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Can pigs be used to discourage Terrorists’?????
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Posted By:
X
in McKinney, TX
Jul 07, 2005
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From Snopes
Claim: General John J. Pershing effectively discouraged Muslim terrorists in the Philippines by killing them and burying their bodies with pigs.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm
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DFStuckey
in Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 02:23 AM
I'm thinking that this whole story is based on the real-life cause of the Sepoy mutiny, when the native troops in India turned upon the British colonials; Much of their resentment was limited until someone started a rumour that the lubricant on the cartridges their British-issued rifles fired was a mixture of pork and beef fat - Which offended the dietary strictures of both Muslims and Sikhs respectively, as one had to bite the end off the wrapper of a cartridge before loading it. Actually, the lubricant was a primitive form of Petroleum jelly.
Nevertheless, it still led to some pretty nasty massacres. |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 03:51 AM
Hmm, I was going to mention that, but I couldn't remember the name. The British and the Muslim's didn't get along well at that time, and in fact the British had special pointed Gatling gun bullets for Turks, as opposed to the smooth bullets they used for Christians. Just a random fact I thought I'd mention so I look smart. |
stork in the distinct absense of Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 08:05 PM
Not to get too far off subject; but, when my unit was leaving S.A. three months after Desert Storm, it fell upon me to distribute about 14,000 cases of Army MRE's to the local populace(cost ineffective to ship back to the U.S.). We chose to give them to the local trash collectors in the compund across the street from our firebase, as they had helped us a lot with our rubbish for 4 months. The compound was filled with Muslims and Hindus. I was chosen for this honor, as I spoke a little German, which some of them did, also. It was quite an interesting briefing that I held for their leaders, explaining exactly which MRE packages (labeled in English, which none of them could read) contained beef, forbidden for Hindus, and which contained pork, forbidden for Muslims. In the end, I think they were just grateful for the effort. Who knows what happened to those 28 pallets of MRE's? |
stork, again
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 08:11 PM
Sorry, that was 4,000 cases on 28 pallets, not 14,000. Still, a *lot* of food. |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 08:29 PM
What about the Mundus and Hislims? Did they just have to starve to death? |
DFStuckey
in Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 | 02:59 AM
A nice attempt, Citizen Premier, but it has the reverse effect. The square bullets for Turks was not a British deal, but an Italian one, on orders from the Pope. And it was the aerlier Mittraluese not the Gatling.
Similar to the earlier Papal decree that triangular-aspect crossbow bolts or quarrels were so damaging they could not be used against human targets, only animals and Muslims. |
DFStuckey
in Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 | 03:01 AM
I think starving might be preferable to eating MREs in the long run.
Besides, aren't they contaminated with GE corn like the food aid Mugabe rejected?  |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 | 06:45 AM
I dunno, I always sort of liked MREs. When they started putting Tobasco sauce in 'em it made them great. You could barely taste it after that!! My mom used to get them for me to go camping on...
Anywho, in case anyways missed it...I was JOKING in my own earlier post. Sheesh.  |
Wulf
in in the insurgents worst nightmares
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 | 12:39 AM
I had over 200 Iraqi's on my base in FWD Iraq. There were sunni's and shiite both working there. After one of the busloads was stopped en route to the base by insurgents and those aboard were slaughtered- We made an encampment (apart from our own) for the workers.
Early on we had only MRE's at times and believe me- Most of them wanted nothing to do with them for fear of eating pork.
I will tell you- It may not be the answer to all of this - but it is a deterrent- It would put a psychological spin in their heads.
I say if someone is a terrorist- there is no amount of mercy required. When you begin to think of mercy- recall your fallen comrads, brothers, fathers, innocents on either side. Recall the IED that sent piece of your vehicle (or worse) flying.
I say we wrap em all in bacon, put pigs blood in the tigris and euphrates river. Wipe out anyone even willing to harbor these cowards.
**oh- and the 71 virgins- well, they are all male goats waiting in hell for these scumbags.
WULF- Out
ps. Hey DFStuckey- U guys have some brave kiwi soldiers I've met from over there- thanks |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 | 02:05 AM
Wulf said:
"I say if someone is a terrorist- there is no amount of mercy required. When you begin to think of mercy- recall your fallen comrads, brothers, fathers, innocents on either side. Recall the IED that sent piece of your vehicle (or worse) flying."
I certainly can understand how you feel about your fallen comrades, but are you talking about vengeance against ALL Iraqis, regardless of whether they are actually terrorists, on the grounds that since they are Iraqis, they COULD be terrorists and therefore, "Kill 'em all. Let God sort 'em out"?
THAT I would have to strongly disagree with, to say the least.
"I say we wrap em all in bacon, put pigs blood in the tigris and euphrates river."
Yes, that is obviously exaggeration, but it does suggest, at least to me, that you ARE talking about fucking over ALL Iraqis because SOME of them are terrorists. That's simple-minded thinking. |
oyna
in newyork
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 | 02:59 AM
it works and saves lives then I don't see a problem with it. It's not as if a terrorist gives a rat's ass about their victims |
oyunlar
in york
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 | 01:41 PM
On the other hand, if this is true then so what? If it works and saves lives then I don't see a problem with it. It's not as if a terrorist gives a rat's ass about their victims, so why should they be shown the same courtesy? They were going to be executed anyway so if a few pigs saved them from having to execute others it was worth it. Assuming, of course, that any of it really happened the way it's been stated. |
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