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Elephant ‘self-portrait’ on show
Posted: 26 July 2006 12:16 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Pictures which were painted by elephants have gone on display at an Edinburgh gallery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/5203120.stm

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Posted: 26 July 2006 12:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Wow, that’s actually a better painting of an elephant then anything I could do.  I’m being out painted by elephants!

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Posted: 26 July 2006 06:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Heh. Welcome to the club.

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Posted: 26 July 2006 12:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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me too.

I would so love to see an elephant painting.

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Posted: 26 July 2006 08:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Note the caption “said to have been painted by an elephant”. 

I don’t buy it.  (Unless it was trained to trace along a pre-made drawing or something like that.)  The only elephant “paintings” that I’ve seen are just sort of random splotches and streaks, nothing representational.

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Posted: 27 July 2006 05:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I don’t know Joe, elephants are really smart animals, if they can balance on large inflatable balls why can’t they paint what they see?

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Posted: 27 July 2006 07:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I get a ‘page not found’ message when I click on the link.

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Posted: 27 July 2006 07:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Works fine for me, Alex…

Pictures which were painted by elephants have gone on display at an Edinburgh gallery.
Art graduate Victoria Khunapramot, 26, has brought the paintings from Thailand to the Dundas Gallery on Dundas Street.

They include “self-portraits” by Paya, who is said to be the only elephant to have mastered his own likeness.

Paya is one of six elephants whose keepers have taught them how to hold a paintbrush in their trunks. They drop the brush when they want a new colour.

Mrs Khunapramot, from Newington, said: “Many people cannot believe that an elephant is capable of producing any kind of artwork, never mind a self-portrait.

“But they are very intelligent animals and create the entire paintings with great gusto and concentration within just five or 10 minutes - the only thing they cannot do on their own is pick up a paintbrush, so it gets handed to them.

“They are trained by artists who fine-tune their skills, and they paint in front of an audience in their conservation village, leaving no one in any doubt that they are authentic elephant creations.”

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Mrs Khunapramot, who set up the Thai Fine Art company after studying the history of art in St Andrews and business management at Edinburgh’s Napier University, said it took about a month to train the animals to paint.

Elephant expert Dr Joyce Poole, who has studied the animals for 30 years, said she owned an elephant painting but had not come across animals painting their own images.

The Oslo-based scientist said: “I have seen elephants painting, but it was very free-flow.

“It’s certainly capable of drawing an elephant, and could be trained, but might not really understand what it was doing.”

One of the pictures said to have been painted by an elephant

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Posted: 27 July 2006 10:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I’m calling hoax on that picture.  All the paintings actually known to be done by elephants have been abstract, to say the least.  None have shown any kind of definition whatsoever.  I do not believe an elephant painted that picture that Boo included. 

I also get a 404 error from the link.  Try this link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/5203120.stm

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Posted: 27 July 2006 01:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Self portrait?

I dunno.  Looks a little bit like Elvis to me!  wink

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Posted: 28 July 2006 06:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Well, being a tree-hugger and an animal-rights advocate, I believe the story, but I admit I am pre-disposed.

The article, after all, did say the elephant painted in front of a live audience.  And their trunks are quite able to articulate the fine movements needed.

I vote true!


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Posted: 29 July 2006 05:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Uhh, to add to the above:  credibillity would be heightened if the picture is fairly large, say 3 feet by 3 feet or something, and the elephant was using a 2” house-painting brush or something.


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