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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 122 ]
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WayToGo’s twentieth post, comment no. 167, continued:

Is it a surprise that ALL of them including the current president - G.W. Bush and the well-promoted new-comers to the president position - Rudi Giuliani and Hillary Clinton are members of secret societies and serve not the Americans, but a secret boss.

Are they?  Why don’t you tell us which secret societies these are?

Please, pay attention - they DENIED GIVING UP ANY INFORMATION about what is the goal of their boss.

What’s that again?  They told us that they never gave away information about their conspiracy?  That in itself would be admitting to a conspiracy.  It makes no sense.

And of course, it’s convenient for you how you somehow neglect to tell us when and how they happened to make this startling admission. . .

Is it because this is the New World Order where people will become high-tech-controlled slaves of the small elite group?

Well, I haven’t seen any evidence saying so.  Certainly none from you.

For the president of the US and for any government position this is illegal - because government should serve only the Americans and nobody else.

Well, no.  The President and the US government should serve American citizens, yes.  But there’s nothing illegal about them also helping non-Americans.  There are plenty of perfectly legal government positions, in fact, that are dedicated to the idea of helping out other nations.

Anything secret about where the government leads Americans is ILLEGAL and never can be good.

No, it’s not.  The government can legally keep secrets.  The government has to keep secrets on occasion in order to function properly.  You brought up the Normandy invasion of 1944 a while ago; consider how well it would have served the American soldiers and sailors if the US government had publicly announced every step involved leading up to those landings?  The Germans would have known exactly when and where they planned to land, what their strategy was, and everything else.  Sometimes secrecy is needed.

It’s against the US Constitution, human rights, ... = it’s against the Americans and the nature of human being.

Nope, you’re still wrong.  As has been shown above.

Conclusion:
America is occupies by anti-Americans.

Again, a total lack of any evidence.  And since the government does do plenty that is beneficial to Americans, there seems to be something wrong with the claim.

It means that whatever Ronald Regan meant in the below quote, he was right: “Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.“

Wait. . .you’re using a member of the evil conspiracy as your evidence?

Then what is the solution? All the people need to be together to fight for their own freedom, human rights, prosperity, ... again. Do not buy BS of the criminals that they are innocent - they will never say anything against themselves, otherwise they would not be criminals:

And why should we listen to what you have to say about them?  Especially when you refuse to back up what you say, are shown to be very much in error so often, contradict yourself every other comment, and deliberately hide information?

By doing nothing you are helping your enemies:

“We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.“
~Martin Luther King, Jr.

So, whatever nationality you are, you need to choose a side - you either stand with the people or against them. What is your choice?

All of which assumes that there are sides.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 123 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-first post, comment no. 184:

I wrote specifically for the non-humanoid race:  Now please tell me - what non-humanoid race is thinking about the below post…

No, you didn’t.  You wrote:

“Thanks.
Now please tell me - what non-humanoid race is thinking about the below post:
Government uses terrorists to fight against your freedom.“

That is not addressed specifically to any race, whether human, humanoid, or non-humanoid.  It is an open question written on a public Forum, thus counts as being written for the public in general.  So either you’re saying that everybody who can get online is non-humanoid, or else you didn’t specifically address it to anybody.

And “thoughts” (BS) were send by Accipiter, Robin Bobcat, Deputy Curator, gray, David B., Curator, Renquist, davebgimp, ...

Thus, by doing it, they received the proof they are asking for - that the non-humanoid race, whom they represent, wants to destroy all evidences of the engineering of the WW III under the leadership of this non-humanoid race and that’s why when they see here a VALID PROOF of their criminal activity, they repeat akin an Alzheimer parrot - “where is your proof?, where is your proof?, ...“ By the way - where is the 100% proof of Iraqi WMDs as your kind insisted before the war?

Woah.  Okay, according to WayToGo, if anybody answers him when he asks an open question then it proves all sorts of stuff.  Right.  Now we see why he never answers our questions.  He’s against the asking of questions.  We’re not supposed to question him, we’re just supposed to believe him.

Of course, that goes against his earlier comment that he doesn’t want us to believe him.  More of his constant inconsistency.

I would give you more evidences,

“More”?

but you, as representatives of the non-humanoid race, indirectly admitted that you, like the entire non-humanoid race, do not have logic to think logically in order to process information that is more complicated than 2 x 2 and therefore you have no clue what the word ‘proof’ means.

So it seems that us processing the information he gave us and replying to it, and our giving him definitions of “proof”, means that we can’t process information or define “proof”.  Oh, and that we aren’t human.  Interesting thought process there.

You believe it makes you smarter than humans, who have logic, do you?

