewitch and control, and he does it while people like yourself scream “hoax” and “wackos.“
How long have you listened to Alex Jones? 15 minutes? You say he has nothing to say, nothing to present, no facts, just feints and changing positions?
Alex Jones has produced 15 films. Each one of them is as true today as it was when he produced them. They are one coherent whole. He stands firmly on the information presented on each one of them. So what you say is a complete lie. I doubt if you have even seen his films. If you have, please show where he has changed his position or where there is any dissociation amongst any of his films. Alex Jones is a historian, a documentarian (as C-SPAN noted him to be), and probably the most talented radio host in America on top of it. If he were not opposing the New World Order and the controlled media he would be on top of the pile in the controlled media, bigger than Limbaugh or any of the rest. But Alex Jones has not and will not sell his soul to the Luciferians.
And we can listen to him on the Internet and on Short Wave radio. Because of Alex Jones, millions of people are awake now, people like myself.
Alex Jones is an American hero, and will go down in history as such.
Accipter—Alex Jones, on his radio show, told his viewers to please call the White House
Yes, he did.
and tell them do not attack the Twin Towers and blame it on Bin Laden.
No, he didn’t. I’ve included a transcript from his show on the previous page. You can read it for yourself. He never says any such thing. If he does, show me. Provide the quotation where he specifically predicts the attacks.
So yes, there were warnings given, specific warnings, frantic warnings.
His “prediction” consists of him saying that an unspecified act of terrorism is being planned for an unspecified time by unspecified means. And he’s been making those same predictions all the time, for years. You can make that prediction at any time, and it will come true. It’s like predicting that rain will fall somewhere at some time. Terrorism has always been with us.
How long have you listened to Alex Jones? 15 minutes? You say he has nothing to say, nothing to present, no facts, just feints and changing positions?
I’ve actually read a fair amount of what he has to say. And even if you only listen to one minute of somebody talking, if that person tells half-truths, distortions, and outright falsehoods you can identify those as half-truths, distortions, and falsehoods. You don’t have to listen to somebody for hours on end to know that some “fact” he gives isn’t true.
Alex Jones has produced 15 films.
So, producing films means that we should believe everything in the film and everything that the producer says?
Each one of them is as true today as it was when he produced them.
I won’t argue with that.
They are one coherent whole.
Despite all the flaws that have been pointed out in them, both here in this Forum and elsewhere?
He stands firmly on the information presented on each one of them.
Naturally he does. For the sake of argument, suppose that he is full of nonsense. Do you think he’d stand up and tell everybody so?
So what you say is a complete lie.
I’m wrong because Alex Jones makes movies and says that he’s telling the truth? That cancels out things like quotations not actually saying what he claims they say, and things not really being where and when he claims that they are?
I doubt if you have even seen his films.
No, I haven’t. But I’ve read what he’s said elsewhere. If something is true, then it’s not just going to be true in his movies.
If you have, please show where he has changed his position or where there is any dissociation amonst any of his films.
The dissociations I’m referring to aren’t among his films, the dissociation is between his claims and reality.
Alex Jones is a historian, a documentarian, and probably the most talented radio host in America.
I’ll agree with you on the first two, even if I may argue the value and validity of his work. But I must say that he is a terrible speaker on the radio. He just sort of blurts things out a lot, and doesn’t have great coherency. He is certainly passionate about his subject, though.
If he were not opposing the New World Order and the controlled media
Okay, for the sake of clarity, here’s a break-down of what he claims is his “prediction” of the 9/11 attacks.
I’m going to put the call out that you call the White House and tell them,
Here he’s predicting that he’ll tell his viewers to make telephone calls.
“Look, we’ve seen the news stories that you wanted to blow things up and have blown things up
He’s saying that he’s watched the news.
and that you are saying four million of us are going to die and we need martial law. . .
Now he’s saying what the White House has said (although whether the White House actually said that, I don’t know; he does tend to distort quotations and information).
and the Associated press. . .one of your little “drills” you had?
I have no idea what he’s talking about here, but it’s nothing predictive.
And that we’re aware of who the terrorists are if you pull this.“
Here he’s saying that if anything happens (and he makes absolutely no specifications to what that “anything” may be, either), he’ll blame the government.
This can stop this Hitlerian Reichstadt event. . .
More rhetoric. But nothing about 9/11.
I want you to call the major newspapers, I want you to find out these statements are true
More stuff about the newspapers.
by the White House about preparing for martial law,
Again, nothing predicting anything about 9/11.
and I want you to let them know that if there is any terrorism, we know who to blame. . .
Again, if. And again, no specifics.
The point is, if any terrorism comes, it’s from this government,
And yet again.
and if it was an outside threat like a “bin Laden”
Ah, he’s mentioned bin Laden! But he’s using him as an example of foreigners who have attacked the US before.
who was an OCIS in the 80’s, running mujahedeen war, whose family builds all the military bases over in Saudi Arabia right now.
