ABC311-

Consider this your second warning from me.

All through this conversation you (oh, sorry - and WayToGo) have made senseless accusation.  Not just against the members here, but your whole conspiracy theory in general has no proof and support that has been provided.  This request has been ignored and brushed off every time someone here has requested it.

If you can not offer any proof or documentation there is no reason to continue this thread and this conversation.  You have made your points as far as you can and without offering something more solid than crazy ideas and conspiracy theories you continuing to ask for proof against your vague, senseless statements will not go any further.

Failure to offer proof within the next 12 (twelve) hours will result in this thread being closed and locked.  If you start another thread without offering any definitive proof of your conspiracy theories it will be closed and locked.  If you continue to open discussion threads without offering definitive proof you will be banned.

And if you don’t start acting a little more civil and stop with the degrading comments and name calling you will be banned.  (If Boo has not already done so after your last post.)

And for anyone else who would like to show up here and continue this conversation on WayToGo’s (or ABC311’s) behalf, consider this your first and only warning.  Continue the conversation in a civil manner without resorting to name calling.  Offer definitive proof of your thoughts and conspiracy theories.  If you do not the conversation will be closed and persistence in continued actions against this warning will result in a banning.

ABC311 - 06 December 2007 12:34 AM

Tah wrote: “Where and when?  Give us a source, please.“

If I will give you - would you admit that you are living in jungles and do not now what the Internet search is and do not have skills to be a moderator and judge anything? Don’t worry - I have what you asked for - just answer the question (if you are capable to do it, of course - just let me know ...).

No.  I will probably faint becaue you actually offered proof when asked for it.

My ability to Google something is just fine.  How do you know I haven’t already looked for it?  The point is that this is a statement you made.  If you want people who may not know it other than from a vague rumor to know the truth of it it is up to you to provide the source of your information.

Especially when asked to do so.  And, since the request was made politely, a polite response is in order, too.  Please see my previous post.  (It’s in red in case you missed it.)

Did you notice that you also did not provided the source of your truth and according to the task it means you are ..(who?). Do you remember or you can read it?

And what truth did I offer in my post that I did not provide a source for?  The only statements that may need a source are self-referential to this thread.  I’m not going to start a circular loop of linking back to the thread when the post is part of that thread.  Especially when the entire thread is the source and not just one or two posts from it.

If there is something else from my post that confuses you and you would like a source linked just ask me.  Politely.  And I will find it for you.

And it looks like ABC311 has left the forum.

Regardless, the 12-hour time limit for offering proof and continuing this conversation in a civil manner and without name calling still stands.

Awww…. I wanted to call him (oh, sorry - and WayToGo) a big poopyhead! *sulks*

I still wanna know where my government paycheck is. If I gotta deal with drivel like his (oh, sorry - and WayToGo’s), I’m demanding hazard pay from my non-humanoid JewMason overlords.

Heh, if Tah’s owed 16 months back-pay, I’m owed three years worth…

ABC311 - 05 December 2007 11:44 PM

The government openly announced that it monitors all forums to fight with posters it doesn’t like.

Thus guys, you proved (by senseless replies) that you are or cretins or paid agents hired by government for senseless spamming of the truth that government doesn’t want people to know.

WayToGo asked you to check what he wrote. Did any of you do it? No one! Why? Is it because your brains do not work well or because you do know that you are unable to win because the truth in not on your side?

For example, can you tell me who is telling truth? G.W. Bush? His makers? The media? ...? You did not provide your source of truth. It means that you have ZERO substantiation for your statements, in contrary to WayToGo who has enough valid arguments = you, critics of WayToGo, lost the battle = you are the losers.

Judge yourself:
You have no clue what is this truth, but you are sure that WayToGo is lying while you have no reasons for this claim. That proves the status your mental condition - fanatics. That’s who you are according to your posts.

How much the government pays you for this job?

If your paid Co won’t provide the source of your truth and will talk about anything but won’t give the answer about where is your source of truth - it will mean that you agreed that you are puddles who were hired for senseless barking on anyone who is showing the true face of your evil master.

As you see - this cannot be qualify as a personal attack - that’s a truthful description of your deeds. In contrary - your assault on WayToGo without any substantiation is a personal attack with intentionally made false claims against WayToGo and you should be banned according to the rules of this forum ... I doubt it will happen because your kind eliminated Justice long time ago.

Yes, I’m a British Intelligence agent.

I’ve also amounted to more than you ever will in this job. Well paid, nice flat, well educated. All I have to do is make fun of you and I get PAID for it! It’s amazing. What do you do for a job?

ABC311 - 05 December 2007 11:44 PM

The government openly announced that it monitors all forums to fight with posters it doesn’t like.

Thus guys, you proved (by senseless replies) that you are or cretins or paid agents hired by government for senseless spamming of the truth that government doesn’t want people to know.

Or, with equal reason on our side we can claim that you are really a paid agent here to fight with posters your masters don’t like.

WayToGo asked you to check what he wrote. Did any of you do it? No one!

Ummmm. . .apparently you missed all the posts where we discussed what he wrote, discussed the information in the links that he provided, discussed the background of the events he mentioned, and all that sort of thing.

A word of advice:  try reading what people say before you start talking about what the people said.

Why? Is it because your brains do not work well or because you do know that you are unable to win because the truth in not on your side?

Since that is all based on a false premise, it’s all totally meaningless.  Sorry to ruin your fun.

For example, can you tell me who is telling truth? G.W. Bush? His makers? The media? ...? You did not provide your source of truth. It means that you have ZERO substantiation for your statements,

What statements?  I asked questions of both you and WayToGo.  You don’t need proof to ask questions; questions are to find proof.  Neither of you has bothered to answer questions, though.

