Since you were asking for straightforward treasure-related questions.
DB1) After 60 years of searching, not one example of a Yamashita treasure-trove - either full or emptied - has ever been revealed to the public. Why is that?
DB2) The supposed Yamashita treasure was accumulated through war crimes and would properly be the property of the individuals and countries from which it was taken. Why do you feel you have any right to it?
DB3) Eusebio Dizon, an archaeologist at the Manila National Museum, spent 18 years looking for physical or documentary evidence of the treasure, but found nothing. He concluded that there was no evidence for the story and it was most likely a myth. Is this not an expert opinion on the matter?
Hey guys,...the above post are just suspected Japanese Ww2 treasure sites SAMPLES….who is knowledgable or well research in WW2 Japanese treasure now..DUMAGAT TEAM OR ILLLUMINATI…he,he,he…
The Illuminati, who (a) know how to spell ‘knowledgeable’, and (b) already know whether or not there is treasure at any of the sites listed.
You know, somehow I find a list of places where people suspect there is treasure very poor evidence that there is actually treasure there.
DB4) Could you instead produce a list of all the places that have been confirmed to be Yamashita treasure stores? Preferably with a link to the newspaper article where this amazing discovery was reported?
I like your questions…simple and precise….its easy to see and read. You know guys if many people are asking questions simultaneously and every questions is a whole paragragh…you don’t expect me to answer it all, bcoz am sure i will miss…one or two questions…thats why i wanted all your questions to e simple and precise…oks?
Let it be reminded…you may or may not agree with my answers….hey its democracy…we have some diffferent opnions…
1) So if they were so worried about this vast treasure being sunk, then why risk it at all by taking it to the Philippines in the first place?
As per research, The Japanese have two options…to bring the treasure to Japan or Philippines….If they can’t get it thru japan then they will hide it here…as explained before, Phillippines is the center of pacific Asia…and if they lose, the japanese concession/appeal to americans to spare the Phil. for them…which did not happen. The only appeal that was aproved by the americans is to spare their Emperor from shame of death penalty….thats why the Emperor of Japan…was NOT blamed for war atrocities…only the generals.
2) So why didn’t they ship out this giant treasure before the Allies finally liberated the Philippines…
They can’t there is already naval/submarine blockade, they can no longer bring treasure to japan…besides their second option is to hide treasures in Philippines in deep underground treasure chamber, and they expct that they will still be spared the Phil. for them…when it didn’t happen, the japanese slowly infiltrated the Philippines by massive mining, construction to remote areas and logging…ALL ARE BUSINESS FRONT FOR TREASURE HUNTING….they have been doing these for decades in cooperation of our corrupt gov’t.
DAVID B.
1) No, since the only proof you have of your claims are words, which are as worthless as gold is not. Out of two tons of gold you came away with absolutely zero proof. Congratulations, that must be some kind of world’s record for failure.
Since you are apparently the world’s worst treasure hunter, why is what you say in any way reliable?
I will never insist that my words are reliable…ITS UP TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND ANALYZE if what am saying is true or hoax.
I have stated my facts and explanation, its up to you to understand or not. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
BTW, I AM NOT OBLIGED TO SHOW HERE OUR COMPREHENSIVE 300 PAGES/20 YR… TREASURE RESEARCH (maps,pictures, markers,sites etc)...simply bcoz its STRICKLY CONFIDENTIAL….we usually show it to only to our friends, partners and funders….
Remember guys, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION FORUM….NOT A POWER POINT… PROJECT PRESENTATION….Am NOT obliged to convince you all….ONLY TO INFORM YOU…wether you believe it or not.
2) No. If you say things that are clearly wrong and cannot explain this then everything you say is suspect…
If you think my arguments are dobtful, THEN YOU SHOULD CORRECT ME, AND EXPLAIN IT HERE, WHAT YOU SEEMED TO BE RIGHT….so that I can rebutt…..Stop complaining, say your facts and i will say mine…as simple as that.
3) DB1) After 60 years of searching, not one example of a Yamashita treasure-trove - either full or emptied - has ever been revealed to the public. Why is that?
Of course there is….in 1972 a local treasure hunter Rogelio roxas had recovered 2 ton golden Budha and a cave full of treasures (it tookarmy one year to haul)...it was headline and investigated by Phil. senate. The Roxas treasures was CONFISCATED BY MARCOS….thats why Roxas estate file a court Case in hawaii and they were awarded…$22 billion dollars by HAWAII SUPREME COURT….
There are other small recoveries but mostly didn’t reach the MEDIA LOCAL/ABROAD….In our poor country, announcing that you recover treasure…AUTOMATICALLY, YOUR LIVES will last only a few minutes…believe me its a death warrant.
