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Could a Little Boy Be Proof of Reincarnation?
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Posted By:
X
in McKinney, TX
Jul 01, 2005
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I watched this on Prime Time Live last night and it was pretty facinating.
This little boy has his parents, and the realatives and friends of a dead WWII pilot convinced the boy is a reincarnated version of that fighter pilot.
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Technology/story?id=894217&page=1
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Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 02:55 AM
Citizen Premier said:
"Analogy theif!"
Bad speller! Nyah nyah. |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 03:45 AM
DFStuckey, are you saying that "reverse memory" is any less of ridiculous gobbldygook than "remote viewing" is? |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 09:23 AM
UPDATE!!!!: JamieBlonde, I will continue to delete all replies that seem to insult members and admin of the forum and replies that seem to be ramble, in ANY topic in the MOH that I come across. As most know in here, I have no problem doing this. |
entropy
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 11:19 AM
This post has been deleted.
UPDATE by Sir Stephen;
Jamie Blond feels that she can change screen name and post as another user. This can not be hidden from admin
and is frowned upon. |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 11:45 AM
jamieblonde, while normally I have no problem with people who diss Stephen, I feel that this is a special case.
Hiding behind a different username doesn't hide your IP. Citizen and Cranky have been mostly on-topic. You have been the one avoiding posting on topic, or even posting a point. Even when you're posting as entropy you can't stop rambling.
I also removed your identical posting in the other thread as it was a) redundant, and b) off-topic. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 11:57 AM
Thanks Chary......Im deleting the above comment from her. And Jamie, Im not here to play your little head games, so don't expect me too. |
Accipiter
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 05:06 PM
I neither believe nor disbelieve in reincarnation, since I don't see any way of unquestionably proving it one way or another. The only real way to prove it to myself is to die and see if anything happens, but I think I'll put off that experiment for a while longer.
However, even being open to the possibility of reincarnation doesn't mean that I have to accept as being true every claim of it having happened. I believe that most (if not all) such claims are false, being people looking for publicity or just being insane. In the case this topic is about, there are several things that I find to be rather suspicious:
1. It was after the parents began suggesting that their kid was remembering a past life that details of this life began coming out.
2. Carol Bowman has made a career out of supporting reincarnation, and so she can hardly be considered an unbiased party.
3. The "recollections" of the boy were only made public after the parents had done research into the life of that pilot who was killed. |
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 10:33 PM
Geesh... how many others are axiously awaiting the return of Alex??? |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 | 11:59 PM
The only real way to prove it to myself is to die and see if anything happens, but I think I'll put off that experiment for a while longer
The sad part of that is, if we really die in the absolute way that I think we do, we can never really varify it ourselves. Which also means jerkwad religious zealots will never know that they're wrong. The dead don't know they're dead! |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 | 01:40 PM
Oh Stephen, what would we do without you? |
DFStuckey
in Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 | 02:53 AM
Citizen Premier, while you may dismiss Reverse memory as gobbledegook, you must surely recognise two points.
One, it fulfils all the requirements for a testable hypothesis and such an experiment would give a conclusive result as to what mechanism is in operation.
Two, it satisfies Occam's Razor in that it assumes no mystical new power, but simple applications of known and observed physics; Namely, the fact that the brain would be communicating internally with itself, and that this communication would be unbound by positive entropy or time flow - Possible because many subatomic partilcles regularly reverse themselves in time as Quantum physics observes.
As has been said, common sense is a very poor guide to physics on the quantum level. But I applaud you for not raising the tired religious argument that it is "wrong" to end anoother humans life.  |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 | 07:10 AM
Acci, I also see your point, and the biggest thing that shouted "this is so fake," was when the parents said this is something they never would have expected. So, if it wasn't something they expected...why the hell would she have believed her mom when she suggested it??
My mom says weird stuff all the time. If I listened to all of it, I'd be a nut. |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 | 12:44 PM
DFTStuckey, you are right that we could produce a testable experiment for 'Reverse Memory.' However, everything I know about thought, memory and emotion suggests that 'Reverse Memory' does not exist; but if you can provide evidence via experiment I would consider it.