Ummmm. . .since I am a human, that means that I can’t be smarter than humans.  Your question doesn’t work out well.

(If you have any doubts about - tell me - I’ll give you a measurable proof.)

Okay, this is both incredibly funny and incredibly sad at the same time.  We spent ten pages asking him for evidence, and now he says that if we ask him, he’ll provide proof.  Yeah, right.  And notice how after we did ask him (again). . .he didn’t provide it.  So, he can’t even fulfill a simple promise.

Your kind replaced consciousness/logic/common sense/… with the same abilities like the sharks have - ability to “smell the blood” - people’s weaknesses. Fortunately, your abilities are too limited, but unfortunately you brainwashed people so much, that your ability to “smell the blood” is good enough to steal billions/trillions by engineering wars, financial disasters, ... . But it’s for now.

It means that your kind can’t do for human kind things other than destruction. E.g. Gates’ philanthropy is fake - it increases his domination in the pharmaceutical business where he is a key player, increases Windows monopoly, etc. Same fraud is with GM food - it ruins health, the Stem cell therapy - it kills a weak organism plus it does much worse than that - about 30 years ago, by genetic experiments with so called “chimeras”, it was proven that mass using of the Stem cell therapy will lead to total extermination of human race - it even can infect children born from the Stemed parents and when the body become weak or when something will trigger the “slipper-terrorist” it will cause dividing of human tissues on two separate organisms - human cells and cancer-like cells and this process will kill this human. There are many other things that the non-humanoid race uses for the single purpose - extermination of mankind by cheating them that they want for them only good (“good”).

That’s why the above mentioned species believe, no questions asked, in everything what the non-humanoid race pushes through its media all around the world. They do not care that the subject of theirs beliefs is based on the Grand Delusion of their bosses. What can I say - the world experience contains the undeniable fact - that psychotic epidemics are very contagious

Lots of personal attacks here.  Absolutely no evidence about his theories, though.  Funny how his claims always seem to end up this way.

(need proof?).

Apparently, “Can you show us your evidence” means something totally different in WayToGo’s native language than it does in English..

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 124 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-second post, comment no. 199:

I gave some names whose work was stolen by Einstein. YOU agreed with,

No, nobody agreed with you.  They quite clearly said that you were wrong.  Disagreeing with you is not agreeing with you.

but you wrote that it’s OK if a Jew/Mason will steal someone’s work, because stealing is good if a thief is a Jew or Mason.

How odd.  Nobody wrote that, either.  WayToGo is seeing people writing things that aren’t there.  And we’re supposed to trust his analysis of information?

Hey, “genius”, your kind made and are making myriads experiments with the purpose to control a human mind REMOTELY (do you have a clue about it or you just came from the jungle?).

Once more, vague statements and no evidence provided.  Why am I not surprised?

The question: does tinfoil protects a person from being remotely hypnotized? Or in your jungle your species never heard about this effect? If so, then do you post here to prove you are a caveman or the new Mowgli?

What on Earth is he going on about here?  I really don’t know.

How are you different from a parrot who learn to repeat words that “humans make no sense”, but has no clue about the word ‘sense’?

Again, he seems to be seeing things that were never written.

Although I will quite happily write “humans often make no sense” here.  And believe it with all my heart.

What does not make sense and why?

I’ll give you a hint, WayToGo:  http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/5679/

Let’s compare what the controlled by the richest Jewish guy Bill Gates Encyclopedia

Eh?

says about Holocaust:  “The Holocaust was the worst genocide in history”.

Truth - the Holocaust was made by elite Jews (Hitler and lots of his generals, admirals, officers and soldiers were elite Jews-Nazis), who eugenized inferior Jews, most of inferior Jews died of epidemic typhus and Nazis tried to save them by extermination the transmitters of typhus - lice by the INSECTICIDE Cyclon (Zyklon) B. Note: Nazis had real deadly gases and they would use them if they would really wanted to kill Jews.

Truth—You make lots of claims here.  You do nothing to support them.  You have been asked to show your evidence many times on some of those points.  You have yet to do so.  According to your own logic, that makes you wrong.  According to my logic, it simply means that you’re making claims that have nothing shown to support them.

Eric Hufschmid - truth doesn’t need a sword or laws to protect it:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Conspiracies12.htm
(If necessary - I have a page of links about Holocaust-fraud.)

Which he never bothers to provide.  Amazing.

“The Holocaust was the worst genocide…“. However, when in Israel elite Jews killed about THE SAME number of inferior Jews that died in the Holocaust - NO ONE named it as genocide or the Holocaust II.