4) The supposed Yamashita treasure was accumulated through war crimes and would properly be the property of the individuals and countries from which it was taken. Why do you feel you have any right to it?
As treasure hunters, whoever get that treasure it should belongs to him…I maybe right or wrong, but who will judge me?
Remeber that MOST TREASURES IN EVERY COUNTRY BANKS…AND MUSEUM ARE PRODUCT OF WAR OR LOOTING….
GOLD or TREASURES…thru centuries only changes different hands or countries…from Genghis Khan, Conquestadores, Incas, Nazi, ..etc….Why don’t you go to your NATIONAL MUSEUM AND ASK WHY THE HECK…THE TREASURE OF OTHER COUNTRIES WAS DISPLAYED THERE??? haven’t you wander ...WHO GAVE THEM THE RIGHT TO GET OTHER COUNTRIES TREASURES and displayed it on their museum?
5) Eusebio Dizon, an archaeologist at the Manila National Museum, spent 18 years looking for physical or documentary evidence of the treasure, but found nothing. He concluded that there was no evidence for the story and it was most likely a myth. Is this not an expert opinion on the matter?
Mr. E. Dizon is only an educator,archeologist…NOT A YAM TREASURE EXPERT…he is completely IGNORANT of yam treasure hunting which is MOSTLY SECRET AND COVERT TREASURE OPERATION…
6) The Illuminati, who (a) know how to spell ‘knowledgeable’, and (b) already know whether or not there is treasure at any of the sites listed.
Don’t be childish, this IS NOT A SPELLING CONTEST, i may mispelled one or two..but its NOT an issue to me. As long as the message was clearly informed, thats fine with me.
ONE thing for sure…THE ILLUMINATI doesn’t know these sites he,he,he…believe me….and ASSUMING they do, what can they do about it…salivate/drool?
Dumagat, please don’t type in all caps. It is considered shouting, and rather rude.
If you wish to answer someone’s questions, it makes it a lot easier to read if you quote their post as the others are doing - the quote button is at the bottom of each post, and that way you can cut their post down to only quote the things you are responding to. As it is, your posts are somewhat confusing.
I will never insist that my words are reliable…ITS UP TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND ANALYZE if what am saying is true or hoax. I have stated my facts and explanation, its up to you to understand or not. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
Unfortunately you have not been able to demonstrate any truth to your ‘facts’. Did you now there is a giant, invisible Illuminati lunar base on far side of the moon? There, I’ve stated my facts, surely that’s the incontrovertible truth?
Assertions without proof are not facts, just assertions (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare_assertion_fallacy). Since you are making an extraordinary claim, but don’t have any evidence, let alone extraordinary evidence, the most likely conclusion (from Bayes Theorem) is that you are making it up.
Do you have anything other than bare assertions to make?
BTW, I AM NOT OBLIGED TO SHOW HERE OUR COMPREHENSIVE 300 PAGES/20 YR… TREASURE RESEARCH (maps,pictures, markers,sites etc)...simply bcoz its STRICKLY CONFIDENTIAL….we usually show it to only to our friends, partners and funders….
Remember guys, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION FORUM….NOT A POWER POINT… PROJECT PRESENTATION….Am NOT obliged to convince you all….ONLY TO INFORM YOU…wether you believe it or not.
Claiming you have proof that you will not show is not fact, just another assertion.
Since you are not willing to show us your ‘proof’, what reason have we to believe such a proof exists?
If you think my arguments are dobtful, THEN YOU SHOULD CORRECT ME, AND EXPLAIN IT HERE, WHAT YOU SEEMED TO BE RIGHT….so that I can rebutt…..Stop complaining, say your facts and i will say mine…as simple as that.
You also claimed that America did not know of the Japanese military build up prior to WW2, yet not only were the Pearl Harbour shipyards commissioned (in 1908) to provide a stronger US Navy presence in the pacific to counter threats from the ‘Eastern nations’, but by 1933, the US military were engaging in mock ‘surprise attacks’ by Japanese forces to test Pearl’s defences against such an eventuality.
You also claimed that the level of Japanese military technology was a surprise to the US, yet much of the military build-up of the early 20th century was bought from other countries such as the United Kingdom and US. As an ostensibly ‘friendly’ power, Japan was extended access to the latest ship designs by Vickers of the UK (designer to the Royal Navy) and Union Iron in the US (major supplier to the USN). By 1920, the Japanese had reverse engineered and in many cases improved on the best international vessels on offer and had managed to build up the 3rd largest navy in the world.
Given your record on matters open to confirmation is so poor, why should we assume you have been any more accurate over these other subjects?