Nothing predicting 9/11 here. In fact, it’s a lot of irrelevant stuff.
He’s the boogeyman they need, this Orwellian phoney system. . .
This is the closest we get to anything that could be considered a prediction of 9/11, especially if you accept the notion that the government was behind the attacks. But again, there isn’t anything here making any sort of prediction. Alex is just referring to the guy who was the #1 terrorist at the time.
Call the White House and tell them, “We know the government’s planning terrorism,
So, now he’s saying that the government is planning terrorism without a doubt. But there’s nothing specific here.
we know Oklahoma City and the World Trade Centre was terrorism,
Talking about past events.
we know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted to blow up airliners Baltimore Sun,
Talking about far past events, and actually giving out more false information (he’s referring to that “Project Northwoods” or whatever it was called, where the JCS in the early 1960’s gave provisional acceptance to an idea involving blowing up an unmanned drone over the Caribbean and claiming that Cuba had shot down an American airliner; they never “wanted to blow up airliners”, but that idea fits in so much better with Alex Jones’ story, and he seems to count on people not actually checking on what he says).
if you do it we’re going to blame you, because we know who’s up to it.
More if, and still no specifics.
Or if you let some terrorist group do it, like the World Trade Centre, we know who to blame.“
Again, referring to past events.
So, where in all that was his amazingly accurate prediction of 9/11 attacks? His “prediction” consists of him saying that an unspecified act of terrorism is being planned for an unspecified time by unspecified means. You can make that prediction at any time, and it will come true.
But the Illuminiati, the Luciferian monsters we have controlling the government, aka neoCONs, are so arrogant, so confident that people like yourself will always believe every lie they tell and give them a pass, simply ignored Alex Jones and his viewers
But I haven’t been going on what the Illuminati or anybody else said. I’ve been going on what Alex Jones said. I listened to and read Alex Jones’ own words, provided by Alex Jones on Alex Jones’ website. And I compared them to Alex Jones’ own words, provided by Alex Jones on Alex Jones’ own website. Or are you saying that Alex Jones is Illuminati?
“So, where in all that was his amazingly accurate prediction of 9/11 attacks? His “prediction” consists of him saying that an unspecified act of terrorism is being planned for an unspecified time by unspecified means. You can make that prediction at any time, and it will come true.“
Excuse me, but you said One can make a prediction at any time that your own government is going to attack its own people and blame Bin Laden and it will come true? Don’t you think this is quite a nutty statement to make?
Thank you for posting some of his words concerning 9/11. They demonstrate to anybody that Alex Jones did in fact predict the government was going to attack its own citizens and blame Bin Laden. He backed his belief up with words, urged his viewers to call the White House and tell them not to do it, that if they went ahead with their plans that they’d not get away with it.
We need Alex Jones as president. Too bad he’s only 32, too young by the Constitution. But since Bush has trashed the Constitution, maybe we can write him in anyway!
And you have not watched even one of his 15 documentary films—even though they are on the Net to be downloaded for free? But you claim to be an expert on him? You say he keeps changing his mind? How would you know that if you are oblivious to what he says or doesn’t say? Go at least watch Alex Jones’ films—9-11 Road to Tyranny or Marshal Law. Then you can come back here and have some credibility about what Alex Jones says or doesn’t say. What he says in his films is what he says in his programs. He has never deviated from his positions, as you falsely accuse him.
Your accusations against him are funny. You think you can listen to him for a few brief minutes on his program and come back and claim to be an expert on him, say he’s a big fraud because he didn’t tell us the day and the hour of the 9/11 attacks.
When clouds gather and the wind starts to blow and a few drops start to come down, it’s not hard to tell that we’re going to have a storm. When you’ve looked at the weather maps ahead of time like Alex Jones does, you’ll have even more information.
Alex is not a psychic, doesn’t claim to be a psychic, and in fact opposes the New Agers and their psychical predictions. In fact, it’s the government who are the bunch of wacko spiritualists and psychics, who conjur up spirits, worship Molech, have Druidic rituals at Bohemian Grove, practice witchcraft and Satanism and all kinds of weird stuff in their secret societies.
These are the people you are defending—the real wackos and psychics. The neoCON Zionists are heavy into the Talmud and the Kabbala, which is black magick, superstition and Satanism.
Alex Jones is a Southern Baptist, sane and straight as they come. His predictions are made by common sense, by years of study, by being completely immersed in studying these evil people, their organizations, their history, the words they say, their current activities. Alex studies their controlled media and the culture as well, because these people own EVERYTHING.
Except the Internet. On the Internet people can find the truth. There is freedom and truth on the Internet—at least for now.
But people are responsible to think for themselves, to sort it out.