WayToGo links to a site that says that maybe 100,000 Arabic Jewish children were given overly-strong radiation treatment for a disease.  It acknowledges that radiation was a standard treatment was that standard treatment for that disease, and that radiation doses and the dangers of radiation weren’t really understood yet.  Nor does it show any information indicating that anything bad happened to the children as a result.

According to WayToGo, this is the same as 9,000,000 to 11,000,000 people being systematically killed.

Of course, when Jews/Masons - the makers of Russian revolution of 1917, killed about 60 millions of Russians by the Red Terror - NO ONE named it as genocide either.

Well, first off, that was Russians killing Russians in general.  It’s not genocide when you’re killing your own people.  And lots of people did protest this sort of thing by the Russians; this is part of the reason why Truman said what you quoted a while back.  You could read up on Karl Kautsky, too.

The list of Jew/Mason’s crimes against humanity is too big.

Then why can’t you provide any evidence of even one crime?

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 125 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-second post, comment no. 199, continued:

Since when were Jews ‘non-humanoid’?

Because according to TALMUD:

“The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. THEY ARE BEASTS.“ TALMUD: Baba Mezia, 114b (page referrals).

“The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture says to honor the dog more than the non-Jew.“ TALMUD:Ereget Raschi Erod, 22 30.

“Even though God created the non-Jew they are still ANIMALS in human form. It is not becoming of a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.“ TALMUD: Midrasch Talpioth, p 225, Warsaw 1855.

“A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant ANIMAL.“ TALMUD: Coschen Hamischpat 405.

“Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew as a monkey to a human.“ TALMUD: Schene luchoth haberuth, p 250b.

“The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called PIGS.“ TALMUD: Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b.

“If you eat with a non-Jew it is the same as eating with a dog.“ TALMUD: Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b.

“If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, just as if one of his animals had died.“” TALMUD: Jore Dea 377.

“Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals.“ TALMUD: Sanhedrin 74b.

“IT IS PERMITTED TO TAKE THE BODY AND LIFE OF A GENTILE.“ TALMUD: Sepher Ikkarim III c 25.

“It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.“ TALMUD: Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425.

“A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.“ TALMUD: Abodah Zara, 4b.

“Every Jew who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to Go.“ TALMUD: Bammidber raba c 21 & jalkut 772.

This is all from: http://www.jews-for-allah.org

Leaving aside the little minor detail that I don’t see any of the above mentioned on that website, and the little minor detail that many of those “quotations” don’t even exist in the Talmud (don’t take my word for it, go look for yourself). . .all of those quotations actually argue against what you’re saying.

Quote from the Jewish site:
“Consistently, almost every single Jew privately agrees that the “peace” process is moving far too quickly and is presenting a genuine and growing danger to the lives of all Israelis…

Which means. . .that somebody thinks that most Jews are worried that what seems like a fast-track to peace might not really be such a thing.  So you object to the idea that Israelis like the idea of peace?

The world has reached its ultimate point of decision, and the power to succeed belongs entirely to the Jewish people. We can wait until Moshiach comes on his own, following a world war, or we can bring him through our own actions, as the Lubavitcher Rebbe has stated is our mission. The choice is ours.“

Oh no!  A group of people want to live without a “genuine and growing danger” to their lives.  They must be evil!

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 126 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-third post, comment no. 201:

Madmouse -

WayToGo -
P.S. Thanks for your advertisement that http://www.ufocasebook.com/ is controlled by your kind of species.

My kind of species? What, people who know how to use Google?

Well, what makes you think that this is about Google and not about banning for telling truth?

Because Madmouse hadn’t banned you.  The only action she’d done involving that website was to look it up on Google.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.“
—Dresden James

Which doesn’t mean that everybody who seems an utterly preposterous raving lunatic is really telling the truth.  You need to look at actual evidence and judge for yourself to determine where the truth is.

Of course, WayToGo is against the idea of asking him questions or providing evidence. . .

Do you believe that generation to generation the media sells the public what I am talking about, or it sells lies about the Bible, WW I and II, 9/11, Iraqi WMDs, ...?

I thought that this wasn’t about belief?  There you go again, contradicting yourself.

And what’s with the “or” in your comment?  I thought that lies about those things are what you were talking about?  What are you talking about, then, if not that?

Media is owned by who? Maybe by Jews/Masons?

Some of it, no doubt.  And by Muslims, and by Boy Scouts, and by VFW members. . .so what?

If you do not know… who’s brainwashing who - watch Orwell Rolls in His Grave

You were asking us, remember. . .

And do you know exactly who owns every media outlet?  If so, why don’t you tell us and show us how they fit into your conspiracy ideas?  And if you don’t. . .then what are you talking about?