What statements I did make (which were generally on historical matters, such as the bombs dropped on Dresden or ancient number systems) I did provide sources for.

in contrary to WayToGo who has enough valid arguments = you, critics of WayToGo, lost the battle = you are the losers.

How can he have brought valid arguments when he hasn’t really brought any arguments?  All he has is vague claims.

Judge yourself:
You have no clue what is this truth,

Because you don’t provide any answers as to what this truth consists of.

but you are sure that WayToGo is lying while you have no reasons for this claim.

I never said that he was lying about his overall claims.  I said that he hadn’t offered any information on them.  If he doesn’t provide any information, then there’s no way for us to tell what his claims really are about.  Which means we can’t tell if he’s lying.

We have found a number of his remarks to be self-contradicting, though, which shows a serious problem regarding those remarks.  We’ve also found a few individual comments of his and some bits of information that he’s provided to be wrong.

We haven’t found anything he’s said to be true, however, because he simply wouldn’t tell us anything about his claims.

That proves the status your mental condition - fanatics. That’s who you are according to your posts.

No, that’s who we are according to you.  Who, as pointed out above, hasn’t even read our posts.

How much the government pays you for this job?

And that’s what is known as “making up things”.

If your paid Co won’t provide the source of your truth

What truth?  We’re not the ones claiming to have some great truth.  We’re the ones asking you and WayToGo what your truth is.  And you’re not answering.

You seem to be stuck in some sort of idea that we came here proposing some great claim, and that you’re asking questions about it.  Look back over the previous pages.  You have everything backwards.  WayToGo appears on this Forum claiming to know of a great conspiracy and to have 100% certain evidence of it.  What follows is page after page of us asking him for this evidence, and him refusing to provide any.  And you doing the same.  So all your claims about what making great claims to some truth and not providing any sources means about people actually reflect on you.  You might want to think about that next time you start making insulting remarks about such people:  the only person you’re insulting and accusing is yourself.

and will talk about anything but won’t give the answer about where is your source of truth - it will mean that you agreed that you are puddles who were hired for senseless barking on anyone who is showing the true face of your evil master.

Interesting you should make that claim.  Since you and WayToGo (not us) are the ones here claiming to have some great Truth, but are talking about everything else but that Truth and are refusing to give any information about that Truth, then that means. . .hmmm. . .interesting. . .

As you see - this cannot be qualify as a personal attack -

Actually, yes it is.  You’re ignoring the matter of this great Truth you and WayToGo claim to have and instead making personal accusations towards the people here.  That’s pretty much the definition of a personal attack.

that’s a truthful description of your deeds.

No, it’s not.  As has already been pointed out.  Unless you define “truthful” as saying that we never did what we did, and saying that we did what we didn’t do.  In which case, you must have a most interesting definition of “truth”.  Which I suppose would explain a lot in your previous comments about it.

In contrary - your assault on WayToGo without any substantiation

We asked him questions.  How do you ask questions with substantiation?  Questions are intended to find substantiation.  You seem to be unable to grasp that basic point.

is a personal attack with intentionally made false claims against WayToGo

What false claims did I make?  Point them out.

ABC311 - 06 December 2007 12:25 AM

To Boo:

According to logic - if you have ZERO substantiation/base to judge people but you judge -

She’s a moderator on this site.  It’s her job and her responsibility to judge things here.

First - the government indeed hired agents to supervised forums (need a proof or you read the news?)

This is the second time you mention this, and here you offer to provide proof. . .but you don’t provide it.

Second - fact that you are judging people without any logical reason means or you are too stupid, or you have no education, or you hate people, or ... the only option is left - you are an agent. What is your choice? Or you have other explanation for your behaviors? Please share…

Ah, but we do have a logical reason.  The reason being that we have tried to have a conversation with WayToGo and with you to find out what you are talking about, and you refused.

Did you notice that you did not provided the the source of your truth

You’re getting things backwards again.  WayToGo appeared here and he claimed to have a truth.  All we did was ask him what his truth was, and he refused to elaborate on it or to provide the source (he actually came right out and said that he refused to provide the source, remember?).

and according to the task it means you are ..(who?). Do you remember or you can read it?

So, since it is you and WayToGo who are claiming to have a truth and refusing to provide the source of it, that means that this question actually applies to you.  Can you answer it?  Or are you going to continue not answering our questions?

ABC311 - 06 December 2007 12:34 AM

Tah wrote: “Where and when?  Give us a source, please.“

If I will give you - would you admit that you are living in jungles and do not now what the Internet search is and do not have skills to be a moderator and judge anything? Don’t worry - I have what you asked for - just answer the question (if you are capable to do it, of course - just let me know ...).

And after being asked yet again to provide some evidence, you refuse to provide it.  And you claim that we are the ones who refuse to provide any evidence, even though you’re the one making claims and we’re just trying to ask you questions.

Did you notice that you also did not provided the source of your truth and according to the task it means you are ..(who?). Do you remember or you can read it?

The irony here is simply overwhelming.  You writing the above two sentences after blatantly refusing yet again to provide any source of your truth.

All right.  It’s been a little over 12 hours now and no proof of this theory has been brought forth from ABC311.  Therefore this discussion is now closed as per my warning and statement above.  (Scroll back up the page.  It’s my post that is completely in red.  Kind of hard to miss.)

This thread will, of course, remain in existence.  We want everyone to be able to see the “truth” of WayToGo and ABC311 so they can judge for themselves if they want to believe it.

Further discussions of this matter (in any new threads opened or highjacking any other threads) will be closed if no proof of this conspiracy theory of WayToGo’s is offered.  Blind accusations and statements without anything other than the author’s word to back it up will not suffice.

Thank you all for your cooperation in this matter.