There is no such thing as an American Indian Dog. This is a scam created by Kim LaFlamme to earn money from the Native American Culture. In America, all things Native American, have become the rage, so to speak. There has been a new interest in the people and their culture and that is appropriate but to create and sell things (arts, crafts, jewelry, and even dogs) and call them Native American doesn’t make it so. LaFlamme claims to have been breeding dogs since childhood and to have brought them back from near extinction. He has even found extinct dogs to use in his creation (in his mind). The Tahltan Bear Dogs have been extinct for many years and they were 15 pound animals that could never be mated to his larger breed of dog. He started his breeding in the late 80’s at the earliest but claims to have been breeding for 40 years. Maybe some day it will be forty years if he isn’t stopped. The females are bred twice a year and he breeds approximately 14 litters per year. Puppy Mill? If these weren’t Indian Dogs, all the animal rights groups would be all over him for the conditions the dogs live in, but no one seems to care. Before you buy a dog from anyone, remember that if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. His dogs do not fit well into apartment life. They are a herding breed, they like to run and they do bark excessively and loudly. Some of them chase cars, many are aggresive, many are skittish and shy. And if you buy more than one, don’t expect to get the same mix twice because it changes constantly. You may get a kelpie, a border collie, a siberian, some wild blood but you will never know the mix. Think before you buy with this dog. Listen to people who have them. This is not to say some of them aren’t great because they are but some are not. They are not free of health issues as claimed and they are not perfect. You are paying a lot of money for a mutt, or as he calls them, a purebred mutt. What is that?
We’ll be perfectly fine with discussions on whether or not the topic is a hoax. We will most likely warn you if you get anywhere near as off topic as you did on the old site.
This thread is more likely to be shut down than the original one. So everyone play nice.
Finally got on, Shocked to see how many bad things associated w/ NAID!! Purchesed a puppy about 8 months ago from one of the 8 or 9 breeders out there. Would like to say the pup is very shy around others, but loves to by me, that’ s of course there is no other dogs around than she really does not care about me at all. My wife’s occupation puts me and the dog around kids. Is very calm and very gentle has been that way since been with me. The aggression issue really concerns me? I can’t believe that all these breedres are just breeding for looks not temperment!! Paying this kind of money for a dog that is great looking but has mental problems, did I get burned? T.Y.
I can’t believe that all these breedres are just breeding for looks not temperment!! Paying this kind of money for a dog that is great looking but has mental problems, did I get burned? T.Y.
I want to believe you are being sarcastic. If not, then you are the sort of customer that puppy mills exist to serve.
I have been involved in Great Pyrenees Mountain Dog rescue for nearly twenty years. I would say that 90% of these dogs are bred for appearance and quick sale. The Pyr is a fabulous animal, when properly and responsibly bred. My current housemate is 175 pounds, large boned and ice-white. He’s absolutely beautiful, but NO Pyr should be so large nor so perfectly white. He’s got major health issues, is completely deaf and suffers hip dyplasia and thyroid failure. I am certain he was a gorgeous puppy and that the ‘breeder’ got top dollar for him. He was probably an $800 - $1,000 puppy.
We saved him from a kill-shelter when he was less than 2 years old.
A responsible breeder would have never produced this animal, and for sure would never have sold the pup to a home that was not right for a giant long-haired high-maintenance dog - and Smokey would never have landed in a kill-shelter.
If you seriously have to ask the question, then, yes, you got burned.
I can’t believe that all these breedres are just breeding for looks not temperment!! Paying this kind of money for a dog that is great looking but has mental problems, did I get burned? T.Y.
I want to believe you are being sarcastic. If not, then you are the sort of customer that puppy mills exist to serve.
I have been involved in Great Pyrenees Mountain Dog rescue for nearly twenty years. I would say that 90% of these dogs are bred for appearance and quick sale. The Pyr is a fabulous animal, when properly and responsibly bred. My current housemate is 175 pounds, large boned and ice-white. He’s absolutely beautiful, but NO Pyr should be so large nor so perfectly white. He’s got major health issues, is completely deaf and suffers hip dyplasia and thyroid failure. I am certain he was a gorgeous puppy and that the ‘breeder’ got top dollar for him. He was probably an $800 - $1,000 puppy.
We saved him from a kill-shelter when he was less than 2 years old.
A responsible breeder would have never produced this animal, and for sure would never have sold the pup to a home that was not right for a giant long-haired high-maintenance dog - and Smokey would never have landed in a kill-shelter.
If you seriously have to ask the question, then, yes, you got burned.
Then there are the classic cases of some collies and dalmations, among others. . .they take perfectly good, healthy, smart breeds of dogs and ruin them just to give them narrower heads or more spots. It’s rather common for dogs to be bred purely for looks, and with total disregard for intelligence or temperment or even health. After all, by the time the puppies grow up enough that the problems become evident, the sellers have already made lots of money.