Maybe there are lots of thing to hide from the public, like:

Karl Marx (his real name is Moses Levy)

No, his real name was Karl Marx.  As has already been pointed out.

was a Freemason - a member of a satanic cult.

Can you tell us how you know that he was a Freemason, or how you know that Freemasonry is a Satanic cult?

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were financially supported by the main maker of ALL revolutions and wars for the past two centuries - a Jewish family of Rothschild’s.

And you know this how?  Why do you hide the truth from us, if that is what this is?

E.g. Rothschild’s money and power were used to foment the bloody U.S. Civil War, 1860-1865 (Note: WW II was organized/financed by many Jews not only Rothschild’s but Rothschild’s were the key-figures).

Again, absolutely nothing backing up your claims.  You just want us to believe you. . .though you claim that you don’t want us to just believe you.

Other Jews: Jews: Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, ...

Famous anti-Semites were/are also Jews: Stalin, Brezhnev; Andropov (Lieberman), Khrushchev (Perlmutter), Gromyko (Katz), Primakov (Finkelstein), Gorbachev (Kahn), Putin is a crypto Jew (Radoshkovich), etc.

And more of the same:  you insisting on blind belief.

Actually anti-Semitism is an invention of elite Jews and Masons who use it as excuse to get financial and political benefits for the expense of their lowest members.

Riiiiight.  Only Jews and Masons have ever been anti-Semitic.

In other words, elite Jews and Mason intentionally sacrificed low cast of Jews to gain money and power over the World on their deaths.

Yet more of you demanding belief without us thinking at all.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 127 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-fourth post, comment no. 206:

Boo -

WayToGo -
YOU agreed with, but you wrote that it’s OK if a Jew/Mason will steal someone’s work, because stealing is good if a thief is a Jew or Mason.

No he didn’t. Please quote where he said this.

It’s here:

David B. -
Einstein used the work of others…

So in WayToGoese, “use” means “steal”.  That’s an interesting thing.  So when WayToGo “uses” other peoples’ information to create his theories. . .hmm. . .

Thief!  Thief!

It’s a lie - others referred to the original author, but Einstein NEVER referred to the original authors.

I already listed elsewhere all sorts of places where he refers to original authors.

It means that he stole all the formulas/discoveries/etc. from others. I mean - by the law this is stealing and it means that “David B.“ indirectly stated that Jews can steal everything because they can.

No, it doesn’t.  That’s just what you claim it does.  Since that’s not what David B. said or meant, though, that means that in the real world you’re wrong.

David B. -
Lorenz’s formulae naturally gives rise to Einstein’s famous equation but Einstein described what E=mc² meant, i.e. he had a theory where others had none.

This is another lie.

E = mc2 is Not Einstein’s Discovery
http://www.serve.com/herrmann/ein.htm

Albert Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist
http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/emc2.htm

I won’t quote the rest of his lies because he did not compare side by side what wrote Henri Poincare and Albert Einstein. If he would do it - he would not post such BS.

All that (such as Einstein unraveling knots in Poincaré‘s theories that had Poincaré stumped) has been covered already.  Just because WayToGo likes to ignore such things doesn’t make them go away.

It means that he is a dilettante who defends rights of Jews to steal any work of humans they want.

No, actually it doesn’t.

P.S. I asked everybody to check what I wrote, but it looks like understanding of anything beyond 2 x 2 it a very hard job for the “chosen” race.

Then why haven’t you been able to point out where anything we’ve written is wrong?

Boo -
Presumably you’re going to quote where he said that he’s a Jew/Mason?

If you would not have problems with your memory, you’d remember what I wrote - NORMAL human won’t attack me because EVERYTHING what was written is based on facts/logic/common sense.

Most of your facts are wrong, and the rest have no visible connection to what you’re talking about.  Common sense would indicate that two absolutely self-contradicting statements indicate that there is a problem, yet you deny that.  You do indeed use logic, but it is full of flaws and logic doesn’t really prove anything, anyway.

Before any conclusion - a NORMAL human will investigate the claims IMPARTIALLY.

Perhaps if you’d actually back up your claims, then people could investigate them.

The ONLY logical reason not do do it if an attacker is a Jew or a Mason. Do you have other explanations?

Well, if no evidence was ever given to be investigated in the first place, that would make it all rather difficult. . .

If the only purpose of the RACE is extermination of mankind and they believe they (Jews/Masons) are not humans - it automatically turns them into non-humanoid species. Or this is beyond your mental capabilities?

Apparently it’s far beyond your capabilities to provide any evidence for, other than your own claims that it is so.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 128 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-fifth post, comment no. 209:

Madmouse -

WayToGo -

Madmouse -

WayToGo -
P.S. Thanks for your advertisement that http://www.ufocasebook.com/ is controlled by your kind of species.