Of course there is….in 1972 a local treasure hunter Rogelio roxas had recovered 2 ton golden Budha and a cave full of treasures (it tookarmy one year to haul)...it was headline and investigated by Phil. senate. The Roxas treasures was CONFISCATED BY MARCOS….thats why Roxas estate file a court Case in hawaii and they were awarded…$22 billion dollars by HAWAII SUPREME COURT….
Roxas himself claimed the Buddha weighed only one tonne (metric) and his brother Jose Roxas claimed under oath that it was made of ‘lead or copper’ (the ‘gold’ being a journalistic embellishment). The award of $22 billion was not made by the Hawaii Supreme Court, but by a lower court after misleading advice had been given to the jury, the damages were overturned on appeal by the Hawaii Supreme Court (Roxas v. Marcos, Hawaii Supreme Court, case number 20606).
So even on your own area of ‘expertise’ you seem unable to get your facts right.
There are other small recoveries but mostly didn’t reach the MEDIA LOCAL/ABROAD….In our poor country, announcing that you recover treasure…AUTOMATICALLY, YOUR LIVES will last only a few minutes…believe me its a death warrant.
Yet you loudly proclaim your ‘superior knowledge’ (as yet undemonstrated) on a public forum?
This is, of course, just an excuse. Like all the supposed finds, even Roxas’, there is never even a empty vault to see afterwards. Contrast this with the results of real treasure hoards, such as the Valley of the Kings in Egypt, where the handiwork of tomb-robbers was available for anyone to see.
5) “Eusebio Dizon, an archaeologist at the Manila National Museum, spent 18 years looking for physical or documentary evidence of the treasure, but found nothing. He concluded that there was no evidence for the story and it was most likely a myth. Is this not an expert opinion on the matter?“
Mr. E. Dizon is only an educator,archeologist…NOT A YAM TREASURE EXPERT…he is completely IGNORANT of yam treasure hunting which is MOSTLY SECRET AND COVERT TREASURE OPERATION…
Which is another excuse. Dizon is very familiar with the events of those times, being a historian of that period, and spent 18 years looking for evidence of the Yamashita treasure, by his own account. There was none.
Don’t be childish, this IS NOT A SPELLING CONTEST, i may mispelled one or two..but its NOT an issue to me. As long as the message was clearly informed, thats fine with me.
Ironically, you even misspelled “mispelled”.
ONE thing for sure…THE ILLUMINATI doesn’t know these sites he,he,he…believe me….and ASSUMING they do, what can they do about it…salivate/drool?
The Illuminati know where the lost socks go. They know your dreams before you do. They see every letter you send. And every one you receive. You have no secrets from them. Everything you know… They know.
So let’s summarise:
* You’re a highly knowledgeable treasure hunter who can’t even get his facts about Roxas’ ‘find’ right.
* You have lots of proof but you’re not going to show us.
* You’ve found lots of gold but someone took it away from you.
* Treasure hunters are a secretive lot but you’re on here telling us so.
* To reveal knowledge of the treasure’s location is incredibly dangerous but you’re doing it on a public forum.
* The results of a professional researcher’s 18 year study are wrong because you say so an nothing else.
* You believe in the Illuminati, and what’s more you know better than them.
* The dog ate your homework, it was the bus’ fault you were late and the cheque is in the post.
Could you instead produce a list of all the places that have been confirmed to be Yamashita treasure stores? Preferably with a link to the newspaper article where this amazing discovery was reported?
Let’s see, three personal testimonies (hearsay, not confirmation) and a link to the Supreme Court decision that (a) contradicts your earlier assertions about Roxas’ find and the award against Imelda Marcos, and (b) mentions the only physical evidence of any find, anywhere, a brass-plated statue of a buddha. No gold, diamonds, or even the vault described by Roxas has ever been discovered.
So lots of talk and a brass gee-gaw. That’s your proof?
Bo,
Sorry for the reply confusion, am not yet familiar to use some of the icons here specially quote buttons…i usually I use “copy and paste” to quote anybody…anyway i will try to use quote buttons….BTW, I also use capital letters to emphasize something. If capital letters means shouting then i will not capitalize it…
silver caliber magnum - 18 May 2008 02:33 AM
Those site links are pretty much not so reliable
Its understandable bcoz you DID NOT personally experience what really happen during Martial law of Marcoses in the Phillipines…even though there are lots of documents, pictures, tstimonies, bank cert, etc in that websites…
Marcoses, ILUMINATI , CIA and Gold Cartel had LOTS OF SECRETS that they mostly keep to themselves alone. Each country Secret information will never be debulged to ordinary mortal like us.
Therefore you should not expect that ordinary mortal or treasure hunter like me could have access to that highly classified information hidden by “big guns”...the most our team can do is gathering information on actual treasure sites…oks?
Bo,
am having difficulty to quote in succession…what should i do?
