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Council orders man to take down Jolly Roger
Posted: 08 May 2008 07:24 AM   [ Ignore ]
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A fireman has been threatened with legal action for flying a Jolly Roger outside his home for his daughter’s pirate-themed birthday party.

David Waterman, 41, was ordered to take down the flag from his home in Ashtead, Surrey, by Mole Valley council because it breached regulations controlling advertising. The council acted after a complaint by a neighbour.

A letter dated April 21 said he had seven days to remove the 5ft by 3ft banner after which it would be “very likely to attract removal and or prosecution”.

Even though his daughter Madeleine’s eighth birthday has passed, Waterman said he was determined to keep the flag up as a matter of principle.

He paid £95 to apply for advertising consent for the £5 flag, although a letter told him it was “most unlikely that a favourable recommendation would be forthcoming”.

Waterman, who works at Battersea fire station in south London, said he was now in a position where he “couldn’t possibly take down the flag”.

“It’s a £5 flag, not hurting anyone, and they’re probably spending hundreds of pounds of our cash getting me to take it down,“ the father-of-four told the Evening Standard. “That could be spent on improving the local area - it’s disgraceful.“

Another neighbour erected a Jolly Roger in support but took it down after receiving the same warning letter from the council.

A spokeswoman for Mole Valley district council said they visited both properties flying the flags and wrote to the owners informing them of the regulations.

The letters stated that although any resident was entitled to fly national flags outside their properties, the Jolly Roger was not allowed under the Outdoor Advertisements & Signs Regulations.

Waterman, a former trooper with the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment, blamed the complaint by his neighbour on a dispute about his children playing outside.

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Posted: 08 May 2008 07:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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My landlord told me I had to take mine down too.  mad

I’m going to claim religious persecution as a Pastafarian!

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Posted: 08 May 2008 07:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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As a Pastafarian, I object to the council’s blatant religious discrimination. I shall fly my own JR forthwith, YARGH!
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Posted: 08 May 2008 07:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Why yes, yes I did! Finally! smirk

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Posted: 08 May 2008 08:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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You can get the Pirate Fish Jolly Roger from http://www.rof.com/product_p/7295-fl.htm
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*Runs home to place an order!*

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Posted: 08 May 2008 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Awww, that’s so cool!
Any time my family goes camping, we fly pirate flags on our tents.
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Posted: 08 May 2008 08:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I’m wondering how quickly the complaint was filed.  After all, why didn’t he just take it down after the party?  Then I’m sure he wouldn’t even have this issue.

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Posted: 08 May 2008 09:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Apparently, he was going to, but after the council’s letter he’s decided not to.

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Posted: 08 May 2008 09:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Well, yes, but how long did it take to get a letter from the council?  I guess I was wanting to know why he didn’t take it down the same day, right after the party.

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Posted: 08 May 2008 09:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Perhaps for the same reason my council can’t come round the same day and pick up the litter their dustcart has trailed down the street, or come back the same day when the recycling collection misses my road out completely, “We’re a bit busy at the moment, we’ll get right on it when the resources become available. KTHNXBYE!“

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Posted: 08 May 2008 10:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Probably for the same reason we just took down our Christmas lights three weeks ago red face

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Posted: 08 May 2008 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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There was a guy in Michigan that did something similar, but for political reasons, rather than to make a buck.  If you want freedom, then that means the freedom to express even unpopular ideas.

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