My kind of species? What, people who know how to use Google?

Well, what makes you think that this is about Google and not about banning for telling truth?

Because I found your posts there by Googling ‘WayToGo’ and ‘conspiracy’ rather than being sent there by Jews, Masons or aliens.

Did I talk about ETs or Jews/Masons that the first thought that came into your mind - I meant in this thread that non-humanoid race is ET?

Now WayToGo is trying to pretend that all the stuff he wrote in the other Forum doesn’t really exist.  He’s good at doing that sort of thing, I’ve noticed.

Madmouse -
hu·man·oid /?hyum??n??d or, often, ?yu-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hyoo-muh-noid or, often, yoo-] –adjective 1. having human characteristics or form; resembling human beings.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humanoid

Not that I believe anything you say anyway, but those ‘quotes’ you included make a case for Jews being human, and non-Jews having only the superficial form of human. How does that make any sort of proof of Jews being ‘non-humanoid?

One of the criteria - by their deeds. (read all my post for the details).

That has absolutely nothing to do with what Madmouse was talking about.

Other criteria will be send later if I won’t be banned, of course.

Again, WayToGo claims to have evidence. . .and again says that he’ll present it “later”.  Why does he never actually present it?  For five days we asked him and asked him and asked him to provide the evidence that he claimed he was there to tell the world.  And he never did it.

Why it so hard to understand that behind of what I wrote stands a huge base of facts, valid arguments, ... (hunders volumes of pure scientific work with involvement of astronomy, physics, mathematics, genetics, biology, physiology, ...?

Because you refuse to give any reference to any of it.

Looks like no one of my critics is able to check what I wrote before their baseless criticism.

So, apparently five days and a dozen pages worth of discussing what he wrote isn’t enough for him to notice.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 129 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-sixth post, comment no. 212:

Madmouse -

WayToGo -
I mean - by the law this is stealing and it means that “David B.“ indirectly stated that Jews can steal everything because they can.

No, this doesn’t mean that he said or thinks that. That is your own twisted inferences.

Thinking requires an IMPARTIAL analyzing, but when a person INTENTIONALLY deny it - there is a reason.

So, what is your reason for intentionally denying the existence of all the times when we asked you about apparent factual errors in your comments, for intentionally denying the existence of all the times when we asked you about various apparent contradictions in your claims, for intentionally denying the existence of information that we provided you when you wanted it?

It LOGICALLY means that what I wrote about “David B” is correct and you were wrong.

Which goes to show how logic doesn’t always bring you to the truth, and why logic thus isn’t enough to prove anything.

Madmouse -
Apparently understanding the definition of ‘humanoid’ is beyond your mental capabilities.
By the way, did you read the warning I posted?

What did you do to yourself that you saw that I am discussing the word ‘humanoid’?

Apparently WayToGo didn’t notice himself constantly writing about “non-humanoids”.  That really makes me believe him, yup.

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 130 ]
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WayToGo’s twenty-seventh and final post, comment no. 213:

Boo -
Well, aliens were mentioned because of your posts involving aliens in other forums.
We do check - we’re used to people coming here and espousing nonsense.

So you do believe this is exactly that ‘another forum’. Did you check your vision?

I’m not sure what he’s going on about here.  Apparently WayToGo was upset that Madmouse found some more of his claims on another Forum, and was trying to pretend that the claims he made there didn’t really exist.  And this is the person who expects us to believe him at his word (oh, only we’re supposed to believe him without believing him).

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the complete words and wisdom of WayToGo.  Unsupported claims.  Factual errors.  Facts that have nothing to do with his claims.  Vague ramblings.  Self-contradictions.  Evasions and insults.  Outright falsification.  These are the heart of WayToGo’s claims, it seems.

For some reason, he hasn’t converted me to his cause. . .

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Posted: 14 December 2007 03:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 131 ]
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So, WayToGo/ABC311/Major Li. . .are you going to come back and claim yet again that we never looked at your points?

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Posted: 17 December 2007 11:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 132 ]
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Robin Bobcat - 14 December 2007 02:31 AM

true.. But if we just ignore him, he’ll keep on ranting, and saying all sorts of crap. If we just ban him for his views, he gets to have a martyr complex and takes that as ‘proof’ the world is against him.However, if we sit down and issue forth well-reasoned, logical debate.. He’s revealed as having not a single bit of evidence to back up his complains. When confronted like that, as we have seen, such people tend to shrivel and back out of the room mumbling about dental appointments.

It’s been another three days - I think he had some serious dental issues.

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