Boo,
I tried to quote a sentence or paragraph but it usually ended quoting the whole replies with lots of paragraph, which is unnecessary, just imagine how many quoted replies i have to answer i would ended up the whole website page for my answers alone. I prefer my o’l time “copy and paste” method in quoting bcoz it seems easier, i will just bold it to differentiate questions from answers…oks?
David B,
1) Question: Unfortunately you have not been able to demonstrate any truth to your ‘facts’. Did you now there is a giant, invisible Illuminati lunar base on far side of the moon?
Answer: Relaaaaxxxx, don’t be soooo excited, i will slowly show you some treasure proofs here, as you request. We have a lot of time here, don’t be sooooo eager to know japs treasure…...just be sure you are not an intel group, illuminati, CIA, gold cartel or something that monitor us…don’t you?
2) Question: Do you have anything other than bare assertions to make?
Answer: Relllaaaxxx…take it easy….slowly i will reveal the proofs and secret of japs treasure here, okey?????? BTW, Are you in a hurry or something????? he,he,he…
3) Question: Claiming you have proof that you will not show is not fact, just another assertion.
Since you are not willing to show us your ‘proof’, what reason have we to believe such a proof exists?
Answer: Of course, i can slowly show some proofs…am just testing your patience….don’t you know that to be a treasure hunter you should used your patience….bcoz recovering treasure is not easy…it take lot of time and efforts…oks? You can’t be good a treasure hunter man…you always in a hurry….he,he,he…trasure hunting is a slow and painstainking gathering of infos, clues,markers and etc….so stay back and relllaaaxxxx…..we will slowly reveal it here, oks?
4) Question:As has already been pointed out, you claimed the Japanese did not fight in WW1, they did
Answer: Read carefully my post, I have said that the japs stages war on sakhalin island against russian….but did not join ww1 in invading the war in almost whole asia….they did it in WW2, oks? read history books maaan…
5) question: You also claimed that America did not know of the Japanese military build up prior to WW2, yet not only were the Pearl Harbour shipyards commissioned (in 1908) to provide a stronger US Navy presence in the pacific to counter threats from the ‘Eastern nations’, but by 1933, the US military were engaging in mock ‘surprise attacks’ by Japanese forces to test Pearl’s defences against such an eventuality
Answer: if the americans were prepared…then why the heck they caught by surprise attack on pearl harbor by the japanese?....If the aircraft carrier group didn’t left pearl harbor several days earlier….the american navy aircraft carrier group/planes is GONE or will be delayed by several years (how could they win, if they don’t have airforce in the pacific campaign? huh?) ...1945, liberation could NOT have happened…okey?
The americans was just lucky that their aircraft carrier was not there during the pearl harbor attack, or else…WW2 history is different, okey?.
6) Question: Roxas himself claimed the Buddha weighed only one tonne (metric) and his brother Jose Roxas claimed under oath that it was made of ‘lead or copper’ (the ‘gold’ being a journalistic embellishment). The award of $22 billion was not made by the Hawaii Supreme Court, but by a lower court after misleading advice had been given to the jury, the damages were overturned on appeal by the Hawaii Supreme Court (Roxas v. Marcos, Hawaii Supreme Court, case number 20606).
answer: Rogelio was tortured, and his brother testimony was in duress….do you expect his brother will testify during Marcos or Cory time?....c’mon…think it over.
Do you think the japanese will bring a heavy lead budha into Philiipines?...think maan….The original golden budha had retractable head as shown on picture…head can be separated from the body bcoz the Budha inside body contain precious stones (headline on newspaper)...while the confiscated Budha that was shown in court had NO detachable head…meaning Marcos changed it…oks? If you are a Dictator, you control the military, politician, judiciary…you can suppress every evidence….we know it bcoz we live here…you don’t….
7) Which is another excuse. Dizon is very familiar with the events of those times, being a historian of that period, and spent 18 years looking for evidence of the Yamashita treasure, by his own account. There was none.
answer: Have you talk personally to Dizon? Did he actually had extensive treasure research…I GUESS NOT.
Dizon is just a gov’t employee based his treasure info on biased newspaper or cover up propaganda only….He have NO actual treasure hunting experience or knowledge whatsoever, oks? To know about japanese treasure hunting…he should be a treasure hunter himself…he was not, he simply a ignorant historian, who mostly sit on his rocking chair and aircondition office, he never go the the field or actiual treasure sites…intiendes? Remember, japs treasure hunting is done mostly on secret and covert operation…not in view of the public, therefore Dizon will never knew it…oks?
8) The Illuminati know where the lost stocks go....
Answer: maybe they knew where the old stocks go (Marcos gold deposited abroad)....However, the remaining buried treasures hidden here, Do you think they knew that?....I DON’T THINK SO…he,he,he..