You know, I just realized that "experience" and "experiment" share the same root. In this case, my experiment is my experience. And, after thinking about these words for a while, they now look very weird to me. |
Snowy
in aeternum
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 | 04:51 PM
[off topic]
Myst said:
What the heck is a pinko?? LOL
it comes from the fact that, long ago, commies were associated with the color red.
so, liberals, who were suspected of being commies, were called pinkos.
get it now?
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DFStuckey
in Auckland New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 | 03:08 AM
Further to Snowy's comments. people of left-wing viewpoints but only on a superficial level were also reffered to as "Parlour Pinks", as they were only slightly Red in their own social circle.
Strangely enough, the colour red is now associated with having a right wing viewpoint, linked as it is to being caucasian and/or being so mentally dull as to work outside. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 | 02:36 AM
DFStuckey said:
"Strangely enough, the colour red is now associated with having a right wing viewpoint, linked as it is to being caucasian and/or being so mentally dull as to work outside."
I may be wrong, but I don't think that's the reason for Red being associated with Republicanism. I think it's because the TV news people started to use Red to mark states that voted for Republicans and Blue to mark those which went Democratic. Yes, I realize that you may have been sarcastic. I also realize we're WAY off-topic here. |
DFStuckey
in Auckaland New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 | 01:48 AM
Cranky Media Guy, have you never heard the term ( And I apologise for the use of the phrase, being as it is a racial epithet ) "Redneck"?
That was the phrase I was thinking of. And I was not being that sarcastic. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 | 07:05 AM
DFStuckey said:
"Cranky Media Guy, have you never heard the term ( And I apologise for the use of the phrase, being as it is a racial epithet ) "Redneck"?
"That was the phrase I was thinking of. And I was not being that sarcastic."
Sure, I've heard of "redneck." Is it really a racial ephithet, though?
I'm not convinced that that is where "red" as a reference to Republican states comes from. |
Just me
in in a house
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 | 08:28 PM
I just thought I would join this conversation. I believe in reincarnation. To me it makes sense to have multiple chances to get it right. My belief is that your past lifes will affect your future lives. The mistakes you made before will cause the problems that you need to overcome today. That being said, to really test for reincarnation would be very difficult. For the people who have tried to search for reincarnation have stated that most information comes from children before they turn five years old. Thus, how do you approach the subject with a less than five year old child? If you are sceptical of the ideal (even subconciously), then the child may read your expressions and hide the information. If you believe in the ideal, then you must still be able to separate the actual facts from the child's fantasy. When it comes to the story on ABC, I would like to ask this question of all: When do you think the parents should have contacted someone to investigate the situation? Also, if you bring someone in to investigate and this person makes the child feel like they are doing something wrong because of the things they remember, then don't you think they would hide the experiences to please the investigator? Thus, from what we know today, it is very hard to get good testimonals that would stand up to strong scrutiny. One suggest for a test is that maybe we should monitor a group of children, less than five years old, twenty four hours a day with a hidden camera and ask them. That maybe the only way to get good information. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 | 01:57 AM
Just me said:
"I just thought I would join this conversation. I believe in reincarnation. To me it makes sense to have multiple chances to get it right. My belief is that your past lifes will affect your future lives. The mistakes you made before will cause the problems that you need to overcome today."
No offense (honestly), J.M. but what you believe is not relevant. Things either are or they aren't regardless of our beliefs. To me, it makes sense that leprechauns would guard pots of gold at the end of rainbows but I've never been able to find one. Yes, that's a wee bit sarcastic but I think you get the point. There are a great many things I'd like to believe in, but unless I see actual evidence for them, I just regard them as nice fantasies.
Actually, this whole "I believe it so it must be so" frame of mind is my biggest disagreement with believers. I just don't think the universe works that way. Things either are or they aren't. Period. |
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