But if you want to knock Alex Jones, I’d say you should start out by looking at some of his films, at least one—like 9-11, Road to Tyranny, Marshal Law, or his latest TerrorStorm. And you need to give him a week of your time listening to his broadcast on GCNLive.com or catch the feed, looped 24/7 on his website http://WWW.INFOWARS.COM.
I will wager a bet with you that if you will listen to a week of his broadcasts, watch at least two of his films, especially 9-11 Road to Tyranny and his latest TerrorStorm—you will come back to this forum with your tail between your legs and be eating your words. But I tend to think you may be a paid debunker for the neoCONs anyway. Since our media is the best that (NeoCON) money can buy, who can doubt that they have a few Internet “debunkers” on the payroll as well.
In fact, it’s the government who are the bunch of wacko spiritualists and psychics, who conjur up spirits, worship Molech, have Druidic rituals at Bohemian Grove, practice witchcraft and Satanism and all kinds of weird stuff in their secret societies.
Reading this kind of retoric, it’s like being back to the Middle Ages. Thousands of innocent people were burnt then on similar wild accusations of witchcraft, worshipping the devil and practising “heathen” rituals.
We are back in 1006 AD it seems.
Fire up the stakes! Surely, they have black cats! And intercourse with the devil at the new moon! And eat babies! And ride around on flying billy goats at night!
[Monty Python] A wiiiiiitch, we’ve got a wiiiiiiiitch!!!!!!! [/Monty Python]
Excuse me, but you said One can make a prediction at any time that your own government is going to attack its own people and blame Bin Laden and it will come true? Don’t you think this is quite a nutty statement to make?
Yes, it is a nutty statement. That’s why I never said any such thing. I said that he made an incredibly vague statement about a very basic thing that was sure to happen (there would be a terrorist attack), and that it did of course happen. As would any other obvious and unavoidable thing, such as predicting a riot somewhere, or a robbery, or a storm, or a rattlesnake laying eggs.
Thank you for posting some of his words concerning 9/11. They demonstrate to anybody that Alex Jones did in fact predict the government was going to attack its own citizens and blame Bin Laden.
You still haven’t shown us the words that are the prediction. Go ahead. Copy and paste the exact words where he gives anything more than just the most bare prediction that a terrorist attack will occur sometime somewhere somehow.
And you have not watched even one of his 15 documentary films—even though they are on the Net to be downloaded for free?
Nope. I have a very slow Internet connection and it would take me weeks to download one of his movies (and sadly, that’s really not much of an exaggeration). And I’m not about to send him money to get him to send me an overpriced copy in the mail. But as I said, I have watched and listened to bits, and I have read much of what he says. Or are you saying that only his movies have any validity, and that everything else that he says and does is worthless?
But you claim to be an expert on him?
Nope. But you don’t need to be an expert to know when somebody’s wrong. If I say that Giraffa camelopardalis, the giraffe, is a common saltwater fish found in the Alps, you don’t need to be an expert in marine biology to know that I’m wrong. And when Alex Jones says that he said a certain thing at a certain point in a certain broadcast, you don’t need to be an expert on Alex Jones to be able to look at that certain point in that certain broadcast and see that he’s wrong.
You say he keeps changing his mind?
No, I don’t. I say that he distorts the truth and that he spreads false information. I never said that he changes his mind. As far as I can tell, he keeps on with the same ideas. It’s just that the ideas are wrong.
How would you know that if you are oblivious to what he says or doesn’t say?
If I was oblivious, I wouldn’t. So it’s a good thing for this debate that I’m not oblivious, isn’t it?
Go at least watch Alex Jones’ films—9-11 Road to Tyranny or Marshal Law. Then you can come back here and have some credibility about what Alex Jones says or doesn’t say.
This isn’t about his movies. It’s about his broadcast. Which I have seen. The movies have nothing to do with his supposed prediction of 9/11. That broadcast does. He said himself that he predicted 9/11 and then gave that broadcast as proof of this. So it is the broadcast which we are discussing. Not his movies. So forget about his movies for now, and just concentrate on his broadcast.
What he says in his films is what he says in his programs.
And I’ve seen what he says in his programmes, and I’ve seen what he and his supporters say about his films and his programmes. So I’ve seen what he says in his films.
He has never deviated from his positions, as you falsely accuse him.
Accipiter - 20 August 2006 02:57 AM
resistance - 20 August 2006 02:30 AM
He stands firmly on the information presented on each one of them.
Naturally he does.
As you can see, I openly agreed with you that he stands by his stories. So who’s making false accusations now?
Your accusations against him are funny.
And yet you have done nothing to refute them.
You think you can listen to him for a few brief minutes on his program and come back and claim to be an expert on him,
Nope, I don’t.
say he’s a big fraud because he didn’t tell us the day and the hour of the 9/11 attacks.
Or the place, or the means, or anything else. Not even in rough, vague terms. All he does is say that there will be a terrorist attack. Which, given the history of the world for the past several thousand years, isn’t much of a prediction.
